Alan Pardew

[Dave]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2427092/Alan-Pardew-insists-Newcastle-qualify-Europe-season.html

'There's just a different feel on the training ground and it looks like a better blend and a better spirit amongst the group than last year but you can never tell because we've had good starts the last two seasons and we could start really well here but it's a long, long season and injuries and suspensions are important. They're going to affect us like all Premier League teams.

 

'These real swathes of "we're going to have a great season", "we're going to go down" is even more highlighted in this club for whatever reason.

 

'Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground, for the team to keep their feet on the ground about where we're at but to also embroider their dreams.'

 

Fuck's he on about?

 

Better blend: same players.

Better spirit: Cisse/Cabaye disputes.

Good start: but could end up like last year.

Injuries and suspensions: I thought we were ignoring those?

'We're going to have a great season': embroidered dreams or too extreme?

 

Was he pissed?

[Jack Flash]

It's an overreaction when we want signings but when he wants them it's not.

[Dave]

As I said, he just needs to pipe down a bit. I can't believe he's got the brass neck for some of this shit. He's got it all to prove after last season and with a virtually unchanged squad that he lies says he's happy with.

[HawK]

I don't rate Pardew at all, but it makes a big difference having a pre-season with all those new bodies we got in January to help blend the squad together. It must have been a right job with 5 first teamers through the door in January to keep the squad balance and morale. Not withstanding they were signed 6 months too late, I do think even with the same team, without Europe we're going to be in a hell of a lot better shape than last season.

[littlelunchbox]

I don't rate Pardew at all, but it makes a big difference having a pre-season with all those new bodies we got in January to help blend the squad together. It must have been a right job with 5 first teamers through the door in January to keep the squad balance and morale. Not withstanding they were signed 6 months too late, I do think even with the same team, without Europe we're going to be in a hell of a lot better shape than last season.

 

really?  Played like absolutely shite vs City.  Turd again vs Hammers,  woeful again vs Fulham until the last half hour.  Play well vs Villa.

 

That's one and half good games.  Way too soon to say a full pre-season of a settled squad proves anything.  Better off than last season you say.  Can it get much worse?

[Disco]

As I said, he just needs to pipe down a bit. I can't believe he's got the brass neck for some of this shit. He's got it all to prove after last season and with a virtually unchanged squad that he lies says he's happy with.

 

In the media though, aside from the flimsy locals, he's under no pressure whatsoever. His excuses last season have been bought here, there and everywhere.

[Interpolic]

Awful quotes. Bloke is a fucking muppet. Guess all managers are fucking muppets though, so swings and roundabouts. Interviewers probably ask him if he wants to be a muppet.

[Foluwashola]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2427092/Alan-Pardew-insists-Newcastle-qualify-Europe-season.html

'There's just a different feel on the training ground and it looks like a better blend and a better spirit amongst the group than last year but you can never tell because we've had good starts the last two seasons and we could start really well here but it's a long, long season and injuries and suspensions are important. They're going to affect us like all Premier League teams.

 

'These real swathes of "we're going to have a great season", "we're going to go down" is even more highlighted in this club for whatever reason.

 

'Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground, for the team to keep their feet on the ground about where we're at but to also embroider their dreams.'

 

Fuck's he on about?

 

Better blend: same players.

Better spirit: Cisse/Cabaye disputes.

Good start: but could end up like last year.

Injuries and suspensions: I thought we were ignoring those?

'We're going to have a great season': embroidered dreams or too extreme?

 

Was he pissed?

 

Can't see anything wrong with those comments. Pretty standard manager fare.

 

Why can't the blend/spirit be better than last year? Signs so far indicate this may be true. Early days obvs.

[LucaAltieri]

I don't rate Pardew at all, but it makes a big difference having a pre-season with all those new bodies we got in January to help blend the squad together. It must have been a right job with 5 first teamers through the door in January to keep the squad balance and morale. Not withstanding they were signed 6 months too late, I do think even with the same team, without Europe we're going to be in a hell of a lot better shape than last season.

 

really?  Played like absolutely shite vs City.  Turd again vs Hammers,  woeful again vs Fulham until the last half hour.  Play well vs Villa.

 

That's one and half good games.  Way too soon to say a full pre-season of a settled squad proves anything.  Better off than last season you say.  Can it get much worse?

 

What you're describing there is a team starting out without any confidence then slowly gaining it. It's not like Pardew suddenly decided to flip a switch against Fulham and make everyone play well. The team needs to feel like they can play and win together and that comes through experience. We're getting there.

