BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ron laughing as he only said last week that Haidara hasn't got what it takes to make it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It might have been the 'never' get back in TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Was quite surprised he got the nod ahead of Dummett, actually. If he's fully fit now I hope that Dummett gets another loan in the near future. Preferably in a league where I wouldn't nick a couple of goals. Tbf, it's looking doubtful that Haidara will ever be first-choice (or potentially even second choice) here. Pity, cos he's shown promise when he's played. Why's that? Because Santon and Dummett are ahead of him in the pecking order, obviously. I'm fairly certain Dummett is not ahead, like. Did warn you, Yorkie. Know Pards inside out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 i thought i remembered that too, then i recall he did a patented half-backtrack and kind of muddied the waters himself fair play like, always leaves himself an out, no absolutes with ronaldo (as soon as he's called out for his absolute judgements) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Didn't think Santon looked much kop last night but, tbh Haidara didn't really look a whole lot better. Was a nothing substitution. Didn't make us better, didn't make us worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Was quite surprised he got the nod ahead of Dummett, actually. If he's fully fit now I hope that Dummett gets another loan in the near future. Preferably in a league where I wouldn't nick a couple of goals. I'm not really that surprised as from what I've seen from them both Haidara looks like he will be a better player. Competition is good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Did OK last night I thought. Yeah, me too. There was an incident where he was isolated and Dyer had a free run at him. Santon would have stood no chance, but Haidara managed to stay goal side. He made some over-ambitious passes going forward, but otherwise looked decent in attack as well. He looks to have a confident temperament and I'm sure he'll keep improving if given chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Was quite surprised he got the nod ahead of Dummett, actually. If he's fully fit now I hope that Dummett gets another loan in the near future. Preferably in a league where I wouldn't nick a couple of goals. I'm not really that surprised as from what I've seen from them both Haidara looks like he will be a better player. Competition is good though. Absolutely. I just thought it looked like Pards might be favouring Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ron laughing as he only said last week that Haidara hasn't got what it takes to make it here. This is a lie, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ron laughing as he only said last week that Haidara hasn't got what it takes to make it here. This is a lie, by the way. What was your exact quote? I remember questioning your logic to why you thought Haidara won't step up even if Santon were to be sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Must say, as much as I like Santon his lack of improvement concerns me. That said, Haidara and Dummett are not, and quite probably never will be, ready to replace him. There we go, pretty much saying Haidara will never be good enough here to replace Santon. Therefore he hasn't got what it takes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Must say, as much as I like Santon his lack of improvement concerns me. That said, Haidara and Dummett are not, and quite probably never will be, ready to replace him. There we go, pretty much saying Haidara will never be good enough here to replace Santon. Therefore he hasn't got what it takes never good enough = not ready Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 So thinking he'll probably never be ready to replace Santon is the same as saying he'll never make it? Odd hearing such stupid logic from a disciple of Alan Pardew, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 An interesting defence. The deployment of ' ' seems desperate, but we all know Ronaldo usually has an ace up his sleeve. Let's see how this one develops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 So thinking he'll probably never be ready to replace Santon is the same as saying he'll never make it? Odd hearing such stupid logic from a disciple of Alan Pardew, like. He'll never be ready to replace Santon, so he's just going to be a back up left back for his remaining time here. Yep, i'd say that's not making it here. Anyways, you're half way down now to getting yourself out of your mess, keep digging Ron, you're almost there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He looks like a left back who can defend and Santon, sadly, is poor at that somewhat important skill. Whilst Santon's still very "young" based on what I saw last night (admittedly a very small sample) I'd play Haidara over Santon now tbh I also think Santon flatters to deceive a bit, his delivery is little better, if at all, than Jonas'. His pace may pull defenders wide but he's not really a "threat" and his prime job is defensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yeah, we all know who the mess is. Of all the posts about Haidara you pick one in which he's unfavourably compared to a 22-year-old who's started several times for Italy. Thick as mince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yeah, we all know who the mess is. Of all the posts about Haidara you pick one in which he's unfavourably compared to a 22-year-old who's started several times for Italy. Thick as mince. You've lost the plot, Ron. Simplest way out of this was to accept you may be wrong and were Santon's form to dip dramatically or he was sold, we've got a lovely left back in Haidara who's capable of filling the role perfectly well if he was needed to step up and be ready. Everyone makes an ill judgement from time to time, nothing to be ashamed of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 A lovely LB who can't defend yet. OK. I've said a hundred times he'll probably turn out a good player in time with a few loans but if he's ever better than Santon I'll be amazed. Simple enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He's better defensively than Santon already imho, just inconsistent. I wouldn't be surprised to see Haidara have the better career, as Santon doesn't seem to have developed all that much since he came to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Every time I see him I like what I see, he is nowhere near the finished product in defensive terms, going forward he looks great. A LB's job should be to first defend though and sadly I don't think any of our LB's are great at that part of the role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 An interesting defence. The deployment of ' ' seems desperate, but we all know Ronaldo usually has an ace up his sleeve. Let's see how this one develops. ronaldo is a solicitor or training to be one or something right? makes perfect sense now, he makes sweeping absolute judgements about players but does them in language that could technically be interpreted as him not quite meaning it if he gets pulled about it, or in a way he can twist out of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I watched the reserve game the other day and he was a stand out. On that note Campbell won't make it IMO, his first touch is horrible, even at that level. I'm not one to write people off but that's just my opinion. Said the exact same thing to my mate after the match regarding Campbell, never be a premiership player. Think he might even struggle in championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 good attributes - but i think he was poor last night! Him or Dummett must leave on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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