Yorkie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If we maintain this form throughout the season we'll finish top half tbf. Not anything to write home about, but to say an improvement hasn't been seen is just factually incorrect bollocks. Don't understand the 'he'll never win me round' attitude either tbh. Surely as a Newcastle fan you can only hope that he gets the team playing well consistently and wins you round? Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If we maintain this form throughout the season we'll finish top half tbf. Not anything to write home about, but to say an improvement hasn't been seen is just factually incorrect bollocks. Don't understand the 'he'll never win me round' attitude either tbh. Surely as a Newcastle fan you can only hope that he gets the team playing well consistently and wins you round? Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! He'll be 67 in a few months and managers don't tend to last much longer than that, especially here. We've finished off far better and younger managers than him (Dalglish, Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Keegan etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If we maintain this form throughout the season we'll finish top half tbf. Not anything to write home about, but to say an improvement hasn't been seen is just factually incorrect bollocks. Don't understand the 'he'll never win me round' attitude either tbh. Surely as a Newcastle fan you can only hope that he gets the team playing well consistently and wins you round? Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! He'll be 67 in a few months and managers don't tend to last much longer than that, especially here. We've finished off far better and younger managers than him (Dalglish, Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Keegan etc). Would you honestly rather have Kinnear than Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If we maintain this form throughout the season we'll finish top half tbf. Not anything to write home about, but to say an improvement hasn't been seen is just factually incorrect bollocks. Don't understand the 'he'll never win me round' attitude either tbh. Surely as a Newcastle fan you can only hope that he gets the team playing well consistently and wins you round? Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! He'll be 67 in a few months and managers don't tend to last much longer than that, especially here. We've finished off far better and younger managers than him (Dalglish, Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Keegan etc). Would you honestly rather have Kinnear than Pardew? I want them both out of the picture as neither are the long term answer. The one thing we can guarantee is that Kinnear won't be around long whereas Pardew could be here for 7 more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They won't give Kinnear the job but anyone who thinks they'll make a decent appointment is living in dreamland. What exactly are people basing it on? Blind faith? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 He has done better this season and to deny it is just a bit churlish imo. Despite some of the shite performances (everton 1st half etc) we have been keeping the ball on the deck and at least trying to play decent football. We've looked more organised and coherent and like we have some kind of game plan. I still don't think he's good enough for this club or the man to take us forward but he should get credit for the improvements we've seen this season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 'I don't know why everyone's obsessed with systems. Just head the ball, kick the ball, fill in gaps' - Lee Clark. A bit scary that he is bookies favourite to be our next manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 'I don't know why everyone's obsessed with systems. Just head the ball, kick the ball, fill in gaps' - Lee Clark. A bit scary that he is bookies favourite to be our next manager. Bloody hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I know it was in the heat of the moment after a 4-0 hammering but he looked rattled. Was asked about switching from 4 to a 3 at the back or vice versa and that was the response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I know it was in the heat of the moment after a 4-0 hammering but he looked rattled. Was asked about switching from 4 to a 3 at the back or vice versa and that was the response. Speculation that Warnock is getting the gig there this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 What's Pardew blamed the fans for? Anyone got a link please? Aye, I was wondering that. Seems like a few people are now using that as a criticism of him even saying that he blames us "every week". I'll admit to not reading much in the papers etc but most of the utterances I hear from Pardew regarding our support seem quite the opposite. I'd be really interested to learn more about him blaming us on a regular basis ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 If we beat the mackems I might have to re-asses my opinion of the bloke. There were other factors but the biggest contributing factor to our poor season last time around was him being a massive fanny. This season he has shown that a little but has also shown like he might actually have a spine, the derby is exactly the sort of game last season's Pardew would have s*** his pants about and tried desperately just not to lose, if we go for it and win he might start winning me around again Much better read on a Monday morning He corrected his mistake of Liverpool at home last season where he fielded a negative team and set up for a draw. This time around he sent out the right team and showed his attacking intent from the off. He was actually unlucky, as i feel if we hadn't of went down to 10 men, we were in with a serious chance of 3 points and fancied us to get them once we took the lead. Be interesting to see who he selects for the mackems, Taylor will probably come in if fit but harder choice for him is who should be playing up top as we still haven’t quite got the balance right in that part of the pitch. Gouffran’s work rate practically prevents him from taking the lead role, Remy more effective on the wing, Cisse out of form and Ben Arfa is new to that role so hard to judge off Saturday, going off this it has to be Sholaaaaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Going down to 10 men could perhaps have suited Pardew in this instance, just in terms of PR after a good first half. He's being praised for the backs to the wall performance of the second half now, but there's a nagging doubt we would have succumbed to that approach even if we had 11 men on the pitch. It's certainly happened in the past