[Mick]

Pardew is a total knacker, I have no idea what he's up to with these comments other than he's as thick as pig shit, I hate him with a passion.

[Guest bimpy474]

When he talks about over reactions, i think he's done just the same from the Villa performance. I would wait just a little longer Alan before getting a bit smug like.

[Interpolic]

He basically has no right to accuse anyone of overreacting, it was a completely inexplicable under-reaction that led to him keeping his job summer just gone.

 

Sorry, can we just put forum divides and point scoring aside for a second so I can ask:

 

Do people think he's quite flippantly insulting and offensive towards the fans at the minute?  I feel like I've heard 3 or 4 things from him recently that promote the idea of us being idiots in a lazy Southern media way that is designed to reflect better on him.

[merlin]

He basically has no right to accuse anyone of overreacting, it was a completely inexplicable under-reaction that led to him keeping his job summer just gone.

 

Sorry, can we just put forum divides and point scoring aside for a second so I can ask:

 

Do people think he's quite flippantly insulting and offensive towards the fans at the minute?  I feel like I've heard 3 or 4 things from him recently that promote the idea of us being idiots in a lazy Southern media way that is designed to reflect better on him.

 

You are probably right in that Pardew is being slightly offensive towards the fans especially - this is because he knows that Ashley is gambling on him walking out because of Kinnear, lack of signings etc., and Pardew is trying to manoeuver a situation where the fans start pressurizing him and Ashley then is forced into a situation where he has to fire him...we all know that this won't work for a number of reasons but Pardew is also engaged in trying to salvage his reputation and ensure that the blame for the club being a pantomime is down to 'over-expectant' supporters and interference from above.

Anyone looking for a new manager in the PL now would not be keen to take on Pardew unless it was a club like Palace...a look at Pardew's CV tells you that consistent success has ALWAYS avoided him and he has been fired from such giants as Charlton and Southampton...the latter had higher ambitions and they knew they wouldn't reach them with Pardew at the top and so it proved.

 

NUFC is NOT Southampton though, and Ashley will not fire Pardew unless results start mirroring those of last season - we shall see.

[Stu]

Pardew is a total knacker, I have no idea what he's up to with these comments other than he's as thick as pig shit, I hate him with a passion.

 

He doesn't even know you exist, mind.

[Wullie]

He's spun the exact opposite line about our fans in the past, that we don't have high expectations and that it's the southern media that paint us that way. Tooj has it in his sig.

[Interpolic]

He's spun the exact opposite line about our fans in the past, that we don't have high expectations and that it's the southern media that paint us that way. Tooj has it in his sig.

 

Yeah true, it's almost as if he twists things to fit his own agenda at any given time. Management issues aside, it is quite depressing that we have such a fucking tosser as the club's public figurehead.

 

[Wullie]

It's been clear for a while that he's got absolutely no respect for the supporters whatsoever. For that reason alone he shouldn't be in charge of the football team but that's probably a big bonus in the owner's eyes.

[mrmojorisin75]

so we almost get relegated last year, pardew spends the entire season saying his squad is not good enough and that's the reason, he spends the following close season telling everyone the squad is not good enough and he needs more players...joe please get me some players

 

fans unhappy because the manager didn't get players he publicly stated he needed

 

fans overreacting to lack of signings

 

that's a staggering chain of events from pards like, even by his own standards

 

 

[Varadi]

Sorry, can we just put forum divides and point scoring aside for a second so I can ask:

 

Do people think he's quite flippantly insulting and offensive towards the fans at the minute?  I feel like I've heard 3 or 4 things from him recently that promote the idea of us being idiots in a lazy Southern media way that is designed to reflect better on him.

 

I think he seems to be talking a load of shite but nothing I've found particularly insulting tbh.

 

Main issue here is I think is that his overriding primary concern is self preservation so I think you can read a lot of his media statements in that context - things like getting excuses in early to try protect his own reputation so if things go wrong he has a chance of coming out of it looking OK.

 

It often doesn't endear him to the fans (understatement reading this thread!) but keeps him well in with the media as he's always accessible and feeding them friendly soundbites, and these days that's arguably more important from his personal point of view - he knows he's almost certain to be sacked eventually (nearly all managers are) so how that's presented in the media could have a big impact on his chances of getting another decent gig.

