Loïc Remy

[Guest chopey]

I tend to believe the article in NUFC.com today that by the time Remy makes his debut Pardew will be gone

[NG32]

Its every bloody summer man, i gave them the benefit of the doubt last season...and guess what happens again. 

[thomas]

Another Machiavellian scheme coming to fruition for Bond-level evil-genius Ashley. Is there no end to his bloodthirsty quest to p*ss off support?

 

Kind of agree with this sentiment.

 

I get the impression that they feel the squad, though thin, should be more than strong enough to yield a decent return this season. I reckon if they can get a bargain (or two) "over the line", then fine, if not the only addition before the next transfer window will be a new manager (mid September IMO if we carry on last seasons form).

Yeah. I mean, make no mistake, we're run by expert level clowns. And IMO the stupidity of their actions is more consistent with incompetence than it is maliciousness. Ashley/Kinnear/Pardew are not out to annoy anyone; annoyance happens because their decisions are so goddamn stupid, not deliberately agitating.

[Guest JS]

He'll probably play Ben Arfa up front by himself or with Shola in some sort of 4-4-2. This news doesn't surprise me in the slightest

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He'll probably play Ben Arfa up front by himself or with Shola in some sort of 4-4-2. This news doesn't surprise me in the slightest

 

False 9! The way forward.

[Dr Venkman]

That would have been Gomis if his club/agent weren't acting the cunt, I assume. But, that's besides my point. More just taking issue with the 'ffs dis club' posts on the back of the injury news. Most people seemed pretty happy when he signed, as far as I remember.

 

The DoF has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

The manager has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone who has the power of observation has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone seems to recognise this need.

 

We bring in a loan signing (in itself not a bad thing) that can't play for at least a month of the opening campaign. Something we knew about when we signed him. If not then it's even more embarrassing.

 

'ffs dis club' is not a bad way to look at it. Woefully bad planning compounded by seemingly putting all our eggs in the basket of a player who can't play.

 

Excellent work.

 

Not surprised people are 'ffs dis club'.

 

 

 

Like I said, we'd have had Gomis too, but for thrid parties acting the cunt. We should have had another striker in, long before now. I'm not disputing that at all.

 

We'd have had Gomis if we'd paid the money to make it happen.

 

That's true. But, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd have been with being bent over by them/his agent (whatever the situation was). That's hard to accept when we've been left short for the start of the season, I appreciate. However, I can't really blame the club in this case.

 

You'd have been uncomfortable? Why? I'd rather we had some good players in the team than taking pride in our bank balance.

[Guest JS]

He'll probably play Ben Arfa up front by himself or with Shola in some sort of 4-4-2. This news doesn't surprise me in the slightest

 

False 9! The way forward.

 

I don't think Pardew knows what a false 9 is He'll end up lumped forward by himself or some shit

[Guest icemanblue]

That would have been Gomis if his club/agent weren't acting the cunt, I assume. But, that's besides my point. More just taking issue with the 'ffs dis club' posts on the back of the injury news. Most people seemed pretty happy when he signed, as far as I remember.

 

The DoF has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

The manager has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone who has the power of observation has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone seems to recognise this need.

 

We bring in a loan signing (in itself not a bad thing) that can't play for at least a month of the opening campaign. Something we knew about when we signed him. If not then it's even more embarrassing.

 

'ffs dis club' is not a bad way to look at it. Woefully bad planning compounded by seemingly putting all our eggs in the basket of a player who can't play.

 

Excellent work.

 

Not surprised people are 'ffs dis club'.

 

 

 

Like I said, we'd have had Gomis too, but for thrid parties acting the cunt. We should have had another striker in, long before now. I'm not disputing that at all.

 

We'd have had Gomis if we'd paid the money to make it happen.

 

That's true. But, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd have been with being bent over by them/his agent (whatever the situation was). That's hard to accept when we've been left short for the start of the season, I appreciate. However, I can't really blame the club in this case.

 

You'd have been uncomfortable? Why? I'd rather we had some good players on the team than taking pride in our bank balance.

