TRon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 What's been our behaviour since he signed on loan? To generally make it clear that this isn't a big enough club to keep top players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Oh right. I'm not saying we're going to get him, clearly he could easily go wherever the money is or a couple of positions higher. But to be fair to the club he has nearly signed for us permanently very recently already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Basically what those guys said. We've acted small-time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ultimately deciding to go to a team that were at the basement of the PL. The real difficulty is, if you're a good player why would you stay at NUFC? No obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Oh right. I'm not saying we're going to get him, clearly he could easily go wherever the money is or a couple of positions higher. But to be fair to the club he has nearly signed for us permanently very recently already. Nearly? Shit man, quick, monitor the fuck out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ultimately deciding to go to a team that were at the basement of the PL. The real difficulty is, if you're a good player why would you stay at NUFC? No obvious reasons. There are quite a lot of reasons TBH, we just choose to ignore them on here in favour of overemphasising the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Seriously what are they? Shine a light on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ian, the only way he'll come to us is if the plethora of clubs better than us, who will spend more than us, want to finish higher than us and want to win some sort of cup, didn't try and sign him. If we're the only club in for him, then we'll get him. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not sure it's worth it TBH. The normal stuff that everyone dismisses... top half in one of the best leagues, massive ground, great fans, decent enough wages, etc etc. Basically we're still a very respectable PL club, and we massively exaggerate the down side for the majority of players on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ian, top half of the PL?! Wow. 'Decent' wages?! This is a 27 year old France international, looking to play in the WC and cement his place in his national side, play in European competition, win something... We don;t tick any of those boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm not saying we'll get him. But for a player who wants to be in England and isn't good enough for the elite clubs, we're a good option. Whether Remy could play for one of the very top clubs, and/or they would want him, I can't say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not sure it's worth it TBH. The normal stuff that everyone dismisses... top half in one of the best leagues, massive ground, great fans, decent enough wages, etc etc. Basically we're still a very respectable PL club, and we massively exaggerate the down side for the majority of players on this forum. Ok well I think there is probably a hierachy of needs for a footballer. Top Concern is probably money. Next probably is competitiveness, chances of success. Then Stadium and Fans. Again if you're a good player, why stay at NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You're probably right, but I think we exaggerate the difference between us and other non-elite clubs when we talk about competitiveness. I don't think a player coming in from Europe is going to know that Alan Pardew said in the Northern Echo that he prioritises the league over the cup. Anyway, this could go on forever, I agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 In a nutshell I'd be surprised if Remy stayed with us. I think he will either go to a club that will pay him more money or a more successful club (who will probably pay him more money). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 In a nutshell I'd be surprised if Remy stayed with us. I think he will either go to a club that will pay him more money or a more successful club (who will probably pay him more money). I'd be quite surprised if he stayed with us as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't dispute that we are able to sign some good players. I think our difficulty arises in keeping them for a prolonged period. This obviously makes it hard to build much and progress. Probably why people have no patience with the MA approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't dispute that we are able to sign some good players. I think our difficulty arises in keeping them for a prolonged period. This obviously makes it hard to build much and progress. Probably why people have no patience with the MA approach. Ah right, cool, I don't disagree with that. On the losing players thing, I would put it down to about 70% a function of not being in the CL and about 30% down to Ashley's approach. Obviously we will sell players for big money, but we know nearly every club does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Anyway like I said, it will be interesting to see how Pardew sets us up next year without Remy to score goals from nowhere. I can't see Ashley spending money on that sort of quality so we may well go down the Allardyce route and go back to a Nolan/Carroll type partnership. This should suit Pardew and Ashley as it will mean lower wages and a good crack at the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ian, the only way he'll come to us is if the plethora of clubs better than us, who will spend more than us, want to finish higher than us and want to win some sort of cup,didn't try and sign him. If we're the only club in for him, then we'll get him. That's it. If we offer him more money he'll be here, if someoe else does he'll go there. Assuming we'll offer him what we're currently paying (£80k) I can see plenty of Premier League clubs unwilling/unable to pay that. But obviously plenty who can and likely will. Lets face it he'll very likely go elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ian, the only way he'll come to us is if the plethora of clubs better than us, who will spend more than us, want to finish higher than us and want to win some sort of cup,didn't try and sign him. If we're the only club in for him, then we'll get him. That's it. If we offer him more money he'll be here, if someoe else does he'll go there. Assuming we'll offer him what we're currently paying (£80k) I can see plenty of Premier League clubs unwilling/unable to pay that. But obviously plenty who can and likely will. Lets face it he'll very likely go elsewhere. We aren't known as being a club that pays higher wages than others. Quite the opposite, in fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ian, the only way he'll come to us is if the plethora of clubs better than us, who will spend more than us, want to finish higher than us and want to win some sort of cup,didn't try and sign him. If we're the only club in for him, then we'll get him. That's it. If we offer him more money he'll be here, if someoe else does he'll go there. Assuming we'll offer him what we're currently paying (£80k) I can see plenty of Premier League clubs unwilling/unable to pay that. But obviously plenty who can and likely will. Lets face it he'll very likely go elsewhere. We aren't known as being a club that pays higher wages than others. Quite the opposite, in fact. We aren't known for big wages no, but there are still plenty of clubs who spend less than us on wages and plenty who are very unlikely to beat an offer of £80k per week (no point in offering him less than we're paying him now after all). Really just depends on whether the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City, Tottenham or Chelsea come in, if so we've got no chance. Like I said he'll probably go elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bugger - out for 3 games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Seasons our anyway. Was fun while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Shit news. Be grand to think Cisse might finally get his head together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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