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i see most have already brought what the salesman Pardew had sold to them pre match interview.

‘There’s only one team which has beaten them by two clear goals, and that’s Barcelona,’ Pardew said.

 

‘That’s the size of the task, so we are under no illusions there. This is a Champions League team, really. That’s the quality we are up against. We have to approach the game in the right manner and try to get to the end of the game in a position where we can get it back.’

 

What would your starting lineup have been?

 

 

Marv for Bigi.

 

Easy.

 

Why not HBA for Bigi?

 

Because HBA has been injured for a while. Well I would've started both of them easily if they were both fit.

 

:thup:

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Do any of the haters who are now crying  think we couldnt do it at 80 mins?

 

We had a 10 minute spell and then ran out of steam when Benfica had re organised themselves.

 

10 minutes out of 90 is fucking terrible.

 

 

 

Exactly, I'd imagine I'm classed as a "hater" and was horrified to see the lineup, the pre-match comments, and the first 70 minutes as I'm proud of our club and would always like to see us go out to get teams.  Most weeks we don't even try to, yet I'm a "hater" for criticising the man responsible.

 

cp40 - you've been watching us for years.  I hate watching this shite in general.  How do you feel about watching it?

 

 

I dont like aspects of our game, but I understand the bigger picture and accept, as I anticipate better things next season.

 

edit, and I love being in euro quater finals and feel proud

 

Based on what though CP. Do you think we will start playing better football, passing football, be more positive and not negative worrying about the opposition, rather than focusing on our strengths.

 

If you think all that, well i hope your right, but personally i think you must be going mad if you think Pardew will do any of that.

 

 

yes, I do- if not you can fill your boots and i will be humbled.

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Do any of the haters who are now crying  think we couldnt do it at 80 mins?

 

We had a 10 minute spell and then ran out of steam when Benfica had re organised themselves.

 

10 minutes out of 90 is f***ing terrible.

 

 

 

Exactly, I'd imagine I'm classed as a "hater" and was horrified to see the lineup, the pre-match comments, and the first 70 minutes as I'm proud of our club and would always like to see us go out to get teams.  Most weeks we don't even try to, yet I'm a "hater" for criticising the man responsible.

 

cp40 - you've been watching us for years.  I hate watching this s**** in general.  How do you feel about watching it?

 

 

I dont like aspects of our game, but I understand the bigger picture and accept, as I anticipate better things next season.

 

edit, and I love being in euro quater finals and feel proud

 

Based on what though CP. Do you think we will start playing better football, passing football, be more positive and not negative worrying about the opposition, rather than focusing on our strengths.

 

If you think all that, well i hope your right, but personally i think you must be going mad if you think Pardew will do any of that.

 

Spot on. Asked the exact same thing. And I feel the same. Everyone who believes in Pardew deserve credit for believing and I hope to god you guys are right. Personally, there is just no way that's possible in my mind :lol:

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So unlucky tonight I thought - was handicapped by the 2 disastrous errors from the first leg and a long list of key injuries but almost masterminded the perfect game.

 

:lol: :lol:

 

For someone who was at pains to point out how much of a tosser I was towards people who didn't have the same view as me, you're becoming awfully proficient at playing that role.

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I fail to see what he did wrong personally, if we opened up they would have scored a lot sooner as they are a superior football team.

 

The plan was perfect but it wasn't executed to said perfection sadly :(.

 

There are other ways to play FFS! For 70 minutes we simply did f*** all. You don't have to open up and be all gung ho to win 2-0. But our idiot of a manager didnt know this.

 

I know that but you must realise by now Pardew isn't capable of that? you are asking him to do things he isn't capable of.

 

The plan was fine, sadly we couldn't take the chances we did have.

 

The plan wasn't fine at all. It relied in Benfica not scoring, and us scoring twice in 20 minutes. We only scored once in 90 against this lot when we were actually quite attacking. The plan was fucking awful and guaranteed to fail. I just knew Benfica were going tis score at some point. Hopefully he will have the good grace to refun the fans their ticket money...

 

Exactly. He basically tried to win 2-0 inside the final 20 mins. Benfica are not a good team defensively, but we waited until the last half hour before putting on the players to test them. Bigirimana FFS.

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i see most have already brought what the salesman Pardew had sold to them pre match interview.

‘There’s only one team which has beaten them by two clear goals, and that’s Barcelona,’ Pardew said.

 

‘That’s the size of the task, so we are under no illusions there. This is a Champions League team, really. That’s the quality we are up against. We have to approach the game in the right manner and try to get to the end of the game in a position where we can get it back.’

 

What would your starting lineup have been?

 

 

Marv for Bigi.

 

Easy.

 

Why not HBA for Bigi?

 

Because HBA has been injured for a while. Well I would've started both of them easily if they were both fit.

 

:thup:

 

Is Marv injured?

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I am a huge critic of his but considering what we had I thought that he did pretty fucking well tonight. If we had gone all out from the off they would have had us on the counter, too much pace. Would have had Marveaux on from start though. I'm gutted, really thought we were gonna do it.

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I love the way people blame Pardew for how everything that happens in all our games. Did no one see Benfica harassing us and getting pretty much everyone behind the ball every time we even looked to attack first half? I swear some people just see a football pitch with only our players on it and just expect us to tear teams to shreds.

