Alan Pardew

[Happy Face]

The football Laudrup plays should be more than enough to want anyone to change imo. I'd sell my granny to have an exciting attacking manager like him.

 

I go to the match to watch NUFC try and beat the other team by as many goals as possible, not to be bored, lose, then come home and console myself with carefully selected statistics.

 

Nice to see everybody looking at the positives and getting behind the manager. Wenesday was just awful - however we were short of probably 5 - 6 first teamers and half of those on the park were forced to play out of position. Souey's spent £50m so lets sack him and get another manager in. Give him £50m and sack him in 18 months as well. Whats the time limit now at SJP for "success" 1 month. 10 games? FFS could we lay off with the negativity. With a fully fit squad we should give most teams a run for their money. If Souey fails with a full squad then fine, sack him, but get real. Up to now he's fielded walking wounded and kids played out of position.

 

Against Wigan reserves.

 

Wigan. Reserves. Boumsong, Solano, Emre, Bowyer, Parker, Shearer, Luque - these are his players or players he has chosen to keep - and at huge expense.

 

 

 

Considering we have had the worst injury crisis in Premiership history I'd say Roeder has done very well to get us even competing. Add Owen to the season we have had and I think we'd easily be Top 6.

 

Have you been drinking?

 

Worst injury crisis in Premiership history my arse! Boro once forfeited a game because they didn't have enough players. That's a crisis, not having to use a couple of Academy lads - the same Boro played a nearly all Academy team last year and put up a better fight than we did today with a strong side.

 

You've been listening to Roeder's boring shite too much, Souness all over again.

 

 

 

When you play good football, you win football matches. You don't win them all by any means but if you play well, you create chances and by extension score goals.

 

You talk of "grinding out results" but that is a million miles away on current form because we're absolutely porous at the back. We are neither creating anything nor defending anything and you've got to do at least one of those!

 

There is often hyperbole on this forum, as with all football forums, but we were at home on Saturday and we didn't have a corner or a single shot at goal, we've also conceded 7 in 2 at SJP while not scoring a single 'real' goal since Spurs. It is not over the top to say that what we've seen over the past month is just as bad as anything we have seen over the past 15 years. I'm still somewhat hopeful that he can turn it round but he needs to do it fast.

 

I think you'd be better off cancelling your season ticket than pinning your hopes on a miraculous change to this cycle of pain you seem to be subjecting yourself to.

[Dave]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

[Guest Forollhogna]

When in a hole, stop digging....

[Happy Face]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

I know, he should get a new script, right.  Banging on about the way the game should be played, irrespective of the manager.  Saying how this manager and that one are definitely the worst for 15 years. Guaranteed he'll say the same about Pardew's replacement too.

 

The only surprise is it doesn't give him pause to consider if it's the ever changing cycle of managers he's moaned about or the men appointing the managers that are small minded when it comes to the product on the pitch.

 

 

[Guest icemanblue]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy.

[colinmk]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy.

 

Crazy eh, what with all the ambition we've shown and success we've had in recent times.

 

Seemed to be happy enough to me when Chris Hughton was being left alone to run things.

[Happy Face]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy.

 

Newcastle fan unhappy with Souness, Roeder and Allardyce who'd have thunk it.

 

No-one's particularly happy with Pardew either.

 

Difference between happy and advocating the sack though.

[Happy Face]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy.

 

Newcastle fan unhappy with Souness, Roeder and Allardyce who'd have thunk it.

 

No-one's particularly happy with Pardew either.

 

Difference between happy and advocating the sack though.

 

There's fuck all difference man  . Wullie is a dreamer who wants what's best for the club, its hardly worth all this drivel.

 

...and he's not the only one.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Find me anyone that was happy when Souness, Roeder and Allardyce were in charge ffs. If you're going to use that one then you'd have to use that one on 99% of the people on here, just as you would with Pardew.

[Happy Face]

Poor show things like this. Roeder and Souness were both fucking awful. Football fans complain about managers they don't like, completely irrelevant to this discussion.

