Tooj Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 so no-one fancy mckay as i said before? seems to be one of the more realistic available managers to me like Nah. Think he's just your bog standard British manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 so no-one fancy mckay as i said before? seems to be one of the more realistic available managers to me like Nah. Think he's just your bog standard British manager. what are you all realistically hoping for here if we get rid of pardew like? i mean wish lists are great but fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Eddie Howe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It will be Lawrie Sanchez or David O'Leary. Someone who has been out of football for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 zdenek zeman, an excellent attacking minded coach plus whenever we would kick off it would look like this. http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/gallery/gimages/roma-2-8-siena-use.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Amazing that.. Or was that the start of the second half when his team were behind at HT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Amazing that.. Or was that the start of the second half when his team were behind at HT? I think they would line up like that to kick off and for every goal they conceded which was not as much as i thought. he was appointed in august 2012, sacked in february 2013 so within the 6 months he took charge, roma scored 46 goals and conceded 38 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Zeman Tactics It is said that Zeman's tactics were inspired by his time playing, not football, but handball as a student. The 4-3-3 football scheme Based on Dutch Total Voetball, Zdeněk Zeman his 4-3-3 system as "geometry", and also for a football philosophy clearly based on the attacking side, the offside, and zone marking. His teams are well known for their ability to score goals, but also for the corresponding tendency to concede them. His coaching techniques, especially in regards to training (a field for which he has a particular interest), are also proverbial for their effort and diligence. High defense line, offside trap, high pressing, zonal marking. But even short first touch passes. Wingers are set to move inside the channels. The whole of these things makes this tactic solid, spectacular and extremely versatile: it is good against top teams as well as low one Having the right players for this tactic is important, although no particular characteristics are needed: Sweeper Keeper: It would be better if he had some good dribble ability Wing Back: they must be wing backs Not Full Backs. And this is the most important zone of the field where you want to spend money to get good players. they make a difference Center Back: Heading, marking, tackling, jumping, pace positioning and acceleration... Central Midfielders: The center Cm must be extremely good in strength, tackling, work rate. the left & right one must be all rounded cms Wing Forward: Wingers, yes, but instead of hugging touchline in this tactic they are set to move into channels. So they need to be some kind of Wingers/strikers, that have no problems in scoring and making the right movements. Central Forward: Complete, strong, finalizer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 We could do with a finalizer tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Paco Jemez at Rayo Vallecano? http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 KRUL COLO YANGA-MBIWA DEBUCHY SANTON TIOTE SISSOKO CABAYEANITA BEN ARFA MARVEAUXGOUFFRAN BACISSEREMY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Based on the above tactic & lineup, we'd need a New GK, New CB for Colo, New LW and New CF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Paco Jemez at Rayo Vallecano? http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe A man with a philosophy a vision of how he wants his side to play judging from that article. Sign him up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Zeman Tactics It is said that Zeman's tactics were inspired by his time playing, not football, but handball as a student. The 4-3-3 football scheme Based on Dutch Total Voetball, Zdeněk Zeman his 4-3-3 system as "geometry", and also for a football philosophy clearly based on the attacking side, the offside, and zone marking. His teams are well known for their ability to score goals, but also for the corresponding tendency to concede them. His coaching techniques, especially in regards to training (a field for which he has a particular interest), are also proverbial for their effort and diligence. High defense line, offside trap, high pressing, zonal marking. But even short first touch passes. Wingers are set to move inside the channels. The whole of these things makes this tactic solid, spectacular and extremely versatile: it is good against top teams as well as low one Having the right players for this tactic is important, although no particular characteristics are needed: Sweeper Keeper: It would be better if he had some good dribble ability Wing Back: they must be wing backs Not Full Backs. And this is the most important zone of the field where you want to spend money to get good players. they make a difference Center Back: Heading, marking, tackling, jumping, pace positioning and acceleration... Central Midfielders: The center Cm must be extremely good in strength, tackling, work rate. the left & right one must be all rounded cms Wing Forward: Wingers, yes, but instead of hugging touchline in this tactic they are set to move into channels. So they need to be some kind of Wingers/strikers, that have no problems in scoring and making the right movements. Central Forward: Complete, strong, finalizer. Imagine going from Pardew