 

I think some people have genuine concern for our style of play. If anything people who gives credit to Pardew time and time again are those who probably don't see football enough outside of our club.

 

I'm not being harsh on Pardew tonight, he did what he was capable of, but I do disagree with his approach.

 

This would be me, the style of play is the thing i hate. I want decent football, attacking football and it's never happening under Pardew.

 

2 years is long enough to see what football he wants us to play, and it's ugly mostly defensive tripe imo.

 

My main problem with him as well, when we attack everything is so slow and dull.. and that shouldn't be the case with some of the players we have, especially when you see clubs all over Europe with inferior players playing better football than us each week.

 

And this is solely down to Pardew, he doesn't have us playing good football, so i still can't get my head around why people see a future with him at the helm. Well him in charge and us playing decent stuff anyways.

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Needs to take the fkn blame I am bastard devastated he had them hung on this fkn win 2-0 shit was a stupid risky way to go into the game.

We struggle to score twice in 90 mins but in that situation they should gone in with an attacking team with the mind set we need to win 4-0.

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Their left back was so dangerous to us that Bigi got subbed for a centre forward at half time, and Ben Arfa skinned him about five times.

 

Great idea though, being scared of them and that. Worked perfectly in wasting 45mins.

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So unlucky tonight I thought - was handicapped by the 2 disastrous errors from the first leg and a long list of key injuries but almost masterminded the perfect game.

 

:lol: :lol:

 

For someone who was at pains to point out how much of a tosser I was towards people who didn't have the same view as me, you're becoming awfully proficient at playing that role.

 

:lol: Oh brill, it's Stu again. 

 

I'm laughing at it because it's basically going to become the epitaph of this game, and indeed this season.  Manager did nowt wrong, just had awful luck.

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I give up till this point people still have their noses firmly up Pardew's Ass.

Pardew nose is Probably up Mike's Ass anyway so just have to bear with Pardew till the penny drops.

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Do any of the haters who are now crying  think we couldnt do it at 80 mins?

 

We had a 10 minute spell and then ran out of steam when Benfica had re organised themselves.

 

10 minutes out of 90 is fucking terrible.

 

 

 

Exactly, I'd imagine I'm classed as a "hater" and was horrified to see the lineup, the pre-match comments, and the first 70 minutes as I'm proud of our club and would always like to see us go out to get teams.  Most weeks we don't even try to, yet I'm a "hater" for criticising the man responsible.

 

cp40 - you've been watching us for years.  I hate watching this shite in general.  How do you feel about watching it?

 

 

I dont like aspects of our game, but I understand the bigger picture and accept, as I anticipate better things next season.

 

edit, and I love being in euro quater finals and feel proud

 

Based on what though CP. Do you think we will start playing better football, passing football, be more positive and not negative worrying about the opposition, rather than focusing on our strengths.

 

If you think all that, well i hope your right, but personally i think you must be going mad if you think Pardew will do any of that.

 

 

yes, I do- if not you can fill your boots and i will be humbled.

 

I'm not a told you so person CP, the team come before my own arrogance and smugness. If this team does all that under Pardew then i'll happily eat humble pie.

 

The team is the main thing under whatever manager.

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At home in front of 52000 passionate supporters, let fucking Benfica worry about us. Never mind lay off them for an hour. It is his cowardly and negative style that makes me want him to get the bullet.

 

 

would you have celebrated if it worked ?  did it come close to working?

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They had more possession, more shots at goal and despite the fact they didn't need to, they tried to win the game more than we did. We have the players to attack teams but virtually never do. Expect more of this on Sunday.

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I'm well and truly on the other side of the fence tonight. I thought tonight really suited him - we absolutely had to kill the game stone dead in the first half and that's what we did.

 

Gameplan was to get to 80 minutes with a 1-0 lead and get another - that was the only way we could win the game tonight (I'm much more confident in us needing a goal than trying to sit on a lead - isn't everyone? - and them scoring at any point either kills us off or means extra time - no thanks, not tonight), and we very nearly did that. If Ben Arfa keeps that shot down, if Marveaux isn't chopped down, if we show a bit more composure in and around their box in those last few minutes, we win that game.

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I'm well and truly on the other side of the fence tonight. I thought tonight really suited him - we absolutely had to kill the game stone dead in the first half and that's what we did.

 

Gameplan was to get to 80 minutes with a 1-0 lead and get another - that was the only way we could win the game tonight (I'm much more confident in us needing a goal than trying to sit on a lead - isn't everyone?), and we very nearly did that. If Ben Arfa keeps that shot down, if Marveaux isn't chopped down, if we show a bit more composure in and around their box in those last few minutes, we win that game.

 

Aye, I'm with you on this one chap. That's exactly how I saw it.

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Their left back was so dangerous to us that Bigi got subbed for a centre forward at half time, and Ben Arfa skinned him about five times.

 

Great idea though, being scared of them and that. Worked perfectly in wasting 45mins.

 

:thup:

 

I can't see how people can suggest he was spot on today. He didn't lose us the tie but he was nowhere near setting us up to go through.

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Their defence were absolutely shitting themselves when we started attacking them. They were more than suspect at the back, even when we played at their place. Why we waited until 60-odd minutes to try and score two goals is beyond me. We put ourselves in a position where we had to go all out; so of course they were going to score once we did that.

 

Pardew is severely limited.

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