Mattoon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd say 2 changes of direction and a mazy run at the end 90m in 13 seconds is pretty rapid with a ball at your feet. Ah right, I thought this was his chance at the end I think I may be wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Ok so after a bit of Dennis Wise scouting he looks like he has an excellent change of pace and great acceleration but not particularly quick at full tilt. But with his acceleration and tight footwork he's good at out smarting quicker players over distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 That graphic will include that 2 second phase of headers and when he has to wait for the ball to drop to start the counter. He jogs towards their box too, after a 70m sprint or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd say 2 changes of direction and a mazy run at the end 90m in 13 seconds is pretty rapid with a ball at your feet. Ah right, I thought this was his chance at the end It is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 His gait reminds me of Ginola. He has the hip movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Really have high hopes for him. Just hope people don't write him off if he has an average 5-6 months. Got to remember some players take more time to adapt to this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I thought his foot work was a bit Ben Arfa-ish, really quick feet and a nice acceleration burst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Is that not pretty average? Considering there's a couple of changes in direction there I imagine it's pretty bloody rapid. If he went full on sprint he'd have been off side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Can he take a corner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Doesn't matter, anyone other than Colback is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You would like your expensive winger to trouble Luke Shaw when Shaw has played 70 minutes more. He's been here 5 minutes, doesn't speak the language, has barely trained, probably isn't even nearly match fit and hardly knows his team mates. Of course he should belt onto the pitch and start murdering full backs away from home when we're defending for our lives man. Just the full pre-season and two league games in Ligue 1. Aye validates your point entirely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You would like your expensive winger to trouble Luke Shaw when Shaw has played 70 minutes more. He's been here 5 minutes, doesn't speak the language, has barely trained, probably isn't even nearly match fit and hardly knows his team mates. Of course he should belt onto the pitch and start murdering full backs away from home when we're defending for our lives man. Just the full pre-season and two league games in Ligue 1. Aye validates your point entirely Eh? It just invalidates his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think he will murder full backs when we are attacking a bit more and he gets closer to the box. Defenders usually are less reluctant to commit fouls there and his trickery will cause a lot of free kicks.. (to be floated to Willo at the back post.. oh wait) Unlike Cabella he also seems to try and stay on his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 His gait reminds me of Ginola. He has the hip movement. This! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You would like your expensive winger to trouble Luke Shaw when Shaw has played 70 minutes more. He's been here 5 minutes, doesn't speak the language, has barely trained, probably isn't even nearly match fit and hardly knows his team mates. Of course he should belt onto the pitch and start murdering full backs away from home when we're defending for our lives man. Just the full pre-season and two league games in Ligue 1. Aye validates your point entirely Eh? It just invalidates his. Don't even know who you're arguing with. You seem to be saying that because he had a full pre-season in France with a different team, coach and players and 2 Ligue 1 games, that means he's completely ready for a new league and nowt else matters and that: Completely negates not knowing the language Doesn't matter that he has barely trained Means nowt not knowing new team mates or being 5 mins in a new country and league If you're then still expecting him to join a game in which we're defending for our lives and proceed to demolish Shaw, then you're full of shit or a total WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. I'm saying he should be match-fit. End of. Everything else is valid but it doesn't affect his ability to run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. I'm saying he should be match-fit. End of. Everything else is valid but it doesn't affect his ability to run. Ok, so IMHO being match fit in one country and league (if he even was) is different than another country and league. There's an adjustment that takes longer than a 20 min cameo to judge anything surely? And besides, other than looking a little tired near the end (most likely mental tiredness and adrenaline brought on by his first appearance), he looked fit enough to me flying down the pitch from the edge of his own penalty area in about 12 seconds to almost score in the opposition 6 yard box. I saw no evidence of lack of match fitness or ability to run there. Any other vague claims, not based in reality to support a puzzling adgenda, to make? