NG32 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Pardew in the league - P16 W4 D5 L7 Kinnear in the league - P18 W4 D7 L7 Updated. I'd take 2 draws in the next 2 games Kinnear didn't have europe to jugular Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 FWIW Pardew taking off Ben Arfa for Shola is the moment he lost me altogether. That ranks as the most telling and downright worst substition I've seen. I don't want to watch what he clearly wants to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Back when Souness was in charge it was alleged that he didn't really believe in tactics other than selecting 11 "professionals" who would already know what to do. Whilst Pardew doesn't appear to be as unaware as Souness there do seem to be some similarities in how the team is set up to attack. What's the actual attacking philosophy? Carefully placed diagonal balls through the middle for Ba or Cisse to run on to? No. Classic wing play with wide players getting to the by-line before placing a carefully measured cross into the path of an oncoming forward? No. Our entire attacking strategy seems to consist of hitting the ball upfield in the hope that Ba or Cisse can make something out of nothing, or hope for a mistake from the opposition that will gift a chance to our front men. Failing that, give it to Ben Arfa and hope that he can conjure up something out of nothing. If that fails, bring on a couple of players who weren't considered good enough to start but otherwise just keep doing exactly the same shit that hasn't been working previously. What was the last goal we scored that wasn't due to individual brilliance or an opposition mistake? When was the last time a wide player realised that aerial balls into the box were being cleared with ease and switched to fire in a low ball across the face of goal? From the number of balls we win in the air, attacking and defending, it'd be hard to argue that we're anything other than crap in the air and yet 90% of our attacking play seems to consist of aerial balls aimed at the head of someone who is usually marked by someone taller and better in the air. When we do keep the ball on the ground there's a chronic lack of movement in the team. Forwards don't drop back to draw defenders out of position, midfielders don't move up to fill gaps when they do appear, passes are too often made behind players moving into space. Instead of passing into the space the player is going to be in, passes go to where the player was causing the attack to slow to a crawl and allowing defenders to get back into position. We give the ball to Jonas or Ben Arfa and half the time the rest of the team seem to stop, channelling the little kid from The Incredibles just watching and waiting for the hero to do something amazing. Unsurprisingly, the ball is usually lost leaving most of the team completely out of position allowing the opposition to counter-attack with ease. Whilst the players certainly aren't blameless in all of this, 9 out of the 11 who started tonight have full international caps. They haven't suddenly turned to shit, they just don't seem to have any idea how to play together as a team. There are too many teams in the Premiership who are doing a hell of a lot better than us this season by simply doing the basic stuff like passing and moving. That needs a lot of work on the training ground but I'm really not confident that our coaching team is even capable, especially since that's where our current "tactics" seem to have come from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Gutted. If we had an owner who actually cared about football he'd be gone now. Unfortunately we don't, Ashley looks for lackeys who work for him. Also, if we had a manager with an ounce of integrity, he might walk soon. Again, that's not Pardew, he also doesn't give a shit about the club or the fans. He was unemployable (for a normal chairman/owner). So chances are, we're stuck watching this shit until it's too late. Championship here we come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 People making up quotes makes me cringe to f***. They usually turn out to be true that's what makes me cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Everything about him makes me angry. The smug, cockney cuntish voice. The smug, cockney cuntish look. Can't even watch interviews with him anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 What would I not give to have Hughton back right now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I apparently drove past his house in Surrey on Friday night, should have shit on his doorstep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Jol absolutely rubbing it in. Newcastle have amazing players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 FWIW Pardew taking off Ben Arfa for Shola is the moment he lost me altogether. That ranks as the most telling and downright worst substition I've seen. I don't want to watch what he clearly wants to see. HBA substitution must have been decided before the game by the medical staff? AP isn't very good but hes not a total retard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I apparently drove past his house in Surrey on Friday night, should have s*** on his doorstep. Do you shit petrol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QPR game is decisive. Anything less than a win and he needs to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I apparently drove past his house in Surrey on Friday night, should have s*** on his doorstep. It's near Coulsdon, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QPR game is decisive. Anything less than a win and he needs to go. Remember Southampton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Jol absolutely rubbing it in. Newcastle have amazing players. Well I think wee know it's not the players that are failing us as much as the "manager". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I was around the Reigate area(ish), a mate who I work with always goes on about him living there and pointed the road out as we drove past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QPR game is decisive. Anything less than a win and he needs to go. Remember Southampton? I've blocked it out. Knew we'd lose that one but if we can't beat that shower at home then he's finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's one win in ten. It's dreadful and getting worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Aye i think that HBA/Shola sub has just about extinguished any faith i had left. Absolutely deplorable set of substitutions tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Aye i think that HBA/Shola sub has just about extinguished any faith i had left. Absolutely deplorable set of substitutions tonight. It was beyond stupid, you could see the way his mind was working. Just a good looking sam allerdyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 FWIW Pardew taking off Ben Arfa for Shola is the moment he lost me altogether. That ranks as the most telling and downright worst substition I've seen. I don't want to watch what he clearly wants to see. HBA substitution must have been decided before the game by the medical staff? AP isn't very good but hes not a total retard. Wasnt taking him off it was replacing him with Shola tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Should know when he has overstayed his welcome. Stay in London you cnut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 FWIW Pardew taking off Ben Arfa for Shola is the moment he lost me altogether. That ranks as the most telling and downright worst substition I've seen. I don't want to watch what he clearly wants to see. HBA substitution must have been decided before the game by the medical staff? AP isn't very good but hes not a total retard. If he isn't for that, then he is for selecting Shola as the replacement. It's inexcusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 How many times Pardew yailed at Ben Arfa to play more centrally ? It seems he was always trough the middle during the second half , am I the only one who noticed that ? For instance he never maded that much pass since he's in newcastle ( 42 ) in "only" 70 minutes , something for the future... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Too much silver, not enough fox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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