 

 

[Stu]

fans unhappy because the manager didn't get players he publicly stated he needed

 

fans overreacting to lack of signings

 

Thought it was more of a comment on the state of football (esp the media) rather than our fans in particular - see the comment about Redknapp.

[mrmojorisin75]

fans unhappy because the manager didn't get players he publicly stated he needed

 

fans overreacting to lack of signings

 

Thought it was more of a comment on the state of football (esp the media) rather than our fans in particular - see the comment about Redknapp.

 

i completely agree, and he's actually right in what he's saying but he does explicitly state that the fans were overreacting:

 

"I never actually thought we were in as bad a situation as some people were suggesting in the media and even our own fans,"

 

point still stands; you can't bleat to the media at every opportunity about how shit your squad depth is and publicly ask for new players then complain about the media when they make something big out of the fact that kinnear didn't strengthen his squad

 

if he'd kept his mouth shut about new players and such then he'd have a point

[Stu]

Think it's more of a problem that his quotes get blown up into something else or analysed to the n-th degree by people who have too much time on their hands.

 

The media don't help by exacerbating the quotes to fit whatever agenda they're running.

[Incognito]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/20/alan-pardew-newcastle-united

Alan Pardew: Time for knee-jerk reactions at Newcastle United to stop

 

• Pardew unhappy with over-reaction to lack of summer signings

• Newcastle face Hull City with newly acquired optimism

 

    Louise Taylor

    The Guardian, Friday 20 September 2013 22.00 BST

 

 

Alan Pardew has denounced what he regards as increasingly knee-jerk reactions by media and fans. The Newcastle United manager believes the time has come to put a check on the growing hysteria surrounding the game.

 

"For us Premier League managers, it's about trying to keep everybody's feet firmly planted on the ground in reality, because some of the stuff that's said is just complete fantasy," said Pardew, who was deemed to be destined for the sack after his side lost heavily at Manchester City in their opening game of the season.

 

Despite behind-the-scenes confusion relating to Joe Kinnear's appointment as director of football and the club's failure to make a permanent summer signing, Pardew retains a strong team which has collected seven points from its last three games.

 

They are at home to Hull on Saturday with relgation talk replaced by optimism that Newcastle might qualify for Europe. "I never actually thought we were in as bad a situation as some people were suggesting in the media and even our own fans," said Pardew, who did acquire the France striker, Loïc Rémy, on loan from QPR.

 

"I thought there was an over-reaction to what happened in the summer but there always is with Newcastle. Whether it's good or bad, we get an over-reaction, and that's the way the media is with the Premier League as well.

 

"You have only got to look at Chelsea's defeat the other night and suddenly the writing is on the wall for José Mourinho and that team. It's rubbish, really.

 

"You do get setbacks and you just have to keep a level head. We have kept a level head all the way through. We think we've got a good side. I feel my side has more power to it, more offensive options this season."

 

As he worked on eradicating last season's flaws on the training ground throughout July and August there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth outside the gates. "The extremes of the media are ridiculous at the moment," said Pardew. "I really feel that. "I was watching the BBC 10pm news on Wednesday night and Chelsea is a major story – they'd lost a game in Europe in a group from which it looks to me they'll qualify comfortably from."These real swings between 'we're going to have a great season' and 'we're going to go down' are even more highlighted at this club for whatever reason. Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground and for the team to keep their feet on the ground.

 

"You can't ignore the media, it's constantly in your face, whenever you turn on the TV. It's Jamie Redknapp talking about the 'crisis' at Arsenal but then suddenly they've won four on the spin and 10 away on the trot. I don't know what the crisis is? Before that Champions league qualifying game they had at the start of the season, Arsene Wenger's job was 'on the line'. Come on, it's ridiculous."

 

Cheeky cunt.

 

The bit about Chelsea tickled me.  I know he's on about the pressure Mourinho is under but some might construe it as Pardew saying Chelsea are rubbish.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

He's quite media friendly which is why he's quite popular with the press but I really wish they wouldn't let him talk so much or at least edit it a bit before furiously auditing it & asking him behind closed doors ''da fuq?'.

 

That said - it's a results game so we'll see at 5 O'clock this evening the only thing that really counts. We know we've got a small squad & a quality eleven, we know we're a selling club. We'll hear lies about both - just like we will from the next manager but the rest is silly.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

I wouldn't say he avoided criticism at all tbf but nobody was going gung ho I suppose because not enough people cared - in a national sense - and locally people don't want to be banned.