Wullie Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Stewart Robson does have a chip on his shoulder, he really dislikes Pardew as a person but nobody can deny the accuracy of what he said back then. Ridiculously accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Spoke to Charlton fans recently when I went to see them play. "Pardew..hmm. No. Long ball. That's about it. Long ball." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Skip to 12:45. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Skip to 12:45. Fuck me, Pardew fan n.o 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Shaka almost sounds Welsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I reckon, and its only my own personal twist on things, that DL would be more than happy to keep Pardew but Ashley himself having invested all that money in January, will not be happy with how things have panned out since January, especially the embarrassing defeat to the mackems. A defeat that could yet well seal Pardew's fate. I could well imagine Ashley thinking we should be doing better with the players we have, while DL plays the stability card. Both are chancers, as is the manager of course, so it really is all up in the air so to speak as to what can, could and maybe even will happen once the season ends. My own personal belief is that Pardew will survive but his cards are marked and the first 10 or so games of next season will determine whether he stays or goes long-term. The investment in January was Ashley's showing his concern that we would be relegated and also showing his hand that for Pardew at least, there can now be no more excuses. We now have a very good squad compared to what we started this season with and should have kicked on massively January onwards but today we still stare relegation in the face. Llambias is the key man in all of this IMO. Especially for Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I reckon, and its only my own personal twist on things, that DL would be more than happy to keep Pardew but Ashley himself having invested all that money in January, will not be happy with how things have panned out since January, especially the embarrassing defeat to the mackems. A defeat that could yet well seal Pardew's fate. I could well imagine Ashley thinking we should be doing better with the players we have, while DL plays the stability card. Both are chancers, as is the manager of course, so it really is all up in the air so to speak as to what can, could and maybe even will happen once the season ends. My own personal belief is that Pardew will survive but his cards are marked and the first 10 or so games of next season will determine whether he stays or goes long-term. The investment in January was Ashley's showing his concern that we would be relegated and also showing his hand that for Pardew at least, there can now be no more excuses. We now have a very good squad compared to what we started this season with and should have kicked on massively January onwards but today we still stare relegation in the face. Llambias is the key man in all of this IMO. Especially for Pardew. That sounds like a pretty realistic scenario to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I reckon, and its only my own personal twist on things, that DL would be more than happy to keep Pardew but Ashley himself having invested all that money in January, will not be happy with how things have panned out since January, especially the embarrassing defeat to the mackems. A defeat that could yet well seal Pardew's fate. I could well imagine Ashley thinking we should be doing better with the players we have, while DL plays the stability card. Both are chancers, as is the manager of course, so it really is all up in the air so to speak as to what can, could and maybe even will happen once the season ends. My own personal belief is that Pardew will survive but his cards are marked and the first 10 or so games of next season will determine whether he stays or goes long-term. The investment in January was Ashley's showing his concern that we would be relegated and also showing his hand that for Pardew at least, there can now be no more excuses. We now have a very good squad compared to what we started this season with and should have kicked on massively January onwards but today we still stare relegation in the face. Llambias is the key man in all of this IMO. Especially for Pardew. One of the best posts in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It's better than sticking with what hasn't worked this season. Some fresh ideas wouldn't go amiss. People need to get out of this mentality that Pardew's on the cusp of being sacked IMO. It's like treating kidney failure by taking an ibuprofen. That doesn't mean I think he'll be sacked btw, I just think it's a case of fiddling while Rome burns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Llambias will do whatever his master wants him to do. If Ashley wants Pardew gone nothing Dekka says will matter a jot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I reckon, and its only my own personal twist on things, that DL would be more than happy to keep Pardew but Ashley himself having invested all that money in January, will not be happy with how things have panned out since January, especially the embarrassing defeat to the mackems. A defeat that could yet well seal Pardew's fate. I could well imagine Ashley thinking we should be doing better with the players we have, while