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 He sprinted down the full length of the pitch in the hope of a chance, hardly unfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. I'm saying he should be match-fit. End of. Everything else is valid but it doesn't affect his ability to run. Ok, so IMHO being match fit in one country and league (if he even was) is different than another country and league. There's an adjustment that takes longer than a 20 min cameo to judge anything surely? And besides, other than looking a little tired near the end (most likely mental tiredness and adrenaline brought on by his first appearance), he looked fit enough to me flying down the pitch from the edge of his own penalty area in about 12 seconds to almost score in the opposition 6 yard box. I saw no evidence of lack of match fitness or ability to run there. Any other vague claims, not based in reality to support a puzzling adgenda, to make? You're a looney. His physical conditioning is not a factor when you've had a full pre-season, played 2 league games and come on for the last 20 minutes for your new side. Sure he may not have adapted to the mental pace of the league but he'll not get physically much faster just by being here for awhile. He shouldn't be getting tired after 20 minutes man. I don't think he was particularly tired anyway, you're just making things up and sounding crazy. You are even agreeing with me in the end lol. Yes he's fully match fit, yes he's running like he will come to run and yes he got caught like an Elephant by a Lion by Luke Shaw. Sure, Shaw is rapid and it may have been a mental slowness rather than a truly physical one. But I was hoping he was a direct, pacy strong running type and early indications show that might not be the case. No biggie. can't draw any conclusions yet. I just said he didn't look as fast or as explosive as I had hoped. You came caping in saying "he probably isn't match fit" but erm... he probably is. "B.b..but match fit in Ligue 1 isn't the same as the PL" - what you talking about? Relax mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. I'm saying he should be match-fit. End of. Everything else is valid but it doesn't affect his ability to run. Ok, so IMHO being match fit in one country and league (if he even was) is different than another country and league. There's an adjustment that takes longer than a 20 min cameo to judge anything surely? And besides, other than looking a little tired near the end (most likely mental tiredness and adrenaline brought on by his first appearance), he looked fit enough to me flying down the pitch from the edge of his own penalty area in about 12 seconds to almost score in the opposition 6 yard box. I saw no evidence of lack of match fitness or ability to run there. Any other vague claims, not based in reality to support a puzzling adgenda, to make? You're a looney. His physical conditioning is not a factor when you've had a full pre-season, played 2 league games and come on for the last 20 minutes for your new side. Sure he may not have adapted to the mental pace of the league but he'll not get physically much faster just by being here for awhile. He shouldn't be getting tired after 20 minutes man. I don't think he was particularly tired anyway, you're just making things up and sounding crazy. You are even agreeing with me in the end lol. Yes he's fully match fit, yes he's running like he will come to run and yes he got caught like an Elephant by a Lion by Luke Shaw. Sure, Shaw is rapid and it may have been a mental slowness rather than a truly physical one. But I was hoping he was a direct, pacy strong running type and early indications show that might not be the case. No biggie. can't draw any conclusions yet. I just said he didn't look as fast or as explosive as I had hoped. You came caping in saying "he probably isn't match fit" but erm... he probably is. "B.b..but match fit in Ligue 1 isn't the same as the PL" - what you talking about? Relax mate. I'm perfectly relaxed "mate". I debated your original daft point that you were disappointed he didn't come on and make a mug out of Shaw (which ironically he did immediately with that shoulder drop). I countered with the reasons why which you also argued with, specifically, the match fit point and whether he is or isn't. I just said other factors are just as or more important. You then said his ability to run shouldn't be affected. It wasn't as clearly shown by that 90th minute counter. Another daft statement - "But I was hoping he was a direct, pacy strong running type and early indications show that might not be the case". I personally can see why he may take time to impress and become what we want but you want to judge him and conclude he might not be direct or pacy enough for your liking based on 20 minutes at Old Trafford and i'm the looney? Good Grief. Carry on mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You gotta stop feeding the troll, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You gotta stop feeding the troll, man. I know, someone kindly warned me earlier. My own fault. His logo's fucking rubbish and annoying an'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You know it's getting serous when someone puts "mate" in inverted commas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You know it's getting serous when someone puts "mate" in inverted commas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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