Einsinn Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 what is driving me nuts is that we seem to not be able to attack with pace... its like players are under instructions to hold on the ball and slow the play down when we attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. Having read this post, fwiw - I get your entire view point. Its valid...I don't agree with unwarrented anger towards AP b/c he's once again lost the derby and its compounded, imo, that they are the worst team in the league. Wasn't meaning to have a go at you in this thread as well...my AP anger was being incorrectly angered at my posts with you. I'll shut the fuck up now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Where was the hoffing from Newcastle ? We only started hoffing it after their late goal which is understandable because we were running out of time. No one who is honest and not a Pardew hater would say Sunderland played better and deserved their win. They just got lucky against the run of play. We would have won it on another day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Cisse surely must never get on again. Get rid in January, he's way to gone now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hard to imagine anyone getting less from more. So many of our top players have declined in form under this genius. Transfer window hardly matters when you know that the sharpness of a top player will be dullened to a round lump by the time Pards gets done with his tremendous management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Fucking hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. Win it how? With loads of possession due to how bad they were, but with absolutely no fucking idea how to fashion a chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. Bringing off your top goal scorer and replacing them with one player who is just a total pank and another player who is totally out of form/shit and you say he can't be blamed howay man!!! A total plank who's scored more times against Sunderland than anybody in our history, Milburn aside. He see's Cisse everyday in training, maybe he thought he was ready to make an impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Where was the hoffing from Newcastle ? We only started hoffing it after their late goal which is understandable because we were running out of time. No one who is honest and not a Pardew hater would say Sunderland played better and deserved their win. They just got lucky against the run of play. We would have won it on another day. No chance, we created nowt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It wasn't just the losing, it was the lack of passion and fight and we've played like that in the last few derbies under this bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. As i said in the match thread. A defensive ball winning holding player in Tiote (Yes he had a good game) vs a possession based calm player in Anita who could impose our quality on the floor. Ben Arfa on the left so we're not exposed down the right when hes clearly more of a direct threat there. Fair enough if you try it & the left back has the better of him, dont start with the negative presumption ffs. It says it all for me that at 1-0 down you had Cabaye make 2/3 ridiculous tackles, Tiote throwing a guy off for holding him & players launching shots from 35 yards out. No composure, no calmness. Pure panic. The manager is the one who puts the ethos into the side. We absolutely s*** ourselves against the worst side in the league & we never come back to win a game from behind. We couldnt be more affected by the slightest hint of doubt for a long time now. Its Pardew. I also said in the match thread that Anita would have been my choice to come on, just before half time. That said, Tiote was probably our best player today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. Bringing off your top goal scorer and replacing them with one player who is just a total pank and another player who is totally out of form/shit and you say he can't be blamed howay man!!! A total plank who's scored more times against Sunderland than anybody in our history, Milburn aside. He see's Cisse everyday in training, maybe he thought he was ready to make an impact. Jesus, man. Getting desperate now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Cisse surely must never get on again. Get rid in January, he's way to gone now His transformation is the most amazing I have ever seen. He literally can't do anything now, it's like having some twat out of the crowd on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew you have an appointment at the Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It wasn't just the losing, it was the lack of passion and fight and we've played like that in the last few derbies under this bloke. hes an embarassment now. Im embarassed I stood by him so long. Our players not turning up with thier best game to Derbies is totally unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. Bringing off your top goal scorer and replacing them with one player who is just a total pank and another player who is totally out of form/s*** and you say he can't be blamed howay man!!! A total plank who's scored more times against Sunderland than anybody in our history, Milburn aside. He see's Cisse everyday in training, maybe he thought he was ready to make an impact. I'm sure Shola has played against Sunderland more than most of our players as well. It means nothing as today showed. As for Cisse he's just garbage, the quicker people realise this the better, awful first touch, weak, slow poor in the air & one footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 f***ing hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. We started like we were unprepared and barely created anything against a horrific side. Sunderland today were as