Loïc Remy

[Shayno]

Think the money could be way better spent than on Remy so I am not too worried, whether we will spend it on the other hand is another thing.

[mrmojorisin75]

8m better spent than on remy, such as?  out of genuine interest...

[ohmelads]

Honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by this - also, the slating of Redknapp is just about funny...

 

Football is a dog-eat-dog business and we have been here before...back in the 70s, Dinnis had 2 Irish players lined up to sign and we were playing their club, Bohemians, in the Uefa that night at SJP.

Tommy Docherty, manager of Derby at the time, actually pinched them from under our noses before Dinnis could sign them. Then we had Sunderland, run by McMenemy at the time, pinching Alan Kennedy from under our noses when we had set up a deal to bring him back from Liverpool in 1985.

 

If we had grabbed a player that QPR were on the brink of signing, nobody on here would have been whinging about Pardew's sneaky antics and would have laughed at any outrage expressed by QPR fans....

 

Redknapp was able to get the player(s) because his club were able and willing to pay more wages - that's business and that's life.

 

Newcastle United are a club punching below their weight and because of that, they will ALWAYS be in the same position of making do and mend because there is no way Ashley is going to budge from his policies. These things are like an avalanche - get some momentum going and you pick up more ; that applies to both success and failure. The club failed to invest in the summer and are now going to find it much more difficult to attract better players because both the lack of ambition and the league position are a deterrent.....had we pushed on and been higher in the league we would have been more of a target destination for decent players.

 

This is also likely to cause players like Cabaye and HBA to re-think their futures at SJP unless we manage to get some better players. Personally, I had a number of questions about Remy and both his commitment and fitness but that remains to be seen and if he comes off for QPR good luck to them - life and football is about taking shrewd gambles and that is what they have done.

 

It is clear enough to a blind man now that we are always going to struggle to get top players if we have to compete with most PL club's wages so we are going to be a selling club.

 

That is a disgrace for a club with the support of NUFC and I will never be convinced that the club will approach anything like consistent success(i.e., Top 6 regularly, winning a trophy) whilst Ashley and Llambias are at the club.

Kevin Keegan laid the blame firmly at their door in his recent ESPN interview and whilst I thought he was far too quick to excuse Pardew from any blame for the club's position, he was essentially correct in what he said.

 

Get used to it - if you are happy with the way the club is being run it is pointless to complain about things like this - the fault lies at our own door and that of greedy players, not with Rednapp, QPR, Chelsea or Man City etc

 

Couldn't agree more, well said.

 

Neither surprised nor that gutted this time though to be honest. He looks like a player who has attritubes we need and might have slotted into our team perfectly but the fact he struggled to get in the Marseilles team and has gone there purely for money suggests we might be better off. To compete with QPR on wages would have shattered our wage structure and half the squad would soon be asking for a rise. It all depends who we can bring in, if it's no one (more than possible) then this is a disaster.

 

I share your fears over our other stars. We took the road of complacency in summer and unless we can make a statement of intent this month, I think more will be out the exit door over the coming summer. There are no guarantees in football as in life but if we bring in the kinds of players we need I am very confident we can pull away from the bottom teams. If we don't, I am equally confident we're in for a very nervous end to the season and not for the first time under the current board/owner.

[toontownman]

Could see Pardew walking too if we don't spend money this window.

[mrmojorisin75]

[Shayno]

8m better spent than on remy, such as?  out of genuine interest...

Range of CB targets, even if we were looking for a replacement for Ba I would prefer someone more familiar on the left of a front three like Mertens, Payet, Bernard or Tadic.

[mrmojorisin75]

and they're available for that sort of money are they?  personally think ashley will only be looking to invest on or about the same money he got for ba on a replacement

[Shayno]

and they're available for that sort of money are they?  personally think ashley will only be looking to invest on or about the same money he got for ba on a replacement

 

Tadic was available for 5.5 million but is probably on the way to Liverpool. I wouldn't have thought the fee for Mertens wouldn't be too much more expensive than Remy. Bernard is probably a bit dreamy

[Tachikoma]

Could see Pardew walking too if we don't spend money this window.

:yao:

[Taylor Swift]

The funny thing is, if Pardew leaves, our best player most likely leaves too. Ok, it's not really funny. It's fucked up.

