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Tiresias

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We looked very strong at times defensively at times last season, though pace could undo us too easily, but that's something that I do think Pardew can do well, to me the hallmarks of Pardew teams seem to be

a) Set up for counter attacking such that when teams don't really press high we really don't know what to do

b) Basic passing poor, I am convinced we barely do any passing drilling in training and Pardew is of the sort to just think games of footy will improve players. This becomes particularly bad in games when we struggle to get a foothold in and need to just calmly pass it about a bit to gain some control, we never do, and normally get more and more frantic and messy

c) Lack of movement off the ball, this is something that he seems to actively drain out of players, I can only assume he's so desperate for players to hold position defensively he doesn't spend enough time on the offensive side of play. This is often responsible for our long balls as when there's no available runs players will then try and kick a ball to the target man, who doesn't exist

d) Poor tactical changes mid game. You can be too reactive to the opposition, but when things are going wrong, Pardew rarely turns it around (hence our awful record of coming from behind)

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We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries.

I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances ???

 

Wat ?

:lol: It's unbelievable, man.

 

We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that).

 

We went on a run of 7 points from 39, from mid-November until we started that frenzy of signing players in late January (aside from Debuchy).

:thup: I just find it baffling that people seem to think that all of his criticisms are unwarranted because he's had bad luck with injuries. He's been awful this year, and although our current situation is an unfair representation of him as a manger I think he's shown enough to suggest that his Manager of the Year title was a one off.
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Personally, I'm in a dilemma regarding how long he should be given. I think my official line is probably until Jan 2014, but I'm really only saying that because I don't want to throw out a manager a year after finishing 5th. The problem is that I find it absolutely impossible to imagine our team looking any different come the start of next season. Maybe we'll be battling for 12th instead of 17th, but we'll still be peddling mediocre inconsistent direction-less shite. Can't be fucked with our handsome bullshitter anymore.

 

That's a bad reason, man. IMO.*

 

There's only really Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton who are left to throw stones anyway :lol:

 

* - unless you mean from a footballing perspective, which the rest of your post suggests not

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Personally, I'm in a dilemma regarding how long he should be given. I think my official line is probably until Jan 2014, but I'm really only saying that because I don't want to throw out a manager a year after finishing 5th. The problem is that I find it absolutely impossible to imagine our team looking any different come the start of next season. Maybe we'll be battling for 12th instead of 17th, but we'll still be peddling mediocre inconsistent direction-less shite. Can't be fucked with our handsome bullshitter anymore.

 

That's a bad reason, man. IMO.

 

There's only really Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton who are left to throw stones anyway :lol:

 

* - unless you mean from a footballing perspective, which the rest of your post suggests not

 

 

I know, but we've thrown out too many managers too soon. Europa is a factor too here. We are still in the competition after all.

 

I think he at least needs to have a couple of months into next season. Lose the first 8 games and we're golden :scared:

 

and I don't think I could say I thought that he should stay because of our beautiful football last year. Not with a straight face anyway.

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Personally, I'm in a dilemma regarding how long he should be given. I think my official line is probably until Jan 2014, but I'm really only saying that because I don't want to throw out a manager a year after finishing 5th. The problem is that I find it absolutely impossible to imagine our team looking any different come the start of next season. Maybe we'll be battling for 12th instead of 17th, but we'll still be peddling mediocre inconsistent direction-less shite. Can't be fucked with our handsome bullshitter anymore.

 

That's a bad reason, man. IMO.*

 

There's only really Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton who are left to throw stones anyway :lol:

 

* - unless you mean from a footballing perspective, which the rest of your post suggests not

 

The press and fans of other clubs would lay into us, with lazy observations about us having finished 5th a year earlier and Pardew being excused for this year due to an unprecedented amount of injuries.  All the while, having only seen us on MOTD now and then.  I'd get annoyed, we'd appoint a new manager, I'd be happy again.

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Spies was my personal favourite :lol:

 

People are coming and looking through the fence and putting my team on the internet and giving it to the press

 

:lol:

 

Yup, still fucking slays me :lol: :lol:

 

Edit: sounds like some paranoid neighbour

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Should we give Pardew time seems to be the question here? How long does it take to work out that Shola Ameobi and Gabriel Obertan should be out of this club immediately. Shane Fergsuon is a better player than many at the club yet is out on loan to cover the manager's incompetence in Europe this season. Tiote should not be looked upon as the guy to pick the ball up off the back four and be the playmaker. Danny Simpson is garbage. When Hatem Ben Arfa has been out with a hamstring injury it isn't advisable to throw him back in as a centre forward on an astro pitch in freezing cold temperatures. I could go on and on but really can't be bothered. Pardew is an amateur. If Ashley had one of his managers at Sports Direct managing like Pardew or had staff performing to the level of Ameobi or Obertan they'd have been long gone.