DL plays the stability card. Both are chancers, as is the manager of course, so it really is all up in the air so to speak as to what can, could and maybe even will happen once the season ends. My own personal belief is that Pardew will survive but his cards are marked and the first 10 or so games of next season will determine whether he stays or goes long-term. The investment in January was Ashley's showing his concern that we would be relegated and also showing his hand that for Pardew at least, there can now be no more excuses. We now have a very good squad compared to what we started this season with and should have kicked on massively January onwards but today we still stare relegation in the face. Llambias is the key man in all of this IMO. Especially for Pardew. One of the best posts in here. Not having a go at either of you but it's just basically speculation based on a hunch. Not sure how anyone knows anything about the dynamic of the Ashley / Llambias relationship and therefore which one is a bigger Pardew fan than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 If they are thinking of giving him a limited number of games into next season then he's got to go at the end of this one. If we give him 10 games and decide to replace him we'll be looking for another Pardew or Souness to come in. We'll be looking for managers who are our of work or are about to get the sack. The best thing the club can do it get this season over and dump him and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Interesting that Hislop used a phrase there that quite a few of our players and coaching staff have used whilst he's been here - "hitting the front players early" He's a master of spin - it's just another way of saying Wimbledon circa 1992. There's still people on here who don't think he plays the long ball, that just boggles my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Not having a go at either of you but it's just basically speculation based on a hunch. Not sure how anyone knows anything about the dynamic of the Ashley / Llambias relationship and therefore which one is a bigger Pardew fan than the other. Pardew managed West Ham, Llambias had a box at West Ham, see a connection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Interesting that Hislop used a phrase there that quite a few of our players and coaching staff have used whilst he's been here - "hitting the front players early" He's a master of spin - it's just another way of saying Wimbledon circa 1992. There's still people on here who don't think he plays the long ball, that just boggles my mind. It's only because of Wilo and Simpson we play long balls man, remember? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It's only because of Wilo and Simpson we play long balls man, remember? I'm sure our results will pick up once we have replaced them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 If they are thinking of giving him a limited number of games into next season then he's got to go at the end of this one. If we give him 10 games and decide to replace him we'll be looking for another Pardew or Souness to come in. We'll be looking for managers who are our of work or are about to get the sack. The best thing the club can do it get this season over and dump him and move on. That's my view as well, I just don't think we can afford to sit on our hands and risk sabotaging another season. Players who are at important stages of their career don't have time to piss about while Pardew experiments with coaches, they will want to hit the ground running next season. I still think the next 4 games are massively important in Pardew's future. If we show some fight and cohesion he might get another crack. If we limp over the line and come close to getting relegated then he surely has to go. The fact we are still worrying about this with only 4 games left is a massive indictment in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm encouraged by the emergence of journalists doubting Pardew. I don't think he'll get sacked yet but.....it's a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I reckon, and its only my own personal twist on things, that DL would be more than happy to keep Pardew but Ashley himself having invested all that money in January, will not be happy with how things have panned out since January, especially the embarrassing defeat to the mackems. A defeat that could yet well seal Pardew's fate. I could well imagine Ashley thinking we should be doing better with the players we have, while DL plays the stability card. Both are chancers, as is the manager of course, so it really is all up in the air so to speak as to what can, could and maybe even will happen once the season ends. My own personal belief is that Pardew will survive but his cards are marked and the first 10 or so games of next season will determine whether he stays or goes long-term. The investment in January was Ashley's showing his concern that we would be relegated and also showing his hand that for Pardew at least, there can now be no more excuses. We now have a very good squad compared to what we started this season with and should have kicked on massively January onwards but today we still stare relegation in the face. Llambias is the key man in all of this IMO. Especially for Pardew. One of the best posts in here. Not having a go at either of you but it's just basically speculation based on a hunch. Not sure how anyone knows anything about the