Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm still not entirely convinced he'll be here by the time the season kicks off, like. For what reason? Mostly a gut feeling on the back of the Kinnear appointment and Llambias resigning. He's obviously not at all happy with it, hence the silence up until it was absolutely necessary for him to speak. I think things will continue to be made extremely difficult for him, with the aim of making him walk. Plus, Gus Poyet hasn't been given a job elsewhere yet. I'm also a bit skeptical. Pardew will be fully aware of the history that Ashley has at this club and what went on with the Wise/Keegan situation; whilst he might not get his big payoff if he walks away, his reputation would still be relatively intact and he'd probably be able to pick up another Championship/promoted side management job within the year off the back of the successful 2011/12 season. If we don't sign the players he wants and we're left with a thin squad again, especially if Kinnear's new involvement and the splitting of Llambias' role muddies the water somewhat, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility. Plus, as someone else has already said, like fuck would Pardew keep his gob shut for almost two months unless summat was the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 After hearing him speak there doesn't seem like any chance at all that he'll walk out any time soon. He might after a failed transfer window followed by another terrible season, but that remains to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Owt of note on the NUFCtv interview with him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. I was more thinking about the changing of reporting lines/roles. If his role is to get what he's given in respect of players and he could previously influence this then he's got an argument for constructive dismissal. And it's not like MA doesn't have history in this regard. The KK case being fairly similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Owt of note on the NUFCtv interview with him? Reckons Lambezee was great for him and the team, now JFK is doing Lambezee's job. He and Carr will recommend players to JFK and hope JFK will get them over the line. On Perch, he was sad to see him go, but Perch wanted to play every week and he couldn't promise Perch that. Hoping Pre season will be better as they are better prepared and it's going to be very tough on the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. I was more thinking about the changing of reporting lines/roles. If his role is to get what he's given in respect of players and he could previously influence this then he's got an argument for constructive dismissal. And it's not like MA doesn't have history in this regard. The KK case being fairly similar. That's why I think they'll have something in his contract about it so not to get stung twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. I was more thinking about the changing of reporting lines/roles. If his role is to get what he's given in respect of players and he could previously influence this then he's got an argument for constructive dismissal. And it's not like MA doesn't have history in this regard. The KK case being fairly similar. That's why I think they'll have something in his contract about it so not to get stung twice. You may be right. Safe to say, there's no long term in this for AP though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Why are people doubting Kinnear's footballing knowledge ? He knows things that nobody else does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I just think he sounded like he was genuinely OK about it, that's all. As I said, might well just be bluffing/frontin'. I thought the other fella had taken over Derek's role. Forget his name now.... Lee Charnley, that's what we were talking about. Am i dreaming this? I thought the club announced that someone internal was promoted to fulfill Llambias's financial role and i'm sure it wasn't Charnley.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. He never had much influence in the first place, so nothing has really changed for Pardew. The only real difference is now he's got a new boss that has a bigger mouth than the last one. No real reason to write off 7 years of a lucrative contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I just think he sounded like he was genuinely OK about it, that's all. As I said, might well just be bluffing/frontin'. I thought the other fella had taken over Derek's role. Forget his name now.... Lee Charnley, that's what we were talking about. Am i dreaming this? I thought the club announced that someone internal was promoted to fulfill Llambias's financial role and i'm sure it wasn't Charnley.... You are right, the other fella does the internal finances, sponsorship stuff i think i read but Charnley does the transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I just think he sounded like he was genuinely OK about it, that's all. As I said, might well just be bluffing/frontin'. I thought the other fella had taken over Derek's role. Forget his name now.... Lee Charnley, that's what we were talking about. Am i dreaming this? I thought the club announced that someone internal was promoted to fulfill Llambias's financial role and i'm sure it wasn't Charnley.... You are right, the other fella does the internal finances, sponsorship stuff i think i read but Charnley does the transfers. Oh. Was the delineation as clear as that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I just think he sounded like he was genuinely OK about it, that's all. As I said, might well just be bluffing/frontin'. I thought the other fella had taken over Derek's role. Forget his name now.... Lee Charnley, that's what we were talking about. Am i dreaming this? I thought the club announced that someone internal was promoted to fulfill Llambias's financial role and i'm sure it wasn't Charnley.... You are right, the other fella does the internal finances, sponsorship stuff i think i read but Charnley does the transfers. Oh. Was the delineation as clear as that? Not quite sure, i'm trying to find the story where i read it, i'm sure it was a Chronicle piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I thought the football bit of Llambeezy's role goes to