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He's not an in particular kind of guy. Post something nice and vague, someone gets annoyed and responds aggressively, he claims he never said what they accused him of. Repeat.

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Should we give Pardew times seems to be the question? How long does it take to work out that Shola Ameobi and Gabriel Obertan should be out of this club immediately. Shane Fergsuon is a better player than many at the club yet is out on loan to cover the manager's incompetence in Europe this season. Tiote should not be looked upon as the guy to pick the ball up off the back four and be the playmaker. Danny Simpson is garbage. When Hatem Ben Arfa has been out with a hamstring injury it isn't advisable to throw him back in as a centre forward on an astro pitch in freezing cold temperatures. I could go on and on but really can't be bothered. Pardew is an amateur. If Ashley had one of his managers at Sports Direct managing like Pardew or had staff performing to the level of Ameobi or Obertan they'd have been long gone.

 

Are you the guy who said we should appoint gazza?

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Should we give Pardew times seems to be the question? How long does it take to work out that Shola Ameobi and Gabriel Obertan should be out of this club immediately.

 

How often do they play? and when they have why was it?

 

Shane Fergsuon is a better player than many at the club yet is out on loan to cover the manager's incompetence in Europe this season.

 

Most would agree he needed a loan, no idea what the Europe comment is about.

 

Tiote should not be looked upon as the guy to pick the ball up off the back four and be the playmaker.

 

Tiote tries too much often when there is a lot easier pass, I doubt he has been told to do this but we can't really prove this either way.

 

Danny Simpson is garbage.

 

Has been dropped as soon as we had a better player, same as Williamson

 

When Hatem Ben Arfa has been out with a hamstring injury it isn't advisable to throw him back in as a centre forward on an astro pitch in freezing cold temperatures.

 

I will refrain from getting into this argument again.

 

I could go and on but really can't be bothered. Pardew is an amateur. If Ashley had one of his managers at Sports Direct managing like Pardew or had staff performing to the level of Ameobi or Obertan they'd have been long gone.

 

 

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He's not an in particular kind of guy. Post something nice and vague, someone gets annoyed and responds aggressively, he claims he never said what they accused him of. Repeat.

 

:lol: He's been areet for ages now though, I'm genuinely interested at what's so objectionable.

 

Should we give Pardew times seems to be the question? How long does it take to work out that Shola Ameobi and Gabriel Obertan should be out of this club immediately. Shane Fergsuon is a better player than many at the club yet is out on loan to cover the manager's incompetence in Europe this season. Tiote should not be looked upon as the guy to pick the ball up off the back four and be the playmaker. Danny Simpson is garbage. When Hatem Ben Arfa has been out with a hamstring injury it isn't advisable to throw him back in as a centre forward on an astro pitch in freezing cold temperatures. I could go on and on but really can't be bothered. Pardew is an amateur. If Ashley had one of his managers at Sports Direct managing like Pardew or had staff performing to the level of Ameobi or Obertan they'd have been long gone.

 

Are you the guy who said we should appoint gazza?

 

:lol: Going to be difficult to shake that one off.

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Should we give Pardew times seems to be the question? How long does it take to work out that Shola Ameobi and Gabriel Obertan should be out of this club immediately. Shane Fergsuon is a better player than many at the club yet is out on loan to cover the manager's incompetence in Europe this season. Tiote should not be looked upon as the guy to pick the ball up off the back four and be the playmaker. Danny Simpson is garbage. When Hatem Ben Arfa has been out with a hamstring injury it isn't advisable to throw him back in as a centre forward on an astro pitch in freezing cold temperatures. I could go on and on but really can't be bothered. Pardew is an amateur. If Ashley had one of his managers at Sports Direct managing like Pardew or had staff performing to the level of Ameobi or Obertan they'd have been long gone.

 

Are you the guy who said we should appoint gazza?

 

Didn't say we should appoint Gazza. I said I would take Gazza ahead of Pardew and believe me I'd take anyone ahead of Pardew. You'd have to be a complete baffoon not to be able to do better than Pardew with this squad of players.

 

Do you work for the press by any chance? You seem quite good at twisting quotes to suit yourself.

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:lol: I mean, Pardew is not good, don't get me wrong.. but you'd rather an alcoholic with exceptionally limited managerial experience and a shelf life of about 8-12 months, than Pards?
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