Stu Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 We've lost a lot of commercial revenue due to many local firms deciding not to sponsor the club in one form or another since Ashley took over, that and Sports Direct now dominates all advertising. As for attracting other sponsors and increasing commercial revenue, that isn't going to happen because who would want to be associated with Sports Direct? Companies will want to be associated with NUFC but the more SD adverts are plastered around the stadium and the whole stadium renaming crap, will only ever put would be sponsors off. Virgin Money was a no brainer. They are on an offensive charm having taken over Northern Rock, to continue sponsoring NUFC's shirt but under the new VM brand, was the logical thing to do. In no other circumstances would Virgin Money want to be associated with NUFC had it not taken over NR. The finances look healthy but more by default than by design. Carroll has basically brought things in line. And, we still owe one man over 130m. At no time in this club's history have we ever owed anyone or any entity so much money. Moot point really, we were owing the same amount to multiple parties and paying over 7m in interest annually. Now we owe Ashley and dont pay any interest, presumably. How is that a bad thing? Because when Ashley sells us this will be recouped, meaning that any interested party will have to pay up 130m before they even think of spending money on players He'll have recouped it long before he sells up at this rate. When we start posting £20m+ profit a season, he'll begin to pay it down in stages. How the f*** are we going to make £20m+ profit per season? That will never happen. Wheyyyy, working from the rough figures provided this week, increase revenue streams by £17m more than our costs increase whether it's through matchday, commercial or media (or a combination of all 3) Never gonna happen. Really? they'll use the amortisation to 'hide' the OP for as long as they can but we'll continue to post positive figures for the next 4-5 years barring any massive economic crashes on the horizon. By that point, if we're still doing well on the pitch, MA might even reconsider his current desire to pay down the loan. If he's enjoying it and not getting abuse then there's no reason why he might not leave it be and think of it as 6 seasons of the original "£20m per season funding" which he can still claim back in an emergency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hong Kong Phooey Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Reading the Accounts and we look (obviously if Ashley doesn't want his money back like) to be one of the most stable clubs in the league. Nearly £33m profit before tax - wow. Nearly £10m in the bank, no loans, not really high creditors. Looking in good shape to nick a couple of players from clubs in dire trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It's all set up for us to be one of the big forces in a few years time if we can keep that up, and continue to finish around the top 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Here is a brief summary of the published accounts, it is pretty much as reported in the press £millions Income Matchday 24 Media 49 Commercial 16 Total 89 Costs Wages 54 Amortisation17 Other costs 22 Total (93) Operating loss (4) Profit on transfers 37 Profit for the year 33 We are still technically insolvent. Ashley hasn't reduced his loan - however instead of having the £10 million overdraft we had last year, we now have £10 million cash in the bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 All this good news is a bit unnerving. I feel like i'll wake up tomorrow and read that he's renamed the club 'Mackem Utd ftm lol' and we'll be playing next season in the romanian 3rd division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Can anyone explain how the cash position in the directors report reconciles to that shown in the balance sheet and notes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 sorry if this has been asked before, but where would i be able to see the full accounts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Companies House Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Companies House cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Can anyone explain how the cash position in the directors report reconciles to that shown in the balance sheet and notes? Need more info on your question. Can you quote from both directors report and balance sheet/notes sources and explain the discrepancy between the two? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Need more info on your question. Can you quote from both directors report and balance sheet/notes sources and explain the discrepancy between the two? "As at June 2011 we had positive cash balances of £9.5m"- page 2, Financing Balance sheet- cash = nil Note 14, Bank overdraft £2.07m Unless they are being obtuse with their words and they are not in fact referring to a positive net cash balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Need more info on your question. Can you quote from both directors report and balance sheet/notes sources and explain the discrepancy between the two? "As at June 2011 we had positive cash balances of £9.5m"- page 2, Financing Balance sheet- cash = nil Note 14, Bank overdraft £2.07m Unless they are being obtuse with their words and they are not in fact referring to a positive net cash balance. Not sure you are looking at the group accounts. I can see the page 2 financing comment, but the balance sheet on page 8 clearly shows £9.5 million cash as stated in the Directors Report. And note 14 relates to provisions. This is in the accounts of company number 2529667 - Newcastle United Limited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 This is in the accounts of company number 2529667 - Newcastle United Limited. Aha. Yes I was looking at NUF Company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Can someone post the pdf version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Can someone post the pdf version? The copyrighted PDF version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 <--------------------- The amount received from SD for all of the advertising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Quelle surprise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Quelle surprise! Ashley did actually increase his loan by £200k for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 <--------------------- The amount received from SD for all of the advertising. Maybe he should pay a few Mill a year and but also maybe charge interest on his loans, fairs fair an all that, eh ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 PROFIT!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Been on companies house website and cant find where I have to search for them? Could someone point me in the right direction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 <--------------------- The amount received from SD for all of the advertising. Maybe he should pay a few Mill a year and but also maybe charge interest on his loans, fairs fair an all that, eh ?? Maybe he could have just not injected any more money and watched his initial investment go up in smoke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 <--------------------- The amount received from SD for all of the advertising. Maybe he should pay a few Mill a year and but also maybe charge interest on his loans, fairs fair an all that, eh ?? Maybe he could have just not injected any more money and watched his initial investment go up in smoke? No - that would have been counter-productive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Been on companies house website and cant find where I have to search for them? Could someone point me in the right direction? http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk Search for company number 00031014. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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