NG32 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Reading thopse GolfMag posts again brings me back to the feeling most of us had at the time Pardew was appointed. It was easy to forget who he is, where he came from and under what circumstances he accepted the job when he took us to 5th place. Now though, those issues seem far more pressing and illustrative of the way our club is being operated. He's a manager whose misfortunes forced him to take charge of a League One club - a club that eventually wanted to keep evolving and got rid of him. The complete liberation from logic that lies behind Ashley and Llambias decision to appoint him in the first place was never confronted in the press. Not to the degree it should have been. Our clubs sporting ambition ceased to exist the moment this man was brought in. If his contract is constructed the way GolfMag describes it, it's even more of a scandal. But Pardew made himself out to be a manager of some sort of calibre at once, and he seemingly has a way of getting along with a lot of people. There's not much reason to be angry with him for taking the opportunity to manage in the Premier League again, even though his previous record should have made that impossible. There's however loads of reason to despise his acceptance of a role where he would serve as a football manager under the control of people who had no intention of achieving any footballing success. Add to that the unfairly displacing an honest professional in the process, which he evidently knew about. Hopefully someone inside the club can document exactly what's going on, because this all seems as if it could make for a smashing documentary at some stage. I'd love to know the full story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. Gimp, you type that with your forehead ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. 19 games last season says otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Btw I love that it's now been called a conspiracy theory twice. As if the assertion that Ashley would rather finance new players by selling players we already have is some sort of wild, philosophical musing. TBF it actually has only happened with Carroll. I don't doubt he would love to bring some money in, I'm just not sure you can logically extend that to mean we're actively shopping all our best players to our rivals. Do you mind if I respond to this? I don't need to logically extend the Carroll sale. The touting around of Cabaye on this occasion and Tiote last summer will do for me. Oh, and at the prices we're talking about I don't think we're likely to sell to any of our rivals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Benwell Lad Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 But do people think the overall strategy of 'reducing the wage bill' or making the club more self-sufficient is exactly the same as 'actively trying to sell anyone we can'? Honest question. I think, as proven time and time again in football and business in general, that everything has it's price and will be sold. As a club I definitely think that any player is for sale if they meet Ashley's valuation. However we're also known as hard dealers nowadays and only "Carrollesque" type bids will be accepted for our top players, which in fairness probably deters most clubs from trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. Gimp, you type that with your forehead ?. in anger yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Advertising players via the press rather than explicitly (which the buyer could easily publicize) makes it much easier for the dim to believe that the club were somehow powerless in selling someone. They did it with Carroll, Harry Redknapp even commented on how it amused him that they were claiming woe is me when they'd been trying to peddle him all month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think the plan was to flog Tiote first but after such a tragic drop in performance his value has plummeted. The next player we think we could get big money for is Cabaye and after that Ben Arfa in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. Gimp, you type that with your forehead ?. in anger yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Advertising players via the press rather than explicitly (which the buyer could easily publicize) makes it much easier for the dim to believe that the club were somehow powerless in selling someone. They did it with Carroll, Harry Redknapp even commented on how it amused him that they were claiming woe is me when they'd been trying to peddle him all month. "I had a good laugh this afternoon watching the interview from Newcastle," Redknapp told Sky Sports News. "I thought it was one of the most amusing things I'd seen. 'How hard Newcastle had fought to keep him and pulled out all the stops and they had battled it all the way, even when he put in a transfer request'. "Every time these clubs sell a player they seem to have to get the player to put in a transfer request to make it look like they did not want to sell him." Forgot about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Good old Harry. Love him. Fountain of wisdom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Everything he says is probably true but also to be fair 'Arry was also pissed because he wanted Carroll but was only willing to pay about £20m at the time if I remember correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 If Pardew wasn't part of Ashley's sinister regime he wouldn't be in a job. He want's a Premier League Cash Cow without the expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 If Pardew wasn't part of Ashley's sinister regime he wouldn't be in a job. He want's a Premier League Cash Cow without the expense. Now there's a cue for two weeks of endless going round in circles debate if ever I saw one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'd like to punch him in the mouth. How can you do that from behind him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'd like to punch him in the mouth. How can you do that from behind him? Donkey Punch ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ben Arfa won't exactly go for big money at the moment considering his horrendous injury record here. His snapped ankle and the issue last season. Its harldey and horrendous injury record of on and off injuries. 19 games last season says otherwise. Like I said, the issue last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 New lows....yet again he beats my expectations... How much lower can he lower the bar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I hate the way he says "we have to guard against offers" coming in for players when everyone knows they'll sell at the first opportunity after Pardew constantly advertises that players are for sale. It's so boring listening to him roll out the same tired sentences all the fucking time regrading everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Why don't journalists say something? ''Alan why do you keep advertising your players?'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Why don't journalists say something? ''Alan why do you keep advertising your players?'' " Did Cabaye refuse to play and if so is he going to get a fine " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I hate the way he says "we have to guard against offers" coming in for players when everyone knows they'll sell at the first opportunity after Pardew constantly advertises that players are for sale. It's so boring listening to him roll out the same tired sentences all the fucking time regrading everything sorry to be all inochi about this but isn't the bit in bold the exact opposite of how we handle our outgoing transfers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The "guard against offers" thing is ridiculous anyway. What do we do put up our shield and deflector beam? How do you stop clubs making bids? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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