 

Why? Because we'd agreed a fee, as well as terms with the player. Then they wanted us to pay the sell on fee to his former club, or whatever. It's bollocks behaviour, and I'm glad we took a stand. It's more a point of principle, than any concern for our bank balance. I know I'm not the only one to have said this, like.

 

In any case, I still think he'll end up here. They'll be far less bullish in their demands now time is running out.

[TheHoob]

Going into another season with only one fit striker yet some people are happy because we've not been 'held to ransom' 

 

I'm sure we've scouted more strikers than Gomis, no excuses whatsoever.

[Disco]

He'll probably play Ben Arfa up front by himself or with Shola in some sort of 4-4-2. This news doesn't surprise me in the slightest

 

False 9! The way forward.

 

I don't think Pardew knows what a false 9 is He'll end up lumped forward by himself or some shit

 

Played it against Anzhi away. Ben Arfa fluffed the one chance he had.

[Incognito]

Going into another season with only one fit striker yet some people are happy because we've not been 'held to ransom' 

 

I'm sure we've scouted more strikers than Gomis, no excuses whatsoever.

 

I sympathise with the point but still time before the window slams shut. We should be ready now though ideally, I agree.

[Heake]

Whilst I cant disagree that we really need another "proper" centre forward, the problem, & its been a re-occurring theme on this forum for a while, is the lack of creativity. I cant remember too many times last season when I`ve sat head in hands wondering how we`ve missed so many excellent chances. Sure there`s been times when we`ve looked decent, but in the main Cisse has looked isolated & if we cant make the by-line & put one in, we've been fucked: There's been nothing down the middle.

 

Bizarrely, I`m more inclined to accept that, though it lacks depth, the squad is over par on quality, it just lacks the coaching to provide a cohesive threat up top.

 

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Whilst I cant disagree that we really need another "proper" centre forward, the problem, & its been a re-occurring theme on this forum for a while, is the lack of creativity. I cant remember too many times last season when I`ve sat head in hands wondering how we`ve missed so many excellent chances. Sure there`s been times when we`ve looked decent, but in the main Cisse has looked isolated & if we cant make the by-line & put one in, we've been fucked: There's been nothing down the middle.

 

Bizarrely, I`m more inclined to accept that, though it lacks depth, the squad is over par on quality, it just lacks the coaching to provide a cohesive threat up top.

 

 

I think it's the lack of off-the-ball movement that is the biggest issue. Hopefully Pardew is working on that, and also Remy might provide more fluidity.

[Dr Venkman]

That would have been Gomis if his club/agent weren't acting the cunt, I assume. But, that's besides my point. More just taking issue with the 'ffs dis club' posts on the back of the injury news. Most people seemed pretty happy when he signed, as far as I remember.

 

The DoF has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

The manager has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone who has the power of observation has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone seems to recognise this need.

 

We bring in a loan signing (in itself not a bad thing) that can't play for at least a month of the opening campaign. Something we knew about when we signed him. If not then it's even more embarrassing.

 

'ffs dis club' is not a bad way to look at it. Woefully bad planning compounded by seemingly putting all our eggs in the basket of a player who can't play.

 

Excellent work.

 

Not surprised people are 'ffs dis club'.

 

 

 

Like I said, we'd have had Gomis too, but for thrid parties acting the cunt. We should have had another striker in, long before now. I'm not disputing that at all.

 

We'd have had Gomis if we'd paid the money to make it happen.

 

That's true. But, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd have been with being bent over by them/his agent (whatever the situation was). That's hard to accept when we've been left short for the start of the season, I appreciate. However, I can't really blame the club in this case.

 

You'd have been uncomfortable? Why? I'd rather we had some good players on the team than taking pride in our bank balance.

 

Why? Because we'd agreed a fee, as well as terms with the player. Then they wanted us to pay the sell on fee to his former club, or whatever. It's bollocks behaviour, and I'm glad we took a stand. It's more a point of principle, than any concern for our bank balance. I know I'm not the only one to have said this, like.

 

In any case, I still think he'll end up here. They'll be far less bullish in their demands now time is running out.