and he's had plenty of stick for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Going down to 10 men could perhaps have suited Pardew in this instance, just in terms of PR after a good first half. He's being praised for the backs to the wall performance of the second half now, but there's a nagging doubt we would have succumbed to that approach even if we had 11 men on the pitch. It's certainly happened in the past and he's had plenty of stick for it. Possibly so, but we were always a man short on the counter in which we were still very effective. Imagine we had a Sissoko bombing forward with Remy instead of Anita's little legs trying to keep up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never got to see the game, only the highlights on MOTD or GOS but they seemed to lean towards Liverpool. If someone said to me "would you take 4 points from cardiff and liverpool games?" Yes, I would have been snapping their hand off. The only stick in the neck result was Hull at home. If we had of won or drew that game we would have been hitting a good points total from those games played so far. I still dont like Pardew but he has picked the team up of recent. Lets see what happens in chicken town this sunday coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never got to see the game, only the highlights on MOTD or GOS but they seemed to lean towards Liverpool. If someone said to me "would you take 4 points from cardiff and liverpool games?" Yes, I would have been snapping their hand off. The only stick in the neck result was Hull at home. If we had of won or drew that game we would have been hitting a good points total from those games played so far. I still dont like Pardew but he has picked the team up of recent. Lets see what happens in chicken town this sunday coming. I note Gerrard managed to make Garth Crooks' team of the week despite being second best to Cabaye and Tiote most of the game. Media bias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never got to see the game, only the highlights on MOTD or GOS but they seemed to lean towards Liverpool. If someone said to me "would you take 4 points from cardiff and liverpool games?" Yes, I would have been snapping their hand off. The only stick in the neck result was Hull at home. If we had of won or drew that game we would have been hitting a good points total from those games played so far. I still dont like Pardew but he has picked the team up of recent. Lets see what happens in chicken town this sunday coming. I note Gerrard managed to make Garth Crooks' team of the week despite being second best to Cabaye and Tiote most of the game. Media bias. They seemed to edit the highlights to us nicking goals. I know they only have so many minutes to show for each match etc but howay man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah most of the headlines seem to imply we'd rescued a point - despite Liverpool never taking the lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never got to see the game, only the highlights on MOTD or GOS but they seemed to lean towards Liverpool. If someone said to me "would you take 4 points from cardiff and liverpool games?" Yes, I would have been snapping their hand off. The only stick in the neck result was Hull at home. If we had of won or drew that game we would have been hitting a good points total from those games played so far. I still dont like Pardew but he has picked the team up of recent. Lets see what happens in chicken town this sunday coming. Game was nothing like the MOTD highlights they massively weighted it to look like we were clinging on Yup, thats what it looked like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah most of the headlines seem to imply we'd rescued a point - despite Liverpool never taking the lead. Was only the last 10 minutes that they looked to have the 1 man advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah most of the headlines seem to imply we'd rescued a point - despite Liverpool never taking the lead. Was only the last 10 minutes that they looked to have the 1 man advantage. Yeh and we were still trying to win the game until late on - to be fair I don't think we had much option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 He has done better this season and to deny it is just a bit churlish imo. Despite some of the shite performances (everton 1st half etc) we have been keeping the ball on the deck and at least trying to play decent football. We've looked more organised and coherent and like we have some kind of game plan. I still don't think he's good enough for this club or the man to take us forward but he should get credit for the improvements we've seen this season so far. It depends on whether he can adapt to different challenges which will tell us far more about him than a couple of good performances. Two seasons ago he stumbled on a winning formula and it got us to 5th. The last season when the wonder goals dried up he didn't have a clue. Yes we are playing football from the back now, but it's took him two years to realise it's the way to go. More importantly, how is someone who has constantly made errors in judgement, suddenly going to become a shrewd manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 How is someone who has constantly made errors of judgement going to appoint a shrewd manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never got to see the game, only the highlights on MOTD or GOS but they seemed to lean towards Liverpool. If someone said to me "would you take 4 points from cardiff and liverpool games?" Yes, I would have been snapping their hand off. The only stick in the neck result was Hull at home. If we had of won or drew that game we would have been hitting a good points total from those games played so far. I still dont like Pardew but he has picked the team up of recent. Lets see what happens in chicken town this sunday coming. It's still really tight margins. Given the start we had last year that's what I would expect too. The only results we've had that have gone differently so far have been to pick up draws off Liverpool and West Ham where we lost last year and to lose away to Everton where we drew in 12/13. The real show of whether Pardew will improve on last season will come in November/December. We lost 8 out of 11 in that period last year. He cannot afford a similar mid-season run like that this time around. Chelsea (H) Tottenham Hotspur (A) Norwich City (H) West Bromwich Albion (H) Swansea City (A) Manchester United (A) Southampton (H) Crystal Palace (A) Stoke City (H) Arsenal (H) Those Green games should see us much better placed Come January 2014 than in January 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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