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What are people's order of priorities if this one falls through then?  Although Simpson's the weakest link in the first 11 I think I'd value more depth through the middle of the park than having right back as top priority.  Would be a bit disappointing to not strengthen at right back but we have Simpson/Perch/the Taylors/Santon/Jonas who can play there if required.  More concerned about lack of first team depth at centre half, up front and central midfield if I'm honest.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

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You'd think this was the first time this has ever happened the way some people are going on. :lol:

 

I think some have convinced themselves that EVERY transfer we complete these days comes 'out of the blue' when in reality that's only happened a few times. Therefore this kind of protracted affair seems bad, even though it's pretty normal for any transfer of a first teamer from a club that doesn't need to sell.

 

Aye exactly. For every out of the blue transfer like Cabaye & Cisse, there's a Ben Arfa & Debuchy. When a club doesn't need or want to sell it's harder. I think we'd be pretty pissed off if some club bid £15m for Cabaye and we just went, "oh, go on then".

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You'd think this was the first time this has ever happened the way some people are going on. :lol:

 

I think some have convinced themselves that EVERY transfer we complete these days comes 'out of the blue' when in reality that's only happened a few times. Therefore this kind of protracted affair seems bad, even though it's pretty normal for any transfer of a first teamer from a club that doesn't need to sell.

 

Aye exactly. For every out of the blue transfer like Cabaye & Cisse, there's a Ben Arfa & Debuchy. When a club doesn't need or want to sell it's harder. I think we'd be pretty p*ssed off if some club bid £15m for Cabaye and we just went, "oh, go on then".

 

Cabaye wasn't out of the blue.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be pissed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

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You'd think this was the first time this has ever happened the way some people are going on. :lol:

 

I think some have convinced themselves that EVERY transfer we complete these days comes 'out of the blue' when in reality that's only happened a few times. Therefore this kind of protracted affair seems bad, even though it's pretty normal for any transfer of a first teamer from a club that doesn't need to sell.

 

Aye exactly. For every out of the blue transfer like Cabaye & Cisse, there's a Ben Arfa & Debuchy. When a club doesn't need or want to sell it's harder. I think we'd be pretty p*ssed off if some club bid £15m for Cabaye and we just went, "oh, go on then".

 

Cabaye wasn't out of the blue.

 

There was nothing, then all of a sudden the local Lille press were saying Newcastle had met the release clause and was to sign after the few France friendlies they had.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

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You'd think this was the first time this has ever happened the way some people are going on. :lol:

 

I think some have convinced themselves that EVERY transfer we complete these days comes 'out of the blue' when in reality that's only happened a few times. Therefore this kind of protracted affair seems bad, even though it's pretty normal for any transfer of a first teamer from a club that doesn't need to sell.

 

Aye exactly. For every out of the blue transfer like Cabaye & Cisse, there's a Ben Arfa & Debuchy. When a club doesn't need or want to sell it's harder. I think we'd be pretty p*ssed off if some club bid £15m for Cabaye and we just went, "oh, go on then".

 

Cabaye wasn't out of the blue.

 

Such is life -  these deals happen to you and then don't happen to you and you may or may not get on the rewarding end of it. Of course we'd be p*ssed off, but if a player wants to go and and has no desire to play for us anymore then I'd rather we get rid asap and move on.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

 

That's a bit extreme tbh.we are only about 1-1.5 m off valuation. 8mill for Cisse is about 20mil off valuation.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

 

That's a bit extreme tbh.we are only about 1-1.5 m off valuation. 8mill for Cisse is about 20mil off valuation.

My point still stands.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

 

:lol: No, he'll slag Cisse and Barcelona off because he only cares about NUFC.

 

We all love NUFC mate, doesn't mean we've all got our heads up our arses.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

 

That's a bit extreme tbh.we are only about 1-1.5 m off valuation. 8mill for Cisse is about 20mil off valuation.

 

So why the commotion? We've made a bid including a clause probably to try and meet half-way, I'd be surprised if we don't make an improved bid.

