Loïc Remy

[Wilson]

We have to move on to the next target TODAY and pay what it takes to get him (within reason oviously).

 

We apparently scout them for months/years before they get on the shortlist so shouldn't be too hard to move on....aye right by the time we've readied the offer the window will be shut.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Yesterday has really knocked the stuffing out of me as far as football in general goes.

 

Same here. Feel so dejected.

[Benwell Lad]

Obvious disappointment to lose out on a player to a desperate offer from a club who have already shown they are prepared to throw silly money around.

It's led to some anger and criticism of our transfer policy, but with regard to this specific case, does anyone think we should go head to head with QPR regarding terms to get this player at any cost ?

I know we won't, but just interested to know if people think we should.

[mrmojorisin75]

Obvious disappointment to lose out on a player to a desperate offer from a club who have already shown they are prepared to throw silly money around.

It's led to some anger and criticism of our transfer policy, but with regard to this specific case, does anyone think we should go head to head with QPR regarding terms to get this player at any cost ?

I know we won't, but just interested to know if people think we should.

 

not at all

[Wilson]

Obvious disappointment to lose out on a player to a desperate offer from a club who have already shown they are prepared to throw silly money around.

It's led to some anger and criticism of our transfer policy, but with regard to this specific case, does anyone think we should go head to head with QPR regarding terms to get this player at any cost ?

I know we won't, but just interested to know if people think we should.

 

Nah, part of me wants to say yes so that we get the player in that we obviously wanted, but aside from actually paying the 80k or whatever, we'd risk unsettling a lot of other players.

 

I'm out.

[TBG]

Greggs.

[Guest Shorty]

This fucking season man!!http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/rant.gif

 

Gutted to be fair but i do agree with us not breaking our wage structure (especially not for this Mercenary)

 

Hopefully we have other targets lined up.

[steve_69]

As a few on here have already said, i'm not that bothered about missing out on Remy because I don't know that much about him. What makes me anxious is that we've spent the best part of two weeks working on the transfer and we might now end up with no striker to replace Ba.

Seems like there are some other decent options out there but i don't have a lot of confidence in the chuckle brothers to get one of them over the line.

[sugoinufc]

Newcastle United rocked by late blow on Loic Remy transfer

by Mark Douglas, The JournalJan 15 2013

 

NEWCASTLE United were dealt a major setback in the transfer market last night as QPR staged an 11th-hour hijack of their move for France striker Loïc Rémy.

 

The club have been left frustrated and angered by QPR’s late intervention and Rémy’s remarkable volte face, which has sent them back to a pool of targets that includes Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Bafetimbi Gomis.

 

United believed that they had done enough to secure an £8.3million move for Rémy on Sunday – and the move was significantly advanced enough for the forward to call Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa to ask for their take on matters at St James’ Park.

 

But the player’s representatives met relegation-threatened QPR late on Sunday night and were made an eye-watering offer of £80,000-a-week plus bonuses that has swayed Remy in favour of a move to the ailing South London club.

 

He is expected to be announced as a QPR player imminently.

 

United insiders are telling The Journal they were ready to “move on” to other targets.

 

Marseille sporting director Jose Anigo confirmed QPR had agreed a fee and said last night: “I don’t think Rémy has shut the door on QPR, as has been said everywhere.”

 

 

Rémy had not officially signed for either club last night but a senior United source told The Journal the club confirmed they expected the player to sign for QPR.

 

It would be a bitter blow for Newcastle, who have spent most of January pursuing Remy, but if he opts for Loftus Road it would say much about the player’s motivation.

 

United will certainly not be prepared to offer a similar contract to QPR, which would include a low release clause in case the club are relegated.

 

They will move on to other targets, with St Etienne’s Aubameyang moving to the head of United’s targets.

 

Lyon striker Gomis is another target that United have been tracking this month.

 

Although it may result in disappointment this time, United’s policy of managing their finances – and not allowing players to dictate wages – has been a common theme of Mike Ashley’s time in charge. A difficult deal was always going to be made tougher by the presence of so many agents.

 

News of Remy’s potential change of heart began to break on Monday afternoon, and was sent into fever pitch by Joey Barton Tweeting that he had been told the player was now signing for QPR.

 

Meanwhile, United’s mercurial star Hatem Ben Arfa has given an interview to La Parisien newspaper in which he spoke of his desire to play for PSG in the future.

 

That was backed up by later comments to BeIn Sport in France, where he said PSG was the “club of his heart”.