 

As a matter of principle I think we deserve much better than we're getting. Pardew, Kinnear, lack of investment when the whole league is awash with money. It's total bullshit and I absolutely cannot wait for Ashley to fuck off, or die.

 

I'd sleep soundly if we paid an extra million here or there to play the game with agents, it'd improve our chances of winning football matches, what else are we in it for?

 

This interest in getting a bargain or not giving into agents demands or whatever is mission accomplished for Ashley as far as I'm concerned. We've been collectively lulled into thinking that we exist as a club solely to nurse financial health, the fans aren't bothered if we're getting absolutely embarrassed at home to the mackems and Liverpool as long as we uphold our principles in the transfer market. I'm ashamed to be associated with them tbh.

[Guest icemanblue]

Aye, that's all very admirable. Don't even disagree with most of it, except for the last paragraph. But, we're getting even further away from my point, and this isn't the thread for the discussion it's now become.

[Dinho lad]

How is it the club's fault he's injured, like?

 

It's not, but the club have had this habit of predicting x player will be out for y weeks/months and then, z weeks later, they tell us that he's out for longer than that. Maybe the club see this as some sort of way of "softening" the blow.

 

Load of rubbish, anyway.

[ujpest doza]

Whilst I cant disagree that we really need another "proper" centre forward, the problem, & its been a re-occurring theme on this forum for a while, is the lack of creativity. I cant remember too many times last season when I`ve sat head in hands wondering how we`ve missed so many excellent chances. Sure there`s been times when we`ve looked decent, but in the main Cisse has looked isolated & if we cant make the by-line & put one in, we've been fucked: There's been nothing down the middle.

 

Bizarrely, I`m more inclined to accept that, though it lacks depth, the squad is over par on quality, it just lacks the coaching to provide a cohesive threat up top.

 

 

 

Creativity is not just the job of the midfield though.

If they don't have forwards making runs and creating space they can't create chances for the forwards.

 

[Dr Venkman]

Aye, that's all very admirable. Don't even disagree with most of it, except for the last paragraph. But, we're getting even further away from my point, and this isn't the thread for the discussion it's now become.

 

Are we getting further away from your point, or getting to the heart of it? You think the principle of not paying out extra fees comes above the principle of punching our weight in the league and giving the fans the team they deserve, or have I misunderstood? We can afford the extra money they're asking for, you know it, I know it. We're choosing not to.

[Anderson]

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http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130815/whats-in-a-number_2281670_3349419

[Dave]

That would have been Gomis if his club/agent weren't acting the cunt, I assume. But, that's besides my point. More just taking issue with the 'ffs dis club' posts on the back of the injury news. Most people seemed pretty happy when he signed, as far as I remember.

 

The DoF has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

The manager has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone who has the power of observation has been bleating on about how important it is for us to bring in strikers.

 

Everyone seems to recognise this need.

 

We bring in a loan signing (in itself not a bad thing) that can't play for at least a month of the opening campaign. Something we knew about when we signed him. If not then it's even more embarrassing.

 

'ffs dis club' is not a bad way to look at it. Woefully bad planning compounded by seemingly putting all our eggs in the basket of a player who can't play.

 

Excellent work.

 

Not surprised people are 'ffs dis club'.

 

 

 

Like I said, we'd have had Gomis too, but for thrid parties acting the cunt. We should have had another striker in, long before now. I'm not disputing that at all.

 

We'd have had Gomis if we'd paid the money to make it happen.

 

That's true. But, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd have been with being bent over by them/his agent (whatever the situation was). That's hard to accept when we've been left short for the start of the season, I appreciate. However, I can't really blame the club in this case.

 

You'd have been uncomfortable? Why? I'd rather we had some good players on the team than taking pride in our bank balance.

 

Why? Because we'd agreed a fee, as well as terms with the player. Then they wanted us to pay the sell on fee to his former club, or whatever. It's bollocks behaviour, and I'm glad we took a stand. It's more a point of principle, than any concern for our bank balance. I know I'm not the only one to have said this, like.

 

In any case, I still think he'll end up here. They'll be far less bullish in their demands now time is running out.

