Ronaldo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Kind of hoping I'll wake up to.. http://i47.tinypic.com/2ylus20.png At the end of the season. As long as it's not Aug 23rd I'll be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. That's the other problem, Pardew has now become the Steve Bruce of Tyneside. I can see him waving the white flag to Di Canio for the foreseeable future. Tbf, after we hammered them 5-1 they went on a good run. If we could do the same i'd be more than happy! In all seriousness, there has to be a reaction to that defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. That's the other problem, Pardew has now become the Steve Bruce of Tyneside. I can see him waving the white flag to Di Canio for the foreseeable future. Tbf, after we hammered them 5-1 they went on a good run. If we could do the same i'd be more than happy! In all seriousness, there has to be a reaction to that defeat. Absolutely agree. If we don't see one then I'll be very worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll turn things around. By how much is the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. That's the other problem, Pardew has now become the Steve Bruce of Tyneside. I can see him waving the white flag to Di Canio for the foreseeable future. Tbf, after we hammered them 5-1 they went on a good run. If we could do the same i'd be more than happy! In all seriousness, there has to be a reaction to that defeat. We responded to our hammering from Arsenal by losing to Everton and Brighton. We responded to our 4-0 hammering from City by losing to Benfica. We responded to the disappointment of being knocked out by Benfica by getting taken apart from the local scum. Yeah our reactions haven't been great this season so maybe we shouldn't go getting our hopes up. I think we'll lose to West Brom and draw against Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll turn things around. By how much is the question. The most I'd think next season he'd do even with backing in the summer is 8th. Would that be OK for Ashley & Co though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll turn things around. By how much is the question. Tend to agree, a lot of it depends on things like momentum, injuries and building everyone's confidence. At the very least the end of the season will allow some of the stress and negativity to lift, and the players to recuperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll turn things around. By how much is the question. The most I'd think next season he'd do even with backing in the summer is 8th. Would that be OK for Ashley & Co though? I'd be amazed if it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll turn things around. By how much is the question. The most I'd think next season he'd do even with backing in the summer is 8th. Would that be OK for Ashley & Co though? I'd be amazed if it's not. Unless they think we can make the Champions League there's no reason it wouldn't be enough really. I would like to think we'll have a good go at the cups as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. Bit facetious but I get you. We were discussing what Ashley would deem acceptable, not what the fans should aim for. My view is that a couple of league places either way isn't that important, as long as we have an enjoyable season with enough exciting moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. its ok for me tbh, If we arnt getting champions league, Id rather give EL a miss and try for a domestic cup- imagine that- winning a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. its ok for me tbh, If we arnt getting champions league, Id rather give EL a miss and try for a domestic cup- imagine that- winning a cup. Forward thinking that stuff about winning a domestic cup. Tell Pardew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. The aim every year should be top six, I just don't think the club would find 8th unsatisfactory enough to bin the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. The aim every year should be top six, I just don't think the club would find 8th unsatisfactory enough to bin the manager. If that's true then that's depressing to think that's the ambition of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 8th is unacceptable IMO. Guess that makes me a pessimist. Wish I was one of those optimists that aims for mid table. The aim every year should be top six, I just don't think the club would find 8th unsatisfactory enough to bin the manager. Oh, I agree but I think there's far too many fans happy with hovering around 8th place as well. The club has no need to strive for success when such a significant proportion of the support think being in the top half is a marvellous achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Of course that's true man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 if we finish 8th the bloke shouldn't be sacked like, that's an absolutely ridiculous job-on-the-line target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I mean he should be gone now, but if he stays we cannot sack the man for finishing 8th imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 if we finish 8th the bloke shouldn't be sacked like, that's an absolutely ridiculous job-on-the-line target. Depends. If we'd finished 8th this season playing like this - still might (arf) - we should still be getting rid. It's insufferable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 We shouldn't like. If we finished anywhere top half I'd be happy, it just depends if its 10th place 3 seasons in a row. No signs of progression and I'd be displeased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 if we finish 8th the bloke shouldn't be sacked like, that's an absolutely ridiculous job-on-the-line target. Depends. If we'd finished 8th this season playing like this - still might (arf) - we should still be getting rid. It's insufferable. Or aye, I don't think it's cut and dry at all and there are many factors that come into play, but 8th would be a good season most years and I cannot think of many owners who would keep their man after a relegation scrap and then bin him for finishing 8th. I don't think we'll finish 8th with him though unless we invest in another 4-5 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 if we finish 8th the bloke shouldn't be sacked like, that's an absolutely ridiculous job-on-the-line target. Depends. If we'd finished 8th this season playing like this - still might (arf) - we should still be getting rid. It's insufferable. Or aye, I don't think it's cut and dry at all, but 8th would be a good season most years and I cannot think of many owners who would keep their man after a relegation scrap and then bin him for finishing 8th. I don't think we'll finish 8th with him though unless we invest in another 4-5 players. I think we could invest in another 45 players and not see any progression. He's a busted flush. I hate him and yet even I didn't think he could make Sissoko and MYM look this shit. He makes every single player worse due to his approach. TRon's absolutely right when he says he's Di Canio's bitch now. We simply cannot afford to risk going into another derby with this man at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 With no Europe next year, with the squad we have, top 7 minimum for me. Without having to constantly grind out 1-0 victories at home to the likes of Norwich and Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 We shouldn't like. If we finished anywhere top half I'd be happy, it just depends if its 10th place 3 seasons in a row. No signs of progression and I'd be displeased. So if we finish 10th this season you'll be happy? Even though we've been atrocious for an entire season and got humiliated by that lot? Exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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