 

Have you run out of cherry picked/carefully worded stats?

 

I can keep them coming if you've been enjoying them.  Here's one for you.  Roeder still has the best Premier League points won record of any Newcastle manager outside of Keegan and Robson.

 

I wasn't keen on his brand of football either, but nor did I ever advocate for his sacking.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material.

 

It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy.

 

Crazy eh, what with all the ambition we've shown and success we've had in recent times.

 

Seemed to be happy enough to me when Chris Hughton was being left alone to run things.

 

I can't imagine Wullie was too happy at all with a fair proportion of our Premier League games under Hughton. Let's not forget that out of 5 home games against Blackburn, Blackpool, Stoke, Fulham and Wigan, we managed to get 2 points, playing some absolutely dire football in the process. Then there was a 5-1 hammering against Bolton and West Brom played us off the park in the 3-1.

[Guest firetotheworks]

God, I fucking hate stats.

[BrettNUFC]

I can't deny during them times i was probably exactly the same as Wullie. I've changed my perception under this regime well Pardew in particular, i'm sick of wanting managers out for that to happen only to be replaced with an equal amount of shit. For example I always thought Hughton was doing a decent enough job but I though we were better than him and should get rid of him and improve the calibre of manager…we got Pardew ffs! Decided it was time just for once to give the manager time in the job to prove his worth rather than wanting him out from the start or when things go badly like i had done in the past. If i knew we would be replacing Pardew with someone superior i would be all for it, however i just don't trust this lot anymore, can't be arsed for us to start all over again with someone like Kinnear, just couldn't face the misery of the appointment, then i would be all doom and gloom. So for now i'm given Pardew the benefit of the doubt in which the club has given him stability to a certain extent and hope he can turn it back around this season but i do actaully believe he can with the players at his disposal rather then the fact i believe he's a good manager.

[Guest Forollhogna]

Its not about WDL`s, its about football philosophy.. no idea why you insist on comparing shit managers...keep at it though..

[Guest Forollhogna]

I can't deny during them times i was probably exactly the same as Wullie. I've changed my perception under this regime well Pardew in particular, i'm sick of wanting managers out for that to happen only to be replaced with an equal amount of s***. For example I always thought Hughton was doing a decent enough job but I though we were better than him and should get rid of him and improve the calibre of manager…we got Pardew ffs! Decided it was time just for once to give the manager time in the job to prove his worth rather than wanting him out from the start or when things go badly like i had done in the past. If i knew we would be replacing Pardew with someone superior i would be all for it, however i just don't trust this lot anymore, can't be arsed for us to start all over again with someone like Kinnear, just couldn't face the misery of the appointment, then i would be all doom and gloom. So for now i'm given Pardew the benefit of the doubt in which the club has given him stability to a certain extent and hope he can turn it back around this season but i do actaully believe he can with the players at his disposal rather then the fact i believe he's a good manager.

 

Its like staying at home with a nasty rash on your leg because if you visit the hospital you might pick up something worse...  The positive posters on here might actually be the ones who want him out because they think someone capable just might turn up and accept the job?

[Happy Face]

Find me anyone that was happy when Souness, Roeder and Allardyce were in charge ffs. If you're going to use that one then you'd have to use that one on 99% of the people on here, just as you would with Pardew.

 

The point isn't that the majority were happy with those managers...but that the majority of managers are a disappointment. 

 

Advocating for the sack because of a boring/annoying style of play is asking for another journeyman manager to come in and disappoint, but perhaps a way that doesn't prove as effective. 

 

[loki679]

Poor show things like this. Roeder and Souness were both fucking awful. Football fans complain about managers they don't like, completely irrelevant to this discussion.

 

Have you run out of cherry picked/carefully worded stats?

 

I can keep them coming if you've been enjoying them.  Here's one for you.  Roeder still has the best Premier League points won record of any Newcastle manager outside of Keegan and Robson.