poor as they always are and will still get relegated. Accept the first half was awful. I said as much in the match thread. They were never going to sustain that tempo (and they didn't) and AP loaded the game with attacking subs to get the equaliser and then look for a winner. We were caught on the break with a screamer from a monkey who'll never score another like it. The very least we deserved today was a point and that would have been a good result. It's massively disappointing, of course, but the anger aimed at AP is imho, for once, unwarranted. And I hate the c***. PS: I f***ing knew Poyet would do this. So typical of him/his sides. We'll now have 'him' hanging over us for every derby until he f***s off or AP's contract expires. Having read this post, fwiw - I get your entire view point. Its valid...I don't agree with unwarrented anger towards AP b/c he's once again lost the derby and its compounded, imo, that they are the worst team in the league. Wasn't meaning to have a go at you in this thread as well...my AP anger was being incorrectly angered at my posts with you. I'll shut the fuck up now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Cisse surely must never get on again. Get rid in January, he's way to gone now His transformation is the most amazing I have ever seen. He literally can't do anything now, it's like having some t*** out of the crowd on the field. Bringing him on cost us the game, tbh. Was like being down to 10 men again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Fucking hell, suddenly feel like Ian W or Inochi. As I say, I'm a huge critic of AP, but there was only one team going to win that game until the wonder goal. Win it how? With loads of possession due to how bad they were, but with absolutely no fucking idea how to fashion a chance? Ok the goal was from a cross of shorts but we never seem to cross it with any purpose, our goals if not a long range effort from Cabaye or Ben Arfa are always pretty scrappy. I want to see a nice sweeping move like the W.B.A away goals 2 seasons back for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Endure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Some sympathy with his selection, tactical changes, and subs today. We could have won just as easily as we lost. But forget that, his record in derby's is shameful enough on its own for me now. If I could see it benefiting the team (and sadly I'm still not sure I can), I'd want him out tonight. You have to create things to win a game. We didn't create anything for 90 minutes against the worse team in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It's got to a point where he, nor the players, really know what's going on and where we are going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It wasn't just the losing, it was the lack of passion and fight and we've played like that in the last few derbies under this bloke. hes an embarassment now. Im embarassed I stood by him so long. Our players not turning up with thier best game to Derbies is totally unacceptable. It's quite noticable as well in the Derbies, the difference today compared to the fight last week was amazing. Pardew just bottles the derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We face a team starting the game at 110mph. They score due to having to play a kid at CB. Up against all of that, we came into the game second half, scored and should have gone on to achieve at least 1 point. They score a screamer on the break and all of a sudden the baby is thrown out with the bath water. If Cabaye had scored that, AP would be getting all of the plaudits for having shown some balls and thrown caution to the wind. It's a game that is changed in matters of seconds. Nobody saw that coming. It did. We were unfortunate and that's it. He's going nowhere and I'm pleased he's showing some will to attack games, albeit we started s***. Are we not allowed to start a derby at 110mph? Are we not allowed to have our players motivated enough to have a go from the start instead of bottling it? As for the game itself, we were clueless for most of it. Does anybody other than Pardew think our front 3 which started today were in the positions which suit them? I hope not. We weren't in the game kick off against one of the worst teams to play in the division. We should have been at them from the off instead of letting them get a goal before we were pushed into doing something. We shouldn't have been needing to go for a winner late in the game, we should have been in a better position by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It wasn't just the losing, it was the lack of passion and fight and we've played like that in the last few derbies under this bloke. hes an embarassment now. Im embarassed I stood by him so long. Our players not turning up with thier best game to Derbies is totally unacceptable. It's quite noticable as well in the Derbies, the difference today compared to the fight last week was amazing. Pardew just bottles the derby. How can this be. What does a Keegan with a 100% derby record say to players that a Pardew hasnt figured out? edit- they seemed to be yards quicker to every loose ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 lined us up in an attacking formation with no competent premier league standard centre forward and poor quality centre backs. Always a possibility that we will lose playing the better football in those circumstances - we have conceeded 2 soft goals for the second game in a row and not for the 1st time we looked clueless around the box. I think any team in this league would have a chance of a result against that XI. Coloccini may have defended better for the first and could have put his foot on the ball and helped us exert a bit more control when we were on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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