Mick Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yes they should have, changing a manager at this point is a panic measure, you may get a new manager bounce, but its not guarenteed. Pardew has had a poor season, but you would be mad to get rid of him now, 10 games into next season with no improvement, yes, it would probably be the right thing to do. The extra money in TV rights next season is affecting judgment for many chairmen I suspect. I disagree with that, 10 games into the season and most managers will be in place at other clubs and 10 games into the season and any new manager will have lost the chance of working with the players in pre-season. I would like to see him go now but in reality, the best time to get rid of him will be once the season is over, as long as we are still picking up points this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yes they should have, changing a manager at this point is a panic measure, you may get a new manager bounce, but its not guarenteed. Pardew has had a poor season, but you would be mad to get rid of him now, 10 games into next season with no improvement, yes, it would probably be the right thing to do. The extra money in TV rights next season is affecting judgment for many chairmen I suspect. I disagree with that, 10 games into the season and most managers will be in place at other clubs and 10 games into the season and any new manager will have lost the chance of working with the players in pre-season. I would like to see him go now but in reality, the best time to get rid of him will be once the season is over, as long as we are still picking up points this season. This season and last season underline the importance of a good start to the season, and the negative effects of having a shit start. If we make a change at all, it should be in the summer. Ashley has an acceptable representative sample upon which to make his decision, or not as the case is more likely to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Anything less than 6 from the next two and i'll start to get worried. Villa & Wigan are getting stronger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Anything less than 6 from the next two and i'll start to get worried. Villa & Wigan are getting stronger. I think 3 against Fulham and we're safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If we give Sunderland 3, we are right back in it. I expect Villa/Wigan to pick up a good number of points from now until the end. QPR too. QPR are a bit too far away but the other two can definitely catch us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If we give Sunderland 3, we are right back in it. I expect Villa/Wigan to pick up a good number of points from now until the end. QPR too. QPR are a bit too far away but the other two can definitely catch us. 3 drags a few of the other teams in though, and I'd be very surprised if we don't win 2 of the last 5-6 games even if we don't beat Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Does anyone want Pardew to stay on another season? If there is anyone that want him to stay, why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If we give Sunderland 3, we are right back in it. I expect Villa/Wigan to pick up a good number of points from now until the end. QPR too. QPR are a bit too far away but the other two can definitely catch us. 3 drags a few of the other teams in though, and I'd be very surprised if we don't win 2 of the last 5-6 games even if we don't beat Sunderland. True but our run-in isn't the best and IMO the Europa is so important. The other teams would also expect to get at least 3 from the next 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 one win and a couple of draws should see us safe. Hopefully we get more than that though, with the games we have left we should be looking to try and remain unbeaten until the end of the season. As for sacking Pardew thats the easy part , Getting some one better may be a lot harder than most people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Blind optimism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Once we get a RB in better than Simpson we'll play much better. Once we get a CB in better than Williamson we will play much better. Once we get rid of Ba and move Cisse central we will play much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 He is going nowhere because he is the ultimate YES man & will spout any s**** the club ask him to. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article809898.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/Mike-Ashley-Alan-Pardew-Newcastle-casino-Aspers-cropped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Once we get a RB in better than Simpson we'll play much better. Once we get a CB in better than Williamson we will play much better. Once we get rid of Ba and move Cisse central we will play much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "Newcastle boss Alan Pardew says the Premier League remains his priority" Alan Pardew insists Newcastle's Europa League exploits will count for nothing if they are relegated from the Premier League. The Magpies are due to face Benfica in the first leg of their quarter-final clash on Thursday in a competition that has brought some solace to the Newcastle faithful in light of their disappointing domestic campaign. But Saturday's 4-0 defeat to Manchester City has left Pardew's side precariously close to the relegation zone and he admits the Premier League must be their priority. "We have done well in the Europa League, but it can't detract from the Premier League," he said. "We have to make sure we are safe. "We need two victories at least, and maybe a third or a fourth to get ourselves into a strong position." The drain on his players is clear for all to see, with Cheick Tiote and Davide Santon amongst the players to miss out through injury against City. "The Europa League is going to put us under pressure, because we are missing some big players at the moment," said Pardew. "But we didn't do ourselves any favours against City because we were not aggressive enough." Didn't he say the Europa League was our priority a couple of weeks ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Assuming we were in a safe league position, possibly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Pardew's words in the press should be ignored in all honesty. Stopped paying attention to his interviews many months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "Newcastle boss Alan Pardew says the Premier League remains his priority" Alan Pardew insists Newcastle's Europa League exploits will count for nothing if they are relegated from the Premier League. The Magpies are due to face Benfica in the first leg of their quarter-final clash on Thursday in a competition that has brought some solace to the Newcastle faithful in light of their disappointing domestic campaign. But Saturday's 4-0 defeat to Manchester City has left Pardew's side precariously close to the relegation zone and he admits the Premier League must be their priority. "We have done well in the Europa League, but it can't detract from the Premier League," he said. "We have to make sure we are safe. "We need two victories at least, and maybe a third or a fourth to get ourselves into a strong position." The drain on his players is clear for all to see, with Cheick Tiote and Davide Santon amongst the players to miss out through injury against City. "The Europa League is going to put us under pressure, because we are missing some big players at the moment," said Pardew. "But we didn't do ourselves any favours against City because we were not aggressive enough." Didn't he say the Europa League was our priority a couple of weeks ago? Such a pity. I was excited at the prospect of prioritising the Europa League, cos it's another world to the domestic campaign and thought we had a genuine shot at winning it. I'm expecting the attitude towards the Benfica games being similar to the group stage ones, now - which is such a shame cos it's a proper glamour tie. Dunno if I can really argue with it now, seeing as we've played ourselves into trouble again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't listen to Pardew anymore. It's a load of contradictory bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Nothing wrong with those quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 FWIW there's no way I'd chop in Pardew for Di Canio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 FWIW there's no way I'd chop in Pardew for Di Canio. Actually, neither would I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It's time for Paolo... http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/resources/images/1811832/?type=articleLandscape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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