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Lille chairman says it needs to take into account Mathieus feelings due to the service he has given and then shits all over him

 

Debuchy exclusive in Lequipe tomorrow

 

I hope he's kicking off big time

 

Would you be saying similar if Cabaye decided he was homesick and French clubs were trying to get him for what we paid Lille / a little bit more?

 

Any aggro towards the selling club is severely misplaced imo, frustrating as it is.

 

Only care about NUFC so yeah I'd probably be p*ssed.

 

They have every right to ask for whatever price they see fit, but I don't see MA going higher for a 27 yo using our policy, therefore stopping Mathieu fulfilling his dream

So if Barca want Cisse but only want to pay £8m for him you think we should sell because it's Cisse's dream to play for Barca?

 

:lol: No, he'll slag Cisse and Barcelona off because he only cares about NUFC.

 

We all love NUFC mate, doesn't mean we've all got our heads up our arses.

 

Just the 2 of us then?

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Be interesting to see what he has to say tomorrow.

 

I fully expect it to be the, "I'm a Lille player and will always give 100%" that you normally get a fortnight before they hand a transfer request in and leave.

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Dekka's just trying to make it easy to draft his post-window statement:

 

A statement from Newcastle United Managing Director Derek Llambias

 

Now that the transfer window has closed, we have had some time to reflect on the business we have conducted over the summer.

Our aim was to secure young players who represented value for money and could add real strength to the squad. The majority of our transfer dealings were completed in the early part of the window and we feel we have signed some players of exceptional quality. Yohan Cabaye, Sylvain Marveaux, Mehdi Abeid, Demba Ba and Gabriel ObertanRomain Amalfitano, Gael Bigirimana, and Curtis Good were all brought in early and we have seen these players settle quickly into the squad and perform well on the pitch.

 

Earlier this week we were delighted to sign Davide Santon from Inter Milan to fill our left-back position after the departure of Jose Enrique. Davide is an excellent young prospect and we're sure he'll be another superb addition to the squad. We also welcomed young goalkeeper Rob Elliot from Charlton Athletic who will help us retain healthy competition for that position after loaning out Fraser Forster to Celtic.[Reserve for last minute surprise signing of quality player, panic buy of mediocre player, or short-term signing of some old guy who just won't retire.]

 

Of course we had also hoped to secure a further right back and striker in the window, in addition to Demba Ba. Work to bring a right back and a striker into the club began early in the summer. Negotiations were complex and protracted and unfortunately it was disappointing that ultimately we could not secure our priority targets.

 

Whilst we did turn our attention to alternative prospects in the latter stages of the window, we have a very clear transfer policy and will not make knee-jerk decisions at the last-minute which are not in the best interests of the club. We understand that supporters will feel frustrated that we did not sign another right back or striker during the window, but it was not for lack of trying that we did not bring our final target in.

 

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Its hardly a coincidence that offers for Douglas, Debuchy and De Jong have all been described as derisory at one time or another.

 

Teams have pegged on to what we're trying to do, I.e, bring in quality players on the cheap and therefore to avoid being made a mug of are raising the price.... only in this instance the price they were holding out for was allegedly only about a million more, why not just pay the f***er, bring in a quality fullback and get 2-3 million for Simpson to make up for any extra paid.

 

I simply can't understand this, there's playing hardball and then there's just being plain naive and stupid.

 

Theres no way we can get a RB as good as Debuchy for under the 8 million euros they apparently want, therefore we will end up with Simpson IMO. And hes f***ing s***, don't care what any opta stat's or fanboys say.

 

Absolutely spot on.

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Not read the details of this but my initial and only real thought is that the offer's considerably too low. Not sure why they'd want to get rid for such a cheap price, considering he's seemingly a very good right back? I know full backs don't tend to go for massive prices but, what, £5m? Seems a fair bit short.

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Evra & Sagna both came from France with bigger reputations for around the £5-7m mark so I don't think we're that far off. I know that was 5 years back but transfer fees haven't changed that much.

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