to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Zeman Tactics It is said that Zeman's tactics were inspired by his time playing, not football, but handball as a student. The 4-3-3 football scheme Based on Dutch Total Voetball, Zdeněk Zeman his 4-3-3 system as "geometry", and also for a football philosophy clearly based on the attacking side, the offside, and zone marking. His teams are well known for their ability to score goals, but also for the corresponding tendency to concede them. His coaching techniques, especially in regards to training (a field for which he has a particular interest), are also proverbial for their effort and diligence. High defense line, offside trap, high pressing, zonal marking. But even short first touch passes. Wingers are set to move inside the channels. The whole of these things makes this tactic solid, spectacular and extremely versatile: it is good against top teams as well as low one Having the right players for this tactic is important, although no particular characteristics are needed: Sweeper Keeper: It would be better if he had some good dribble ability Wing Back: they must be wing backs Not Full Backs. And this is the most important zone of the field where you want to spend money to get good players. they make a difference Center Back: Heading, marking, tackling, jumping, pace positioning and acceleration... Central Midfielders: The center Cm must be extremely good in strength, tackling, work rate. the left & right one must be all rounded cms Wing Forward: Wingers, yes, but instead of hugging touchline in this tactic they are set to move into channels. So they need to be some kind of Wingers/strikers, that have no problems in scoring and making the right movements. Central Forward: Complete, strong, finalizer. Imagine going from Pardew to that Fans would probly complain that he's too attacking and we don't keep it tight at the back anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think it would be nigh in impossible to concede more than we do tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I dunno would be fun but not convinced actually good Bielsa or bust! On second thought Ashley will always choose bust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think I speak on behalf of all Newcastle fans when I say I would rather see us lose 4-3 than win 1-0, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 At this point I honestly would. I'm just so fucking bored with us it's ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Really hoping we all feel invigorated the day Ashley or Pardew leaves I can't fucking wait for the day we get our self respect back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I agree, but i fear that after a spectacular half of a season when we accrued no points albeit gloriously the 'TOLD YOU' brigade would parp up and a Pardew-a-like clone will be installed again to 'add a few tackles to the pitch' A manager who could give us any modicum of flowing attacking footy would be a HUGE improvement. In reality we'll be looking at Sherwood (would be an upgrade, also annoying mind), or Steve Clarke or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Zeman has helped bring through some decent players too has he not ? I know he coached Veratti at Pescara, and i've read he has been credited with Lamela and Marquinhos, though i'm not so sure how much he has aided their development. I think if we are going to have any sort of success, someone who can coach and develop players, will be a key quality. It's one of the factors that turn me on to the likes of Bielsa and Zeman, however realistic or unrealistic those candidates may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 This is the Fred equivalent of self flagellation. Just stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 At this stage I think I'd take anyone we'd not had before and who'd never managed Sunderland Oh and Alan Curbishly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Zeman has helped bring through some decent players too has he not ? I know he coached Veratti at Pescara, and i've read he has been credited with Lamela and Marquinhos, though i'm not so sure how much he has aided their development. I think if we are going to have any sort of success, someone who can coach and develop players, will be a key quality. It's one of the factors that turn me on to the likes of Bielsa and Zeman, however realistic or unrealistic those candidates may be. Vucinic http://www.sportevai.it/calciomercato/calciomercato-juventus-vucinic-zeman-eccezionale-sono-esploso-grazie-a-lui/ Vucinic is impossible to say anything untoward on the Bohemian master, who has pulled up to Lecce and has imposed to Italian football. In an interview with Gazzetta dello Sport, the Montenegrin striker speaks of all the sirens from abroad who have tried before he went to Juve, Roma and the period of the things you must do to keep his Juve at the top. It starts from Zeman: "Technical exceptionally, great charisma, unique in valuing the players available. Italian football has known me through him. Good times in Lecce, the most beautiful of my life. A Lecce back to live once stopped playing. Zeman is a boon boon for the attackers. In terms of physical condition improves very much his players. At the end of each workout we were always all dead, but then in the field ... The thing that amused me most was his expression. Always the same. Anything might happen, the worst thing that ... more beautiful." No regrets, however, to Juventus Vucinic is king: " Juve has given me so much. First, I did win a championship, I could not stand to stay in the hands vuote. Torino is a city much quieter for a player, and this matters. " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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