 

“After I have saved my club, you never know. Signing for PSG would be a childhood dream,” he said. “If there is a proposal, I will study it with interest. If there is a proposal. The ‘if’ is important.

 

“PSG is a club that lives in my heart. To play would be a nice gift.”

 

A move is very unlikely any time soon, with Ben Arfa considered by the hierarchy to be one of Newcastle’s crown jewels. He has never spoken about leaving and admitted it was far from his mind.

 

He said: “I am under contract with Newcastle and I’m fine. First, I must save my club. I only think of that.

 

“I will help my team and my coach (manager Alan Pardew), with whom I get along great. We really want to fight for him. The fans are great too.”

 

Pardew wants Ben Arfa back for the Tottenham game at the end of the month but the forward believes it is more likely to be mid-February when he returns.

 

“I should be able to resume in mid-February,” he said.

 

“I heal from Monday to Friday at the medical centre at Clairefontaine.

 

“Morale is good because I’m in Paris with family. But when I see the (Newcastle) games on television, it is not easy. The team needs all players and it is almost relegation

 

 

 

Read more: Journal Live http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/01/15/newcastle-united-rocked-by-late-blow-on-loic-remy-transfer-61634-32599889/#ixzz2I2717WO1

 

can´t see gomis and cisse being a good partnership. Although i think gomis is a good player...he is similar to cisse i think.

[David Icke - Son of God]

People who whinge about losing out on Remy don't understand that if we did match QPR's offer we'd have a dressing room full of players all on the phone to their agents telling them to get us to give them a better deal.

[AlanSkÃrare]

I don't want a partnership. I want someone who can and is willing to play on the wing AND with Cissé as a front 2.

 

Therefore I can't see any logic in bringing in Graham or Gomis.

 

Remy had those qualifications.

[The College Dropout]

The Mercenary lark is funny though. Anyone here would go anywhere that played them 25% more.

[Colos Curls]

Dissapointed, only thing im angry about is the inevitable sky sports article claiming harry sweet talked him into joining qpr, hes such a lovable old scamp, Bollocks!

 

They've thrown money and the agents eyes have lit up

[Dave]

People who whinge about losing out on Remy don't understand that if we did match QPR's offer we'd have a dressing room full of players all on the phone to their agents telling them to get us to give them a better deal.

 

Did that happen with Coloccini?

[Benwell Lad]

People who whinge about losing out on Remy don't understand that if we did match QPR's offer we'd have a dressing room full of players all on the phone to their agents telling them to get us to give them a better deal.

 

Did that happen with Coloccini?

 

I think even pro footballers will understand that some players deserve the contracts they get and very few would quibble with Colo's deal knowing his quality and value to the club.

Giving such a deal to someone who has never set foot in the PL yet and is coming from the bench in France would be an altogether different thing.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I made the mistake of talking about this with a Man U fan. He reckons it's just sour grapes, so I asked him to consider if a player would sign for Man United or Man City and if they still chose to go to Man United for less money, why they would do it. Man United have more prestige was the answer. So aye, apparently we don't have enough more prestige than QPR to justify coming here for less money than going there.

 

Others saying, it's like a worse company offering you more money, you'd go with the more money. I'm so fucking sick of this argument. It's not accountancy, no one dreams of working in an office. It's football ffs. Kids don't play on the streets thinking about wages and get out clauses. Fucking abhorrent man. 

[Sima]

I made the mistake of talking about this with a Man U fan. He reckons it's just sour grapes, so I asked him to consider if a player would sign for Man United or Man City and if they still chose to go to Man United for less money, why they would do it. Man United have more prestige was the answer. So aye, apparently we don't have enough more prestige than QPR to justify coming here for less money than going there.

 

Others saying, it's like a worse company offering you more money, you'd go with the more money. I'm so fucking sick of this argument. It's not accountancy, no one dreams of working in an office. It's football ffs. Kids don't play on the streets thinking about wages and get out clauses. Fucking abhorrent man. 

 

They probably do now tbf

[The College Dropout]

People who whinge about losing out on Remy don't understand that if we did match QPR's offer we'd have a dressing room full of players all on the phone to their agents telling them to get us to give them a better deal.

 

Did that happen with Coloccini?

 

He's our captain. And there was rumours he took a bit of a pay cut in exchange for a longer deal. We've pretty much signed him up on first team wages for probably a season or so, maybe even 2 when he's gone a bit past it.

 

If we where going to give 80k to anyone, it should've been Demba. QPR can't sustain their transfer policy, i'm certain of it.

