Loïc Remy

[Dokko]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

[Wullie]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Does it beat spending money on good players?

 

Again, why is Graham Carr still in employment if we don't trust his judgement on even an £8m striker, which by Premier League standards is below average?

[Dokko]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

It is as simple as spending money, really. You need to make the right purchases, obviously, but you need to actually make money available and be prepared to pay the going rate for the players that you so desperately need, not just hunt around the bargain bin in the hope you can find a gem.  I'm entirely grateful for the likes of Sissoko, Cabaye and Mbiwa on the cheap, I really am, but when these deals are all you rely on every window you're never going to realistically build a proper squad, you'll always be left short.

 

Had we paid full whack for those players we wouldn't be signing anyone for the next 2 windows. 

I think we did really well with those signings like and I hope we continue to make similar purchases going forward. I just think (actually I know) we need to splash out and actually build a proper squad first capable of competing at a high level, not just in the league but in Europe and the cups too. We add our bargains afterwards.

 

I think we need to spend about £40m personally. We need a top quality winger and central midfielder as well as another striker as back-up for Cisse and Remy, the defence needs experience back up too, especially at centre back and right back, and obviously another keeper. We'll probably get those things paying £2-£7m here and there over the next 2-3 seasons by which point we'll be needing to plug up more holes

 

[captainhaircut]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Does it beat spending money on good players?

 

Again, why is Graham Carr still in employment if we don't trust his judgement on even an £8m striker, which by Premier League standards is below average?

 

Which striker is that? Gomis?

 

I think that one got a bit more complicated than the asking price.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Does it beat spending money on good players?

 

Again, why is Graham Carr still in employment if we don't trust his judgement on even an £8m striker, which by Premier League standards is below average?

 

Course not, as I said if it was simple to always sign the right players and move up the league there would be no risk at all.

 

I think we were prepared to pay £8m for Gomis, weren't we? The wrangling seems to be over shadowy agents fees etc.

[Disco]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

In January, Ashley looked like he might be losing a lot of money, now it doesn't. I don't think that is coincidence.

[Dokko]

It is as simple as spending money, really. You need to make the right purchases, obviously, but you need to actually make money available and be prepared to pay the going rate for the players that you so desperately need, not just hunt around the bargain bin in the hope you can find a gem.  I'm entirely grateful for the likes of Sissoko, Cabaye and Mbiwa on the cheap, I really am, but when these deals are all you rely on every window you're never going to realistically build a proper squad, you'll always be left short.

 

Had we paid full whack for those players we wouldn't be signing anyone for the next 2 windows. 

I think we did really well with those signings like and I hope we continue to make similar purchases going forward. I just think (actually I know) we need to splash out and actually build a proper squad first capable of competing at a high level, not just in the league but in Europe and the cups too.

 

I think we need to spend about £40m personally. We need a top quality winger and central midfielder as well as another striker as back-up for Cisse and Remy, the defence needs experience back up too, especially at centre back and right back, and obviously another keeper. We'll probably get those things paying £2-£7m here and there over the next 2-3 seasons by which point we'll be needing to plug up more holes

 

That's dream stuff mate. Until someone else buys the club its not going to happen. And yeah, it might happen over about 6 windows, its the way the club does its deals.

 

You've just got to hope right now enough has been done behind the scenes and it really is about waiting for the selling clubs to fall in to line. If that happens and we get Gomis, a winger or take advantage on the Ajax CB for £5m then we get closer to that squad everyone wants. The club will still be criticized for leaving it so late, and i buy in to that as well, however just buying anyone or paying over the odds is something i've not bought in to for a long time, that died with Shepherd and those with short memories will do well to remember the hidden debts and the direction the club was going under the free spending idiot.

[Dave]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

I have it on good authority that some shoes > no shoes.

[Disco]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

I have it on good authority that some shoes > no shoes.

 

Zola Budd disagrees with this.

[Wullie]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

What the fuck are you on about man? We nearly got relegated and yet haven't bought a single player.

 

How does it matter to you in the slightest whether a player costs £7m or £10m? Either is peanuts to a Premier League club in 2013.

[NG32]

We'll sign players in january again.

 

 

[Dave]

Pay whatever and buy whatever.

 

We haven't paid anything for anyone. Slight difference there.

 

[Hanshithispantz]

It is as simple as spending money, really. You need to make the right purchases, obviously, but you need to actually make money available and be prepared to pay the going rate for the players that you so desperately need, not just hunt around the bargain bin in the hope you can find a gem.  I'm entirely grateful for the likes of Sissoko, Cabaye and Mbiwa on the cheap, I really am, but when these deals are all you rely on every window you're never going to realistically build a proper squad, you'll always be left short.

 

Had we paid full whack for those players we wouldn't be signing anyone for the next 2 windows. 

I think we did really well with those signings like and I hope we continue to make similar purchases going forward. I just think (actually I know) we need to splash out and actually build a proper squad first capable of competing at a high level, not just in the league but in Europe and the cups too.

 

I think we need to spend about £40m personally. We need a top quality winger and central midfielder as well as another striker as back-up for Cisse and Remy, the defence needs experience back up too, especially at centre back and right back, and obviously another keeper. We'll probably get those things paying £2-£7m here and there over the next 2-3 seasons by which point we'll be needing to plug up more holes

 

That's dream stuff mate.

That's the point though init? It shouldn't be dream stuff, it should be the bare minimum at the minute as it's what we desperately need to perform in the competitions we're in/should be hoping to be in.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Nobody benefits from arguing in terms of spend nothing vs spend whatever.

[Wullie]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Does it beat spending money on good players?