 

As a matter of principle I think we deserve much better than we're getting. Pardew, Kinnear, lack of investment when the whole league is awash with money. It's total bullshit and I absolutely cannot wait for Ashley to fuck off, or die.

 

I'd sleep soundly if we paid an extra million here or there to play the game with agents, it'd improve our chances of winning football matches, what else are we in it for?

 

This interest in getting a bargain or not giving into agents demands or whatever is mission accomplished for Ashley as far as I'm concerned. We've been collectively lulled into thinking that we exist as a club solely to nurse financial health, the fans aren't bothered if we're getting absolutely embarrassed at home to the mackems and Liverpool as long as we uphold our principles in the transfer market. I'm ashamed to be associated with them tbh.

 

Nailed it.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I mean, nobody would every disagree with such a simple argument. Obviously, if we could just overpay here and there in order to finish higher up the league then everyone would be in favour.

 

The whole point is (a) that it's not as simple as that, evidenced by the amount of money wasted in the transfer market and on agent fees etc. And (b) that some people believe the club is right not to be taken for a mug by everyone we deal with, as was the case in the past.

[Guest icemanblue]

Aye, that's all very admirable. Don't even disagree with most of it, except for the last paragraph. But, we're getting even further away from my point, and this isn't the thread for the discussion it's now become.

 

Are we getting further away from your point, or getting to the heart of it? You think the principle of not paying out extra fees comes above the principle of punching our weight in the league and giving the fans the team they deserve, or have I misunderstood? We can afford the extra money they're asking for, you know it, I know it. We're choosing not to.

 

That wasn't my point. I was on about the club being blamed for signing an injured player, then making the point that we'd have had Gomis in, but for...

 

But, yes, you've misunderstood. I've no issue at all with us spending over the odds on players who can help us improve. In fact, I wish we would do it more often. In this instance, however, because of the behaviour of those involved, I'm ok with us choosing not to.

[Benwell Lad]

but it is typical of the club to move slower in the transfer market than a three legged tortoise in a tar pool. we've known since january that we've needed to bring at least one striker in this summer, bringing Remy in on loan is fair enough but surely we should have a list of strikers with more than just Gomis name on? 

 

.....as opposed to big clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal who all got their primary targets "over the line" ages ago. Oh hang on... they haven't ?

Do yourself a favour mate and save the grief for September 2nd, it'll all come out in the wash in the last few days and then, weaker or stronger, is the best time to make judgement. Does wonders for blood pressure and general health just to ignore the bullshit until then.

[Dr Venkman]

I mean, nobody would every disagree with such a simple argument. Obviously, if we could just overpay here and there in order to finish higher up the league then everyone would be in favour.

 

The whole point is (a) that it's not as simple as that, evidenced by the amount of money wasted in the transfer market and on agent fees etc. And (b) that some people believe the club is right not to be taken for a mug by everyone we deal with, as was the case in the past.

 

Ian, it is as simple as that. Pay money, the likes of an extra couple of million for this Gomis deal we can definitely afford, and give ourselves a better chance of winning games. Or take pleasure in getting bargains instead of winning football matches. What are you in it for?

 

Our problems in the past weren't the money we paid, they were who we paid it for. You talk about wasted money, it's not wasted if you get the right manager and the right players. We've got a great scout, why don't we back him?

[Dr Venkman]

but it is typical of the club to move slower in the transfer market than a three legged tortoise in a tar pool. we've known since january that we've needed to bring at least one striker in this summer, bringing Remy in on loan is fair enough but surely we should have a list of strikers with more than just Gomis name on? 

 

.....as opposed to big clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal who all got their primary targets "over the line" ages ago. Oh hang on... they haven't ?

Do yourself a favour mate and save the grief for September 2nd, it'll all come out in the wash in the last few days and then, weaker or stronger, is the best time to make judgement. Does wonders for blood pressure and general health just to ignore the bullshit until then.

 

Why can't we treat the transfer activity as it is? An ongoing policy over many seasons, rather than designating a cutoff point at which we're allowed to be concerned? We can judge the clubs transfer policy today, it won't change