dynamic of the Ashley / Llambias relationship and therefore which one is a bigger Pardew fan than the other. I just can't see him being sacked once the season ends. DL for me has Ashley's ear if you like. I know for a fact he (DL) and Pardew socialise and are good friends. Ashley and DL are also friends but not in the same way Pardew and DL are from my own understanding. It was DL who suggested Pardew to Ashley who from everything I have heard about the man, is happy to let others he deems more knowledgeable about the game than he, make key decisions or at least have a major input. So long as he doesn't lose money. We are basically relying on DL seeing the light if you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That's my view as well, I just don't think we can afford to sit on our hands and risk sabotaging another season. Players who are at important stages of their career don't have time to p*ss about while Pardew experiments with coaches, they will want to hit the ground running next season. I still think the next 4 games are massively important in Pardew's future. If we show some fight and cohesion he might get another crack. If we limp over the line and come close to getting relegated then he surely has to go. The fact we are still worrying about this with only 4 games left is a massive indictment in itself. People who think Ashley will allow Pardew the opportunity to cost him £millions are living on another planet. He might personally like Pardew but I can't see him settling for us struggling above relegation when he has so much at stake financially. Ashley was quite happy to p*ss off the entire support base with his treatment of Keegan and he was happy to take the same risk with Shearer, Pardew would be much easier for him to bin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Interesting that Hislop used a phrase there that quite a few of our players and coaching staff have used whilst he's been here - "hitting the front players early" He's a master of spin - it's just another way of saying Wimbledon circa 1992. There's still people on here who don't think he plays the long ball, that just boggles my mind. !00%. Robson even says in that interview "conman" will tell you his team are playing great football when they aren't. I know we've got the benefit of hindsight, but it's insane how spot on his comments are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I just can't see him being sacked once the season ends. DL for me has Ashley's ear if you like. I know for a fact he (DL) and Pardew socialise and are good friends. Ashley and DL are also friends but not in the same way Pardew and DL are from my own understanding. It was DL who suggested Pardew to Ashley who from everything I have heard about the man, is happy to let others he deems more knowledgeable about the game than he, make key decisions or at least have a major input. So long as he doesn't lose money. We are basically relying on DL seeing the light if you like Ashley and Llambias are really close, you shouldn't doubt that and Llambias was the first choice as Chairman until the City of London Police turned up at the club and we ended up bringing in a lawyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I hate Stewart Robson and consider him a f*cking moron. However he nailed it in those comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It's just like Brummie with his MON comments. Managers don't change their ways - if they fail, they stubbornly try their methods somewhere else. Very few evolve but those that do become the best in the world. Pardew will never be that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That's my view as well, I just don't think we can afford to sit on our hands and risk sabotaging another season. Players who are at important stages of their career don't have time to p*ss about while Pardew experiments with coaches, they will want to hit the ground running next season. I still think the next 4 games are massively important in Pardew's future. If we show some fight and cohesion he might get another crack. If we limp over the line and come close to getting relegated then he surely has to go. The fact we are still worrying about this with only 4 games left is a massive indictment in itself. People who think Ashley will allow Pardew the opportunity to cost him £millions are living on another planet. He might personally like Pardew but I can't see him settling for us struggling above relegation when he has so much at stake financially. Ashley was quite happy to p*ss off the entire support base with his treatment of Keegan and he was happy to take the same risk with Shearer, Pardew would be much easier for him to bin. That's the one crumb of comfort that I hold onto. Ashley didn't even afford Alan Shearer, a man he deemed as someone worthy of employing to keep us up, the courtesy of a phone call never mind anything else, to say look Al, thanks for all your efforts, but we have different ideas. Shearer got fuck all And on that note... I cannot and never will accept Ashley and co as owner/custodians of our club. To treat someone like Alan Shearer with such contempt is deplorable. I cannot fucking wait for the day these cunts fuck off from our club. Because we will never ever get anywhere with them in control. I'd happily trade 10 years of Pardew if it meant Ashley and DL getting out of Toon if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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