 

Again, why is Graham Carr still in employment if we don't trust his judgement on even an £8m striker, which by Premier League standards is below average?

 

Course not, as I said if it was simple to always sign the right players and move up the league there would be no risk at all.

 

I think we were prepared to pay £8m for Gomis, weren't we? The wrangling seems to be over shadowy agents fees etc.

 

Why do we keep pissing our knickers over agent fees? It's part and parcel of football, you have to pay them, everyone else does it without publicising it or whinging about it.

 

It's like moaning about an airline adding admin fees onto your flight. Moan all you like and don't bother out of principle if you wish but if you want to go on holiday, shut the fuck up and pay it.

[Disco]

Didn't seem to have any problems paying vast agent fees to secure other deals n all or going out of our way to sign players because they had a certain agent.

 

I do understand why fans would be hesitant on wanting the club to do so though because they are scum.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

Why do we keep pissing our knickers over agent fees? It's part and parcel of football, you have to pay them, everyone else does it without publicising it or whinging about it.

 

It's like moaning about an airline adding admin fees onto your flight. Moan all you like and don't bother out of principle if you wish but if you want to go on holiday, shut the fuck up and pay it.

 

Well I don't think it's quite a fair analogy, it's not like agent fees are in any way standard. And obviously we don't know the actual details of the deal.

 

Some agents fees are normal, yes. Some are very dodgy and some aren't agents fees at all but other things (loyalty bonuses etc) dressed up to try and make the buying club pay them.

[Dokko]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

What the fuck are you on about man? We nearly got relegated and yet haven't bought a single player.

 

How does it matter to you in the slightest whether a player costs £7m or £10m? Either is peanuts to a Premier League club in 2013.

 

Are you not getting the part that we have a strict budget and won't go over it especially when the club owes Ashley £130m already thanks to the fat retard doing exactly what you want right now?

 

Or do you want us to be more in debt to Ashley? Or blow budgets for the next few windows? Do you operate like that in your life? Just buy houses you can't afford, cars and insurance way above your pay? Nice living for about a year until reality kicks in.

 

Transfers were moved forward in jan, we've spent a fair chunk of this windows money then and now we are looking to squeeze out the best deals and time is running out. That's why I care because come the next window and we need X player in X position we have fuck all money to do it with.

 

Ashley isn't going to change, living within a budget is here to stay until he's gone, so blowing money is exactly the wrong thing to do under him as we will pay for it later. Even adding more debt to him lessens the chances we'll see him gone any time soon.

 

Finally, the club hasn't done enough this season, but it could have all been sorted sacking the manager and bringing in a new face, most of our problems would have been solved right then rather than just buying more players for him to fuck up.

 

[Decky]

We'll sign players in january again.

 

 

 

It could be too little too late this time. The biggest difference this season for me is Joe Kinnear. The man is a ticking time bomb and there will always be doubts and rumours over Pardew throughout the season. If Pardew goes and Kinnear comes in mid-season we're going to be in massive trouble and will probably drop like stone down the league table, that's if we're even high to begin with. As Wullie said we nearly went down last season and we've bought no one of note.

 

I'm seriously worried about relegation this season. The whole Joe Kinnear mess is shades of the relegation season's mistakes and not spending properly this summer (so far) is the same mistake that happened just a year ago. The only thing that will keep us away from the relegation scrap this year is individual performances, and we've seen from last season that our current lot can go missing when it matters.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If we end up with Gomis we've addressed our biggest need quite well I would say. We're fairly well covered in other positions, except maybe wide left.

[Andybiotics]

Signing another top quality striker before this window closes could be the difference between survival and relegation tbh.

[Wullie]

Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different.

 

Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other.

 

 

This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy.

 

Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them.

 

What the fuck are you on about man? We nearly got relegated and yet haven't bought a single player.

 

How does it matter to you in the slightest whether a player costs £7m or £10m? Either is peanuts to a Premier League club in 2013.

 

Are you not getting the part that we have a strict budget and won't go over it especially when the club owes Ashley £130m already thanks to the fat retard doing exactly what you want right now?

 

Or do you want us to be more in debt to Ashley? Or blow budgets for the next few windows? Do you operate like that in your life? Just buy houses you can't afford, cars and insurance way above your pay? Nice living for about a year until reality kicks in.

 

Transfers were moved forward in jan, we've spent a fair chunk of this windows money then and now we are looking to squeeze out the best deals and time is running out. That's why I care because come the next window and we need X player in X position we have fuck all money to do it with.

 

Ashley isn't going to change, living within a budget is here to stay until he's gone, so blowing money is exactly the wrong thing to do under him as we will pay for it later. Even adding more debt to him lessens the chances we'll see him gone any time soon.

 

Finally, the club hasn't done enough this season, but it could have all been sorted sacking the manager and bringing in a new face, most of our problems would have been solved right then rather than just buying more players for him to fuck up.

 

Why would we be in more debt to Ashley? We've just been given a vast windfall by Sky and BT.

 

Do I operate like that in my life? Spending absolutely nothing despite just being given a vast pay rise? No. That would be fucking stupid.

[Hanshithispantz]

Transfers were moved forward in jan, we've spent a fair chunk of this windows money then and now we are looking to squeeze out the best deals and time is running out. That's why I care because come the next window and we need X player in X position we have fuck all money to do it with.

 

And therein lies the problem. Why are we looking at it from a window to window basis instead of just spending whatever we need and assembling the squad we need now, or back then, or whenever? This x amount every window doesn't work because we're constantly playing catch up and buying players that we don't actually need because they were cheap and/or a short term solution.