Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 While I'm not defending him, why single him out over say, Winjaldum? I'm not, I've said exactly the same about Gini if you take a look on his thread. They were both absolutely appalling yesterday. A lot more people in here though. I think Winjaldum has been nothing short of disgraceful for the past month at least. Agent has probably already told him there's interest next season regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 His last goal or assist this season was against Liverpool on the 6th December yet people defend him and say he is our best attacking threat? Jesus wept. An attacking midfielder who hasn't scored or assisted in 4 months, prolific. EDIT - in fact, he hasn't scored a goal all season. He has 5 assists, 3 of them against Norwich. So in effect, he's only been involved in a goal during 3 games in the whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's shit, but that's missing out the bit where there's no one else who scores or assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 While I'm not defending him, why single him out over say, Winjaldum? I'm not, I've said exactly the same about Gini if you take a look on his thread. They were both absolutely appalling yesterday. A lot more people in here though. I think Winjaldum has been nothing short of disgraceful for the past month at least. I think he's probably got fed up being asked to play in a 10 man defence. It's not excusable, but when you compare how Bournemouth were set up to go forward in numbers while we stay in rigid defensive formation, it's not really a surprise when certain players lose enthusiasm. McClaren falling between two stools again as he has done all his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Think the main difference between the criticism him and the likes of Gini, Janmaat get compared to Colback, Taylor et al is that we know how good they can be. As senior, internationally capped pros they should be the ones dragging the team out of the mire. it should be them leading the way and putting in the sweat to inspire others. I am personally fed up of our 'better' players seemingly not giving two s***s and just strolling around. I don't doubt Taylor's effort, I doubt his ability cos he is proven horse poop. For the likes of Sissoko it is legitimate to ask questions over their attitude and application, because the ability is there... Such a f***ing sin that we have a miserable, uninspiring cretin in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 His last goal or assist this season was against Liverpool on the 6th December yet people defend him and say he is our best attacking threat? Jesus wept. An attacking midfielder who hasn't scored or assisted in 4 months, prolific. Largely to do with none of our players being able to head a ball/finish. Is it not clear from watching our games that our only real attacking threat comes from him and Janmaat combining down the right? He's a shit finisher obviously though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's s***, but that's missing out the bit where there's no one else who scores or assists. In comparison, in the same s*** team... Shelvey has been here since January 16th and has 3 assists to his name. So Sissoko has played for us for 5 months more this season and contributed 2 more assists. Also taking into effect that Shelvey plays much deeper and our results have been worse since December, so Sissoko has had more opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Shelvey, aside from a performance or two has been the only one actually trying to make things happen tbf to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Think the main difference between the criticism him and the likes of Gini, Janmaat get compared to Colback, Taylor et al is that we know how good they can be. As senior, internationally capped pros they should be the ones dragging the team out of the mire. it should be them leading the way and putting in the sweat to inspire others. I am personally fed up of our 'better' players seemingly not giving two s***s and just strolling around. I don't doubt Taylor's effort, I doubt his ability cos he is proven horse poop. For the likes of Sissoko it is legitimate to ask questions over their attitude and application, because the ability is there... Such a f***ing sin that we have a miserable, uninspiring cretin in charge. I think your last sentence is all you need to say really. If he's picking players who stroll around and don't give a shit then who's to blame for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 This guy has been here how long now? He should be our best player and the one that delivers for us when we need a lift. He is incredibly poor and we need to move him on if we manage to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's s***, but that's missing out the bit where there's no one else who scores or assists. In comparison, in the same shit team... Shelvey has been here since January 16th and has 3 assists to his name. So Sissoko has played for us for 5 months more this season and contributed 2 more assists. Also taking into effect that Shelvey plays much deeper. Shelvey has been better than Sissoko since he joined but that's not taking into account that Sissoko has to cross the ball into people who can't head the ball while if you split the defence with a pass from deep once in a game there is a massive chance its going to be a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 This guy has been here how long now? He should be our best player and the one that delivers for us when we need a lift. He is incredibly poor and we need to move him on if we manage to stay up. You change your opinion on him basically every week Kaka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've hated his game for ages and you usually have a go at me about it. He's a huge disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's s***, but that's missing out the bit where there's no one else who scores or assists. In comparison, in the same shit team... Shelvey has been here since January 16th and has 3 assists to his name. So Sissoko has played for us for 5 months more this season and contributed 2 more assists. Also taking into effect that Shelvey plays much deeper. Shelvey has been better than Sissoko since he joined but that's not taking into account that Sissoko has to cross the ball into people who can't head the ball while if you split the defence with a pass from deep once in a game there is a massive chance its going to be a goal It really is astounding that people focus so much on Sissoko when the problem for the last few seasons has been lack of goals up front and shit defending at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Pretty sure this guy is leading the nWo in the dressing room against McClaren and the coaching staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The old age myth of Sissoko crossing the ball In 29 appearances this season, Sissoko has put in an average of 1.1 crosses per game. Yes, our strikers are to blame for not heading in that 1 cross he puts in a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Pretty sure this guy is leading the nWo in the dressing room against McClaren and the coaching staff. and he's still getting picked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Honestly he's killing me, such a frustrating player, seems like he's got everything and nothing at the same time It's so mad I do love him though. If we were a proper functioning team with threats in a lot of other areas it would be more bearable. Because we rely on him to do so much it's more painful. Shelvey will be a big help. Kaka, you posted this about two months ago after months of calling him shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The old age myth of Sissoko crossing the ball In 29 appearances this season, Sissoko has put in an average of 1.1 crosses per game. Yes, our strikers are to blame for not heading in that 1 cross he puts in a week. So you're argument is that of all the players who provide service from out wide, Sissoko is the biggest problem? We really are watching different games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Let me clear it up once and for all then ... he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The old age myth of Sissoko crossing the ball In 29 appearances this season, Sissoko has put in an average of 1.1 crosses per game. Yes, our strikers are to blame for not heading in that 1 cross he puts in a week. While you were looking for those stats did you also see the one where he has created 47 chances this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's amazing how little people appreciate that work rate is a key component of being a good premier league player like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's amazing how little people appreciate that work rate is a key component of being a good premier league player like. Tell it to McClaren mate. How hard can it be to find someone to run hard for 90 mins, yet that moron keeps picking continental pansies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The old age myth of Sissoko crossing the ball In 29 appearances this season, Sissoko has put in an average of 1.1 crosses per game. Yes, our strikers are to blame for not heading in that 1 cross he puts in a week. So you're argument is that of all the players who provide service from out wide, Sissoko is the biggest problem? We really are watching different games. Where have I said that? I haven't. We have a lot of shit players. You've stated how Sissoko is not the problem, puts in crosses etc. is our most attacking player and so on. Yet so far this season we have gathered he puts in 1 cross a game, has 5 assists all season (across 3 matches out of 29) and 0 goals. If you don't see how absolutely appalling and cowardly he was yesterday, there is no helping you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's amazing how little people appreciate that work rate is a key component of being a good premier league player like. I appreciate it, I just don't see the lack of work rate most of the time. How many times do full backs do anything up against him? Both Wijnaldum and Aarons both let their full back go yesterday at one stage, one resulting in a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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