 

What we do is bring in CL quality players from abroad, give them PL wages and a chance to shine. Play well like Ba/HBA and we might give you something close to PL CL wages or you'll be sold to a team that can. Where's Remy's motivation financially at QPR? He'll not get bigger wages anywhere, possibly ever. I'm sure they've got 6-7 players on 50k+ deals and you simply can't sustain that unless you sell big names or are in the CL.

[sugoinufc]

I don't want a partnership. I want someone who can and is willing to play on the wing AND with Cissé as a front 2.

 

Therefore I can't see any logic in bringing in Graham or Gomis.

 

Remy had those qualifications.

 

agree.

[Toonpack]

 

He's our captain. And there was rumours he took a bit of a pay cut in exchange for a longer deal. We've pretty much signed him up on first team wages for probably a season or so, maybe even 2 when he's gone a bit past it.

 

If we where going to give 80k to anyone, it should've been Demba. QPR can't sustain their transfer policy, i'm certain of it.

 

What we do is bring in CL quality players from abroad, give them PL wages and a chance to shine. Play well like Ba/HBA and we might give you something close to PL CL wages or you'll be sold to a team that can. Where's Remy's motivation financially at QPR? He'll not get bigger wages anywhere, possibly ever. I'm sure they've got 6-7 players on 50k+ deals and you simply can't sustain that unless you sell big names or are in the CL.

 

They offered Demba £80k/week, he turned it down.

[Guest taps01]

I'm over it lets move on to the next disappointment.

[The College Dropout]

I made the mistake of talking about this with a Man U fan. He reckons it's just sour grapes, so I asked him to consider if a player would sign for Man United or Man City and if they still chose to go to Man United for less money, why they would do it. Man United have more prestige was the answer. So aye, apparently we don't have enough more prestige than QPR to justify coming here for less money than going there.

 

Others saying, it's like a worse company offering you more money, you'd go with the more money. I'm so f***ing sick of this argument. It's not accountancy, no one dreams of working in an office. It's football ffs. Kids don't play on the streets thinking about wages and get out clauses. f***ing abhorrent man. 

 

They probably do now tbf

 

1. We may have more "prestige" but you aren't any more likely to win trophies at Newcastle than you are at QPR.

 

2. Man Utd. lost Hazard to Chelsea. Aye, Chelsea won the CL but i'm sure it came down to money. Man Utd./Arsenal are the best places for young players in England.

 

Let's say QPR offered £20k more than us. If it's a reported £80k I would think the figure would be closer to £40k. Anyway, that's over a million pounds a year. 4 million over the life of the contract. Any player from abroad would do that. 90% of players would go to Newcastle at 80k than Liverpool at £60k.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Not a nice situation, whatsoever. I'm on the side that thinks Remy would have been good for us.

 

But I can't blame the club or management for the deal being hijacked.

 

But they are to blame for the desperation that losing out, on him, puts us in.

 

One shred of confidence, I have, is Mike Ashley is no mug when it comes to cash. Whatever we think about Sports Direct...he's got that company to the point it has all but wiped out the competition, across the UK!

 

So I can't see him risking being relegated and missing out on next season's windfall. Not now that he's seen what the lack of investment in the summer has done.

 

He bought Cisse, last January, to help us push on. I think he will try and try to get bodies in. I think (hope) this window will be a good one. Gulp.

 

Same here, gutting about Remy but I'm hoping Aubemeyang was a genuine option.

 

CB also desperately needed.

[The College Dropout]

 

He's our captain. And there was rumours he took a bit of a pay cut in exchange for a longer deal. We've pretty much signed him up on first team wages for probably a season or so, maybe even 2 when he's gone a bit past it.

 

If we where going to give 80k to anyone, it should've been Demba. QPR can't sustain their transfer policy, i'm certain of it.

 

What we do is bring in CL quality players from abroad, give them PL wages and a chance to shine. Play well like Ba/HBA and we might give you something close to PL CL wages or you'll be sold to a team that can. Where's Remy's motivation financially at QPR? He'll not get bigger wages anywhere, possibly ever. I'm sure they've got 6-7 players on 50k+ deals and you simply can't sustain that unless you sell big names or are in the CL.

 

They offered Demba £80k/week, he turned it down.

 

Aye, well Remy's no Demba anyway.

[Lotus]

NUFC are both in a relegation battle. QPR are deeper in it, it has to be said, but we're in it too. They also have a better manager. So, from the outside looking in, 2 clubs down the bottom of the division have approached him, one's offered him more money and a relegation release clause.