 

I wasn't keen on his brand of football either, but nor did I ever advocate for his sacking.

 

Just shows how meaningless your beloved stats are.

[Happy Face]

Its not about WDL`s, its about football philosophy.. no idea why you insist on comparing shit managers...keep at it though..

 

The club's football philosophy is determined by the chairmen that make the appointments and has proven to be uninspiring for a decade. Perhaps the appointment of Dave Bassett or Bobby Gould will see us play better football? 

 

Nah.

[Happy Face]

While I do understand the fear of getting somebody worse, we almost went down last season, is there many worse than that?

 

Aye, he's currently DOF, he did actually contribute to a relegation at NUFC rather than a survival and he's ready to step in should Pards go the journey.

[Guest Forollhogna]

Find me anyone that was happy when Souness, Roeder and Allardyce were in charge ffs. If you're going to use that one then you'd have to use that one on 99% of the people on here, just as you would with Pardew.

 

The point isn't that the majority were happy with those managers...but that the majority of managers are a disappointment. 

 

Advocating for the sack because of a boring/annoying style of play is asking for another journeyman manager to come in and disappoint, but perhaps a way that doesn't prove as effective.

 

So in short most managers are poor so why bother hiring and firing...  I bet alot of employees wish they had you as a boss....someone worse might come in lets keep him...

[NG32]

Aww man...that final run of games under roeder.

 

Especially reading away

 

[Guest firetotheworks]

Find me anyone that was happy when Souness, Roeder and Allardyce were in charge ffs. If you're going to use that one then you'd have to use that one on 99% of the people on here, just as you would with Pardew.

 

The point isn't that the majority were happy with those managers...but that the majority of managers are a disappointment. 

 

Advocating for the sack because of a boring/annoying style of play is asking for another journeyman manager to come in and disappoint, but perhaps a way that doesn't prove as effective. 

 

 

All of those managers should have been sacked and we were right to want them sacked and they were right to be sacked. Just because we've had a string of disappointing managers doesn't mean that we should accept it because we're worried that the next one will be disappointing. If that next one's disappointing then he should be sacked too. In our current predicament, it's a bit different because we pretty much know that the replacement is worse, but that isn't any reason for us to think that Pardew is anything other than absolutely shit and to maintain the stiff upper lip.

 

Saying that Pardew isn't as bad as Souness, Allardyce or Roeder, or to try and claim that because we've had shit managers before that this is who we are is a thoroughly depressing and incredibly small-time attitude. It may have a basis in reality because of Mike Ashley, but there's no way that I'm going to let him affect the way that I think and the things that I aspire to for this club. That definitely isn't Kinnear, but it absolutely isn't Pardew either and backing him up with these stats and going on about being careful what you wish for is negative, pessimistic, stagnation.

[mrmojorisin75]

well done happy face, aside from a very brief period of keegan where we looked like we might do something we've been thrown shit ever since robson was binned

 

so congrats on finding quotes where wullie is unhappy with a succession of shit managers and shit football

 

what a guy

[BrettNUFC]

While I do understand the fear of getting somebody worse, we almost went down last season, is there many worse than that?

I don't believe that was truley us. Everything that could have went wrong last season, did. Was problem after problem and Pardew didn't have the experience or know how to stop it or turn it around. With the side currently fit though and players showing us glimpses of their talent, i think he can get this right. Understand people will say i'm being negative about not trusting Ashley in appointing a good manager, but that's just the way i feel. We all have different opinions on these things. I'd rather stick with Pardew than have Kinnear come in, others will think differently because it can't get any worse than this some believe. For me though, it's one good season, one bad season and now this is really judgement time for him and he's currently and the points tally i predicted which i'm content with but now the bigger challenge for him lies ahead with tough fixtures in the pipeline and i look forward to see how we respond to them.

[Decky]

Why do people go back and quote posts from years ago, in this case as far back as 8 years ago? So Wullie was pissed off with various managers on separate occasions over the years, big deal, most people on here were.