[samag]

If Q.P.R are paying him in the region of 70 -80 grand a week , then good luck to the lad. I have not seen enough of him to know if he worth that kind of money.  The question i would ask were we too slow going for him. for me we should have agreed the fee for him when Ba was in talks with Chelsea, and moved more quickly. We seemed tohave left the door  open  for Q.P.R by delaying our move and they seem to have taken it.

[sugoinufc]

Honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by this - also, the slating of Redknapp is just about funny...

 

Football is a dog-eat-dog business and we have been here before...back in the 70s, Dinnis had 2 Irish players lined up to sign and we were playing their club, Bohemians, in the Uefa that night at SJP.

Tommy Docherty, manager of Derby at the time, actually pinched them from under our noses before Dinnis could sign them. Then we had Sunderland, run by McMenemy at the time, pinching Alan Kennedy from under our noses when we had set up a deal to bring him back from Liverpool in 1985.

 

If we had grabbed a player that QPR were on the brink of signing, nobody on here would have been whinging about Pardew's sneaky antics and would have laughed at any outrage expressed by QPR fans....

 

Redknapp was able to get the player(s) because his club were able and willing to pay more wages - that's business and that's life.

 

Newcastle United are a club punching below their weight and because of that, they will ALWAYS be in the same position of making do and mend because there is no way Ashley is going to budge from his policies. These things are like an avalanche - get some momentum going and you pick up more ; that applies to both success and failure. The club failed to invest in the summer and are now going to find it much more difficult to attract better players because both the lack of ambition and the league position are a deterrent.....had we pushed on and been higher in the league we would have been more of a target destination for decent players.

 

This is also likely to cause players like Cabaye and HBA to re-think their futures at SJP unless we manage to get some better players. Personally, I had a number of questions about Remy and both his commitment and fitness but that remains to be seen and if he comes off for QPR good luck to them - life and football is about taking shrewd gambles and that is what they have done.

 

It is clear enough to a blind man now that we are always going to struggle to get top players if we have to compete with most PL club's wages so we are going to be a selling club.

 

That is a disgrace for a club with the support of NUFC and I will never be convinced that the club will approach anything like consistent success(i.e., Top 6 regularly, winning a trophy) whilst Ashley and Llambias are at the club.

Kevin Keegan laid the blame firmly at their door in his recent ESPN interview and whilst I thought he was far too quick to excuse Pardew from any blame for the club's position, he was essentially correct in what he said.

 

Get used to it - if you are happy with the way the club is being run it is pointless to complain about things like this - the fault lies at our own door and that of greedy players, not with Rednapp, QPR, Chelsea or Man City etc

 

well your are right of course. Still hope we get him. But i dont expect him to make much of an impact this season....sounds like he is on his way back from injury and guess he needs a bit of time to adjust to life in the PL...especially fighting relegation.

 

If he goes to QPR...who is our next target? This makes me nervous.

 

Hope and think QPR goes down. Spending money like they have on old players and paying silly money for players who only comes for the money isn´t sexy. We have been there ourself and i hope they will learn a lesson.

 

 

[sugoinufc]

If Q.P.R are paying him in the region of 70 -80 grand a week , then good luck to the lad. I have not seen enough of him to know if he worth that kind of money.  The question i would ask were we too slow going for him. for me we should have agreed the fee for him when Ba was in talks with Chelsea, and moved more quickly. We seemed tohave left the door  open  for Q.P.R by delaying our move and they seem to have taken it.

 

hard to say. Actually i believe we have done our best here. Players and especially agents are holding back, waiting to see if something silly happens...like here. He flew to London to meet us....and Arry (the person he wouldn´t even meet although he had gone to france to see him) suddenly doubles our offer. What can you do?

 

Think he would prefer us if the wages offered were almost the same.

[ExiledGeordie]

 

Honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by this - also, the slating of Redknapp is just about funny...

 

Football is a dog-eat-dog business and we have been here before...back in the 70s, Dinnis had 2 Irish players lined up to sign and we were playing their club, Bohemians, in the Uefa that night at SJP.

Tommy Docherty, manager of Derby at the time, actually pinched them from under our noses before Dinnis could sign them. Then we had Sunderland, run by McMenemy at the time, pinching Alan Kennedy from under our noses when we had set up a deal to bring him back from Liverpool in 1985.

 

If we had grabbed a player that QPR were on the brink of signing, nobody on here would have been whinging about Pardew's sneaky antics and would have laughed at any outrage expressed by QPR fans....

 

Redknapp was able to get the player(s) because his club were able and willing to pay more wages - that's business and that's life.

