Mick Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I don't think those 3 always try and go for it tbh, if it's on then sure because sometimes it may well be on. I still think we'll see a marked improvement once we get Colo back and possibly Krul as well Krul will make no difference, Harper has done well with his distribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Martinez pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I don't think those 3 always try and go for it tbh, if it's on then sure because sometimes it may well be on. I still think we'll see a marked improvement once we get Colo back and possibly Krul as well Krul will make no difference, Harper has done well with his distribution. I think Krul was looking for the short pass a bit more often at the start of the season for me, but yeah fair enough Harper has been pretty good in the main with throwing it out etc I just can't see why Pardew would come out with this "control the midfield and you control the game" line, then instruct our players to kick it long. Seems completely mad to me, maybe it's down to players not offering enough movement in the middle of the pitch? Whenever Ben Arfa has the ball it seems as though everyone stops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 A big positive is that we're hard to beat but that only gets you so far, especially when Pardew is talking about a top 4 finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think Krul was looking for the short pass a bit more often at the start of the season for me, but yeah fair enough Harper has been pretty good in the main with throwing it out etc I just can't see why Pardew would come out with this "control the midfield and you control the game" line, then instruct our players to kick it long. Seems completely mad to me, maybe it's down to players not offering enough movement in the middle of the pitch? Whenever Ben Arfa has the ball it seems as though everyone stops I think a team is always a reflection of the manager, he dictates the play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Pardew probably loves the strikers we have right now....we are having one shot one kills atm, Ba now and Cisse late half last season. I think we can accommodate them both in the same team via 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 . We just need a system of passing with movement or more advance tactics. Its a team game after all, we will need to play as one. Got a sneaky feeling when Colo and Cabaye comes back all will be forgotten here. They are so important in papering over the cracks. (Mainly Possession) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Him and Artie are having a competition as to whom can produced the shittiest football. Such joy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think Krul was looking for the short pass a bit more often at the start of the season for me, but yeah fair enough Harper has been pretty good in the main with throwing it out etc I just can't see why Pardew would come out with this "control the midfield and you control the game" line, then instruct our players to kick it long. Seems completely mad to me, maybe it's down to players not offering enough movement in the middle of the pitch? Whenever Ben Arfa has the ball it seems as though everyone stops I think a team is always a reflection of the manager, he dictates the play. Agree, I'm just willing to give him a bit of time with this. He basically needs to stop being worried about what other teams can do and just focus on our strengths, which clearly isn't long ball. Having everybody fit is my hope to rectifying this, so basically if that fails then I'll be at a bit concerned long term about Pardew's ideologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We had everybody fit against Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 He basically needs to stop being worried about what other teams can do and just focus on our strengths, which clearly isn't long ball. Having everybody fit is my hope to rectifying this, so basically if that fails then I'll be at a bit concerned long term about Pardew's ideologies. The long ball shit is painful and I think it's principally down to him not wanting us to lose our shape. Pardew loves to keep things really regimented and long ball suits that, if we start moving it around a lot more in the middle, I imagine he'll view that as potentially way more dangerous were we to lose the ball than us losing the ball all the time with hoofing but keeping our shape. If that is the case, it's a fucking joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Interviewed on the BBC - was fair in his assessment I thought saying we lacked rhythm and basically got a lucky point. He seems to understand the problem, he doesn't seem to know what to do about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We had everybody fit against Villa Didn't have Tiote but that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. We are playing as a bunch of individuals and not as a team, we have no pattern of play, no sense of keeping the ball or holding it up. Really really disappointed so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 He basically needs to stop being worried about what other teams can do and just focus on our strengths, which clearly isn't long ball. Having everybody fit is my hope to rectifying this, so basically if that fails then I'll be at a bit concerned long term about Pardew's ideologies. The long ball shit is painful and I think it's principally down to him not wanting us to lose our shape. Pardew loves to keep things really regimented and long ball suits that, if we start moving it around a lot more in the middle, I imagine he'll view that as potentially way more dangerous were we to lose the ball than us losing the ball all the time with hoofing but keeping our shape. If that is the case, it's a fucking joke It is clearly the case. He doesn't like players being left out of position. Other than set pieces, you never see any of the midfield or back four taking a chance on anything and getting into the box. Watch a team like Everton or West Brom, not fantastic sides but set up to attack, their midfields at times are in packs in the opposition box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Aye, also the set penises are really fecking me off. Talk about lack of imagination and thought behind them. I mean at least try a short one or something different. Even a Sunday League team would come up with something else. Its now got to the point of embarrassment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Aye, 'control the midfield, control the game' sounds like 'save the cheerleader, save the world' to me, and the second season of Heroes was shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Aye, also the set penises are really fecking me off. Talk about lack of imagination and thought behind them. I mean at least try a short one or something different. Even a Sunday League team would come up with something else. Its now got to the point of embarrassment. Freudian slip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Aye, also the set penises are really fecking me off. Talk about lack of imagination and thought behind them. I mean at least try a short one or something different. Even a Sunday League team would come up with something else. Its now got to the point of embarrassment. Set penises! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Aye, also the set penises are really fecking me off. Talk about lack of imagination and thought behind them. I mean at least try a short one or something different. Even a Sunday League team would come up with something else. Its now got to the point of embarrassment. INB4Edit Mrs Bimpy no longer doing it for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Aye, 'control the midfield, control the game' sounds like 'save the cheerleader, save the world' to me, and the second season of Heroes was shit. Aye and i stuck with that until the end. Bollocks doing that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I meant it. Our set pieces are cockin shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Tbh i'm getting sick of Pardew and his "if you control the midfield, you control the game" stuff. We absolutely dont do that in any way whatsoever. True. Rarely when we win do we do that. Aye, also the set penises are really fecking me off. Talk about lack of imagination and thought behind them. I mean at least try a short one or something different. Even a Sunday League team would come up with something else. Its now got to the point of embarrassment. INB4Edit Mrs Bimpy no longer doing it for him Too right sadly, it is hard to be turned by a Rhino in a basque like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 He basically needs to stop being worried about what other teams can do and just focus on our strengths, which clearly isn't long ball. Having everybody fit is my hope to rectifying this, so basically if that fails then I'll be at a bit concerned long term about Pardew's ideologies. The long ball s*** is painful and I think it's principally down to him not wanting us to lose our shape. Pardew loves to keep things really regimented and long ball suits that, if we start moving it around a lot more in the middle, I imagine he'll view that as potentially way more dangerous were we to lose the ball than us losing the ball all the time with hoofing but keeping our shape. If that is the case, it's a f***ing joke It is clearly the case. He doesn't like players being left out of position. Other than set pieces, you never see any of the midfield or back four taking a chance on anything and getting into the box. Watch a team like Everton or West Brom, not fantastic sides but set up to attack, their midfields at times are in packs in the opposition box. Even a team like Man United packs the box, wonder how many goals Ba and Cisse can actually score if we play like a good team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Set penises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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