Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Malaga keeper AGAIN! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Dortmund maintain their shape going forward so well. Aye its not just the movement when they have the ball, but when they don't they press so well as a team. Reminds me of Barca of a couple of years ago, that relentless hunting in packs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Dortmund looking vulnerable at the back, need to start taking some of their chances! Aye, Malaga are threatening as well like. But fuck me, Dortmund is an absolute joy to watch, such great movement off the ball, lovely touches all over the place, high pressure. Great on both individual level and as a team, they seem to be able to play blindfolded, they all seem to know where they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not watching, but Lewandowski was so class when I seen Dortmund. Me and my mates just watched him for a good chunk of it. Proper good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. Exactly and that's why we know Pardew is a crap coach, he simply can't get his teams to keep the ball. And when our GK comes to hoof the ball in the oppositions box anytime we get a free kick near the halfway line, a tactic that never ever works. Is it any wonder we doubt the bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. I disagree with that slightly because Dortmund don't usually dominate possession at least against the big teams. They average less than 40% in this years CL iirc, what they do is press ridiculously well so when they lose the ball the opposition can't do anything anyway as the attacks are stopped before they start. Thus for Dortmund they are closer to goal when they win the ball also needing less passes to hurt the opposition. Its f*cking class to watch IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. I disagree with that slightly because Dortmund don't usually dominate possession at least against the big teams. They average less than 40% in this years CL iirc, what they do is press ridiculously well so when they lose the ball the opposition can't do anything anyway as the attacks are stopped before they start. Thus for Dortmund they are closer to goal when they win the ball also needing less passes to hurt the opposition. Its f*cking class to watch IMO. Nice stats bro. Good post, 45% so far tonight too FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. I disagree with that slightly because Dortmund don't usually dominate possession at least against the big teams. They average less than 40% in this years CL iirc, what they do is press ridiculously well so when they lose the ball the opposition can't do anything anyway as the attacks are stopped before they start. Thus for Dortmund they are closer to goal when they win the ball also needing less passes to hurt the opposition. Its f*cking class to watch IMO. Aye, it's as far away from possession football you'll ever see. As soon as they get the ball, there's three or four players running ahead of whoever is on the ball, and they look for the killer pass straight away. It's fucking class indeed. It's also quite far away from Pardew's football like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. I disagree with that slightly because Dortmund don't usually dominate possession at least against the big teams. They average less than 40% in this years CL iirc, what they do is press ridiculously well so when they lose the ball the opposition can't do anything anyway as the attacks are stopped before they start. Thus for Dortmund they are closer to goal when they win the ball also needing less passes to hurt the opposition. Its f*cking class to watch IMO. Difference being Mole, is when Dortmund dont have the ball they close the opposition down. We on the other hand just sit there deep waiting to get opened up, putting little or no pressure on the ball. I truly despair at Pardew's tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. Exactly and that's why we know Pardew is a crap coach, he simply can't get his teams to keep the ball. And when our GK comes to hoof the ball in the oppositions box anytime we get a free kick near the halfway line, a tactic that never ever works. Is it any wonder we doubt the bloke. Genuinely think that Pardew's entire philosophy is to keep the ball as far away from our goal as possible. The longer it's down there the more likely we are to scramble a goal. There's no pattern or system we use, we just pick an XI to occupy 11 positions on the park, attempt to keep the ball as far away from Krul as possible and hope for the best. It's fucking awful to watch and unfortunately I can't see it changing while he's here. Bleurgh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. I disagree with that slightly because Dortmund don't usually dominate possession at least against the big teams. They average less than 40% in this years CL iirc, what they do is press ridiculously well so when they lose the ball the opposition can't do anything anyway as the attacks are stopped before they start. Thus for Dortmund they are closer to goal when they win the ball also needing less passes to hurt the opposition. Its f*cking class to watch IMO. Difference being Mole, is when Dortmund dont have the ball they close the opposition down. We on the other hand just sit there deep waiting to get opened up, putting little or no pressure on the ball. I truly despair at Pardew's tactics. Oh i agree, was just pointing out that Dortmund's football isn't really from the Barca school of if they can't have the ball they can't hurt us. Its rather different and honestly IMO at least better to watch. Both are miles better than Pardball mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I try not to think about our football when watching a team like Dortmund, just much rather enjoy them than comparing to the shite we have to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I try not to think about our football when watching a team like Dortmund, just much rather enjoy them than comparing to the shite we have to watch. WRONG! Every team better than us must be referenced back to Pardew & the TRUTH that he is telling our WORLD CLASS players to play as SHIT as they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I try not to think about our football when watching a team like Dortmund, just much rather enjoy them than comparing to the s**** we have to watch. WRONG! Every team better than us must be referenced back to Pardew & the TRUTH that he is telling our WORLD CLASS players to play as s*** as they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 dat movement. Why can't our players attempt to move like that? The Dortmund players are on a completely different level to ours but even poor players can move into space. Touch, control and passing ability yeah, granted, but simple things like moving about the pitch it something every player should be capable of doing so why can't we? Really frustrating to see us fail to do the simple things like sensible movement week after week. It wouldn't cure our impotence going forward but it would be a start. Because Pardew is all about shape and rigid defensive positioning. Whereas Dortmund are about forward movement and freedom to express themselves as footballers, knowing that keeping the ball means the opposition can't hurt you if they don't have it. Therefore allowing you to take risks. Flys in the face of everything Pardew. Well imo like. End of the day if you keep the ball, they simply can't score. With the players we've got, it should be fairly easy to achieve. Exactly and that's why we know Pardew is a crap coach, he simply can't get his teams to keep the ball. And when our GK comes to hoof the ball in the oppositions box anytime we get a free kick near the halfway line, a tactic that never ever works. Is it any wonder we doubt the bloke. Genuinely think that Pardew's entire philosophy is to keep the ball as far away from our goal as possible. The longer it's down there the more likely we are to scramble a goal. There's no pattern or system we use, we just pick an XI to occupy 11 positions on the park, attempt to keep the ball as far away from Krul as possible and hope for the best. It's fucking awful to watch and unfortunately I can't see it changing while he's here. Bleurgh. My sentiments exactly. To the other lads, I agree Dortmund's style works, but for us, I think if we just focussed on keeping the ball and making the other team work hard that would be a start. The pressing needs to go in conjunction with this for us to be successful of course, but I think we have to go one step at a time with Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I try not to think about our football when watching a team like Dortmund, just much rather enjoy them than comparing to the shite we have to watch. WRONG! Every team better than us must be referenced back to Pardew & the TRUTH that he is telling our WORLD CLASS players to play as SHIT as they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 can we has klopp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 can we has klopp I would wank my cock off he came here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Great chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 How is that even possible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 To the other lads, I agree Dortmund's style works, but for us, I think if we just focussed on keeping the ball and making the other team work hard that would be a start. The pressing needs to go in conjunction with this for us to be successful of course, but I think we have to go one step at a time with Pardew Getting ahead of yourself there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wahey my mate Kevin Grosskreutz is playing freaky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Lolandowski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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