 

Newcastle United are a club punching below their weight and because of that, they will ALWAYS be in the same position of making do and mend because there is no way Ashley is going to budge from his policies. These things are like an avalanche - get some momentum going and you pick up more ; that applies to both success and failure. The club failed to invest in the summer and are now going to find it much more difficult to attract better players because both the lack of ambition and the league position are a deterrent.....had we pushed on and been higher in the league we would have been more of a target destination for decent players.

 

This is also likely to cause players like Cabaye and HBA to re-think their futures at SJP unless we manage to get some better players. Personally, I had a number of questions about Remy and both his commitment and fitness but that remains to be seen and if he comes off for QPR good luck to them - life and football is about taking shrewd gambles and that is what they have done.

 

It is clear enough to a blind man now that we are always going to struggle to get top players if we have to compete with most PL club's wages so we are going to be a selling club.

 

That is a disgrace for a club with the support of NUFC and I will never be convinced that the club will approach anything like consistent success(i.e., Top 6 regularly, winning a trophy) whilst Ashley and Llambias are at the club.

Kevin Keegan laid the blame firmly at their door in his recent ESPN interview and whilst I thought he was far too quick to excuse Pardew from any blame for the club's position, he was essentially correct in what he said.

 

Get used to it - if you are happy with the way the club is being run it is pointless to complain about things like this - the fault lies at our own door and that of greedy players, not with Rednapp, QPR, Chelsea or Man City etc

 

 

Well put. Ultimately I'm not that fussed about Remy given the way this deal has panned out with ludicrous finances. I'm glad the club weren't prepared to break the bank for this player. But a poor end to this window and the same old s*** in the summer and I'll have started to really lose interest completely. The worry about the other players feeling the same and leaving is a real possibility. I've moved back up here having been in London since 1996 but I mean no proper ambition so what's the point in going?

[Cronky]

Why are people complaining about him choosing money over coming to us? Who's more likely to have success? The club willing to pay top money or the club that isn't? Is he suppose to come to us and think to himself that we're more likely to be successful when we always always lower wages? Come on. Get real. Clubs that offer the most money get the best players. If QPR offer the most money to the best players, players will come and play for them, and they will be more successful than us. If their owner is willing to subsidise them then it's fair enough.

 

Let's not kid ourselves and say he chose money over us. He chose money and the potential of success over us, a choice that given to any other footballer would be the same. You tellin me Ben Arfa will stay with us long term if Chelsea offer him 100k/pw? QPR are, at the moment, far away from Chelsea, but if they keep on offering top dollar to talented players then they'll end up being closer to Chelsea than we are.

 

I'm disappointed in him choosing them over us but it's really reflective of the way the game is structured at the moment. On the one hand, clubs that try to operate with a sensible financial model like us are screwed. But on the other hand, if QPR couldn't do this, they'd already be consigned to relegation, which also isn't fair. If they can and want to pay, let them pay. If FFP comes in hard, it will lock away the top league positions forever because clubs like us and them will never be able to generate enough revenue to compete with Arsenal and Man Utd. And how are most clubs supposed to build big enough stadiums to bring in more revenue when all they're doing is competing for 8th? It's a vicious circle. If we weren't being fucked over, I would say well done to QPR because they're doing what they have to do to survive.

 

You can't persuade me that his choice is based on the chances of success, as well as money. QPR are bottom of the league, and a few days ago, Remy was refusing to speak to them. On the point of us signing him, QPR basically threw money at him in a rather desperate gesture.

 

A few days ago, Redknapp was moaning about having to deal with players who were on sky-high wages who weren't motivated to deliver for the club. Now he's signed a player who didn't want to come, and who has only been persuaded by mega-dosh.

 

It didn't work out for us with Owen, and I don't think it'll work for them.

[Jimburst]

I still reckon he could still choose us. Depends whether a big fat paycheck and a relegation clause will tempt him. If QPR get relegated there's always the chance he could go somewhere bigger than NUFC for free.

 

[AlanSkÃrare]

I still reckon he could still choose us. Depends whether a big fat paycheck and a relegation clause will tempt him. If QPR get relegated there's always the chance he could go somewhere bigger than NUFC for free.

 

 

I seems to be very much over.

