Loïc Remy

[Parky]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

[Benwell Lad]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

I think NUFC fans would have been a lot more angry had we been outbid by a sane football club.

[David Icke - Son of God]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

[Parky]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

I don't really have many hard feelings against the player himself, he's entitled to seek the greatest rewards from his career if that's what he values. We just had to hope that the appeal of our French legion would be enough to sway him, which it seems it wasn't.

[Guest neesy111]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Doesn't matter how clever or not they are if their teams get relegated.

[Skirge]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

That is not really protection though.. Remy £8m and then lose him for free if they go down.. £8m for 5 months. Still crazy shit.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

 

Aye, not just Remy though, they have another load of players they can't afford if they go down.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

That is not really protection though.. Remy £8m and then lose him for free if they go down.. £8m for 5 months. Still crazy shit.

 

True, but at least they wouldn't have the wages to pay.

[brummie]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

I think you're both arguing the same thing.

[Parky]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

[ExiledGeordie]

 

The problem with buying players in January is clubs dont want to sell their better players so you have to offer above their market value to persuade clubs to sell.  We have very clearly demonstrated that we will not go down that road so I simply cannot see us signing any players of note in January, Debuchy aside.

 

 

The utter folly of not buying players in the summer

[Dave]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

They are reportedly paying £80k per week, about double what we offered.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

I don't doubt this, they've rolled the dice and if they survive they'll continue to spend big to get players in. The shit hits the fan if they go down.

[Parky]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

Nothing we can do. We have to stick to our wage structure, but that doesn't mean fernandes and qpr are monkeys like some are trying to say...

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

You could equally say that a lack of principles is fine if you can afford it.

 

Whats the answer then? Genuine question as to how you think we go forward this January.

[brummie]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

I think you're both arguing the same thing.

 

Posssibly

 

I am just super wary now, after our recent experience, of getting lumbered with high earning, uncommitted players, of the wrong age group.

 

I'd also say that there are only two factors which could possibly swing him to them rather than you, one is London, which you can't change, the other is ££££ which you can change, but there have to be limits.

 

Mind you, lucky you lot even trying to get these signings in. I dread to think of the sort of dross at the end of the market we'll be shopping in.

[Parky]

You could equally say that a lack of principles is fine if you can afford it.

 

Whats the answer then? Genuine question as to how you think we go forward this January.

 

We still have time to get players in. There are plenty of strikers out there -  if we're seriously looking and know what's going on.

It would have been wrong to give into 80k a week and that's the end of it.

[Benwell Lad]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

 

A deal comprising a ten million plus euro transfer fee plus the players/agents contract and fees, for what would be four months work if, as the bookmakers think they will go down, would seriously contradict what you said about Fernandez a couple of posts ago.

There will be a release clause but a free would be pure mental.

But hey, if he's the golden nugget that's going to keep them up, well done QPR.

[ExiledGeordie]

 

The true calamity of this situation despite the knock back will be if we fail to bring an alternative in. I think even Ashley and Llambias must realise this will be virtual football suicide if they don't. They can't be that stupid can they?

[arnonel]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

The true calamity of this situation despite the knock back will be if we fail to bring an alternative in. I think even Ashley and Llambias must realise this will be virtual football suicide if they don't. They can't be that stupid can they?

 

I don't think so, hence trying to buy Remy in the first place. They can't risk next season's TV money.

[Parky]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

 

A deal comprising a ten million plus euro transfer fee plus the players/agents contract and fees, for what would be four months work if, as the bookmakers think they will go down, would seriously contradict what you said about Fernandez a couple of posts ago.

There will be a release clause but a free would be pure mental.

But hey, if he's the golden nugget that's going to keep them up, well done QPR.

 

To put it bluntly if they get the 2 french players and with Harry at it...Their chance of survival just became better than ours at this moment. IF we don't perform in this window we'll go down.