JFK, and Charnley gets more responsibility for the financial bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. He never had much influence in the first place, so nothing has really changed for Pardew. The only real difference is now he's got a new boss that has a bigger mouth than the last one. No real reason to write off 7 years of a lucrative contract. He's obviously got on well with Llambias so his departure will impact his level of influence, especially with JFK being geared towards MA. I doubt his contract is that lucrative. He'll still be one of the lowest (base pay) paid managers in the league. Even if that's littered with incentives, he may take the view that these aren't going to be realised with arseholes like JFK involved. Given his relative shiteness as a top level manager he may take the view that he should leave on his own terms, citing constructive dismissal to earn a few quid, before taking a (better base paid) job elsewhere towards the rear of the Premiership. All he's throwing away is security, in reality, which is only actually 1 year salary if we are to believe the widespread media commentary on the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Found it, i was pretty close. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bigger-board-role-newcastle-united-4694368 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Oh aye, I thought Irving was Charnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Oh aye, I thought Irving was Charnley. That Irving fella, he's the one who is in a lot of photos when Ashley comes to the training ground. I think some thought he was the helicopter pilot when it was discussed as who he was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. He never had much influence in the first place, so nothing has really changed for Pardew. The only real difference is now he's got a new boss that has a bigger mouth than the last one. No real reason to write off 7 years of a lucrative contract. He's obviously got on well with Llambias so his departure will impact his level of influence, especially with JFK being geared towards MA. I doubt his contract is that lucrative. He'll still be one of the lowest (base pay) paid managers in the league. Even if that's littered with incentives, he may take the view that these aren't going to be realised with arseholes like JFK involved. Given his relative shiteness as a top level manager he may take the view that he should leave on his own terms, citing constructive dismissal to earn a few quid, before taking a (better base paid) job elsewhere towards the rear of the Premiership. All he's throwing away is security, in reality, which is only actually 1 year salary if we are to believe the widespread media commentary on the subject. Really? Is that why he hasn't been sacked. Must be stability. Don't be so naive , if what you're saying really is the case, Pardew would had walked the same time as Lambeasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. He never had much influence in the first place, so nothing has really changed for Pardew. The only real difference is now he's got a new boss that has a bigger mouth than the last one. No real reason to write off 7 years of a lucrative contract. He's obviously got on well with Llambias so his departure will impact his level of influence, especially with JFK being geared towards MA. I doubt his contract is that lucrative. He'll still be one of the lowest (base pay) paid managers in the league. Even if that's littered with incentives, he may take the view that these aren't going to be realised with arseholes like JFK involved. Given his relative shiteness as a top level manager he may take the view that he should leave on his own terms, citing constructive dismissal to earn a few quid, before taking a (better base paid) job elsewhere towards the rear of the Premiership. All he's throwing away is security, in reality, which is only actually 1 year salary if we are to believe the widespread media commentary on the subject. Really? Is that why he hasn't been sacked. Must be stability. Don't be so naive , if what you're saying really is the case, Pardew would had walked the same time as Lambeasy. Er no, he hasn't been sacked because Ashley (for whatever reason) has not sacked him. Do you think Ashley gives a shit about a poxy pay off and a bit of bad press? Hardly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Walking out on 7 years remaining of a very handsome contract, absolute no chance. I would imagine he'd have a strong case for constructive dismissal. There'll be something in his contract stating he picks the team and doesn't have final say in transfers or something. He was brought in the first place as a yes man and will continue to be so. I don't imagine he will have much problems with what is done and what will be done above his head. He's not going anywhere. His mates left, he's been marginalised by JFK, he's got even less influence than in the past and he's got a moron for a boss. I'd say he'd he'll have some serious problems with what's going on above his head tbqh. He never had much influence in the first place, so nothing has really changed for Pardew. The only real difference is now he's got a new boss that has a bigger mouth than the last one. No real reason to write off 7 years of a lucrative contract. He's obviously got on well with Llambias so his departure will impact his level of influence, especially with JFK being geared towards MA. I doubt his contract is that lucrative. He'll still be one of the lowest (base pay) paid managers in the league. Even if that's littered with incentives, he may take the view that these aren't going to be realised with arseholes like JFK involved. Given his relative shiteness as a top level manager he may take the view that he should leave on his own terms, citing constructive dismissal to earn a few quid, before taking a (better base paid) job elsewhere towards the rear of the Premiership. All he's throwing away is security, in reality, which is only actually 1 year salary if we are to believe the widespread media commentary on the subject. It's gonna be hard for him to deal with JFK's continuous nonsense. It will wear him down much quicker than even he knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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