[Taylor Swift]

Why are people complaining about him choosing money over coming to us? Who's more likely to have success? The club willing to pay top money or the club that isn't? Is he suppose to come to us and think to himself that we're more likely to be successful when we always always lower wages? Come on. Get real. Clubs that offer the most money get the best players. If QPR offer the most money to the best players, players will come and play for them, and they will be more successful than us. If their owner is willing to subsidise them then it's fair enough.

 

Let's not kid ourselves and say he chose money over us. He chose money and the potential of success over us, a choice that given to any other footballer would be the same. You tellin me Ben Arfa will stay with us long term if Chelsea offer him 100k/pw? QPR are, at the moment, far away from Chelsea, but if they keep on offering top dollar to talented players then they'll end up being closer to Chelsea than we are.

 

I'm disappointed in him choosing them over us but it's really reflective of the way the game is structured at the moment. On the one hand, clubs that try to operate with a sensible financial model like us are screwed. But on the other hand, if QPR couldn't do this, they'd already be consigned to relegation, which also isn't fair. If they can and want to pay, let them pay. If FFP comes in hard, it will lock away the top league positions forever because clubs like us and them will never be able to generate enough revenue to compete with Arsenal and Man Utd. And how are most clubs supposed to build big enough stadiums to bring in more revenue when all they're doing is competing for 8th? It's a vicious circle. If we weren't being fucked over, I would say well done to QPR because they're doing what they have to do to survive.

 

You can't persuade me that his choice is based on the chances of success, as well as money. QPR are bottom of the league, and a few days ago, Remy was refusing to speak to them. On the point of us signing him, QPR basically threw money at him in a rather desperate gesture.

 

A few days ago, Redknapp was moaning about having to deal with players who were on sky-high wages who weren't motivated to deliver for the club. Now he's signed a player who didn't want to come, and who has only been persuaded by mega-dosh.

 

It didn't work out for us with Owen, and I don't think it'll work for them.

 

If QPR are willing to do this for everyone, they will be successful.

 

It's really a no lose situation for him. He plays well, QPR survives, he stays and watches them rocket up the table with new players and a good manager.

 

He doesn't play well, QPR survives, he collects money and gets to play in the Premiership.

 

He plays well, QPR gets relegated, clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool will be all over a Premiership-proven player. This is his best case scenario. He gets a move to a big club and still gets paid.

 

He doesn't play well, QPR gets relegated. This is his worst case scenario and it still entails him getting 70k/pw.

 

There's no chance he's coming to us for 40k/pw. No chance.

[Wullie]

Let's not pretend that we're so high and mighty that "we don't want a player that's just here for the money"

 

Yaya Toure doesn't play for Man City because he idolised Shaun Goater when he was young.

 

The argument that "we know throwing money at players doesn't work" as well - that depends solely on who you give it to. We gave it to Souness, them to Redknapp. Spot the difference.

[Wilson]

urgh

[Skirge]

Was expecting yo get up to "Remy does another u-turn"

[Taylor Swift]

Let's not pretend that we're so high and mighty that "we don't want a player that's just here for the money"

 

Yaya Toure doesn't play for Man City because he idolised Shaun Goater when he was young.

 

The argument that "we know throwing money at players doesn't work" as well - that depends solely on who you give it to. We gave it to Souness, them to Redknapp. Spot the difference.

 

Yup.

 

The reason Lille's captain came to us is because we offered to double or triple his wages. He didn't come here for the sexy football that Pardew gets his teams to play.

 

Some players aren't fully motivated by money. Some are motivated by glory and fame, so they want to win things and they want to be remembered. These players stay motivated even when they earn huge amounts, players like Messi and Ronaldo. But most, given the choice of two equal teams, will choose the one that offers more money. QPR and us aren't far apart enough. He's not rejecting Arsenal for them. He's rejecting us for them.

[Alberto2005]

Could you imagine.

[BeloEmre]

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/kasper36/Newcastle%20United%20FC%20-%20The%20Animated%20Series/qpr.gif

[Guest]

Let's not pretend that we're so high and mighty that "we don't want a player that's just here for the money"

 

Yaya Toure doesn't play for Man City because he idolised Shaun Goater when he was young.

 

The argument that "we know throwing money at players doesn't work" as well - that depends solely on who you give it to. We gave it to Souness, them to Redknapp. Spot the difference.

 

If they stay up they'll probably have 3-4 good years like at Portsmouth where they splash the cash, then when they can no longer sustain it he'll piss off to England after Roy or whatever like he did to go to Spurs and leave them in the shit.