Guest bimpy474 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 This place is going to be very quiet next season if he does stay. Lots of people not watching/going to games. As much as hate the blokes football, if we play good football then i'd gladly be called all the names under the sun for doubting Pardew. The team comes first and always will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Considers Ameobi a key player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I was just gonna write "key players.... Shola Ameobi" surely gross misconduct alone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is one thing Pardew managed to achieve. Lowered expectation. Significantly. Fucking dodgy salesman. Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Turgid, negative, long ball, defensive, all these have been used to describe our team. Most accurate would be, 'boring as fuck' If our own fans find our own team sleep inducing. I wonder what the neutrals feel when they got to watch this shower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 “I hope they come in fancy dress and enjoy it. “Regardless of the score, thank God we’re here next year in the greatest league in the world.” He never said that, I refuse to believe it. Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is one thing Pardew managed to achieve. Lowered expectation. Significantly. f***ing dodgy salesman. Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Yes look at this typical ian w response. Like he doesn't know the answer to his own question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 What about all the chances the opposition miss? How many good chances did Liverpool spurn when they stuck 6 past us? Should they blame their players for it not being 10? Chances are missed. That's football. If you create enough GOOD ones, you'll probably win. But of all our shots last season, only 4% were in the 6 yard box. Four fucking percent. The joint worst record in the whole league. Been looking into this. I thought 4 % was awful. I compared it with previous seasons. 12% in 10/11. 6% in 11/12. Very damning of Pardew. But then, how did we manage so many shots within 6 yards back then? We pumped balls into Carroll, and he knocked them down for people to follow up at close range. It's the same tactic that Allardyce is using at West Ham now....and they sit top of the chart for "shots from within the 6 yard box" this year. I don't think Allardyce's brand of football is particularly easy on the eye. Then you can compare us to Spurs. People are very impressed with Villas Boas this year, aren't they? But they manage a similarly paltry 5% of THEIR shots from within 6 yards. You might think that means they just create more within the 18 yard box, but no.....we take 50% of shots from outside of the box...they take 55% of theirs from outside the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Might be a Giggs, but assuming Wigan go down, he would start the season as the 3rd longest serving manager in the league. could be 2nd tbh could see Stoke and Pulis parting ways http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers He's currently 16th on the list of long serving managers in English Football. Will go up to 14th once Fergie and Moyes officially leave. Only 34 current managers have been in place more than 1 year, only 21 over 2 years. Stability is a myth, Ferguson achieved what he did over time because he was an excellent manager and bought/developed brilliant players, he was also employed at a time where clubs generally gave the manager 4-5 seasons at least, the financial rewards were not so great and therefore the cost of a bad season or two was not really as drastic as it is now. Many Arsenal fans would insist that Wenger has long overstayed his welcome and is now actively holding the club back. If you look at the list of managers with more than 4 years service, how many have actually achieved anything other than not completely destroying their club. All of them, to me, have the distinct whiff of a club accepting mediocrity over success. Something we should never accept, but something Mike and his team of cash counters will be delighted with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 What about all the chances the opposition miss? How many good chances did Liverpool spurn when they stuck 6 past us? Should they blame their players for it not being 10? Chances are missed. That's football. If you create enough GOOD ones, you'll probably win. But of all our shots last season, only 4% were in the 6 yard box. Four f***ing percent. The joint worst record in the whole league. Been looking into this. I thought 4 % was awful. I compared it with previous seasons. 12% in 10/11. 6% in 11/12. Very damning of Pardew. But then, how did we manage so many shots within 6 yards back then? We pumped balls into Carroll, and he knocked them down for people to follow up at close range. It's the same tactic that Allardyce is using at West Ham now....and they sit top of the chart for "shots from within the 6 yard box" this year. I don't think Allardyce's brand of football is particularly easy on the eye. Then you can compare us to Spurs. People are very impressed with Villas Boas this year, aren't they? But they manage a similarly paltry 5% of THEIR shots from within 6 yards. You might think that means they just create more within the 18 yard box, but no.....we take 50% of shots from outside of the box...they take 55% of theirs from outside the box. Dreary me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Might be a Giggs, but assuming Wigan go down, he would start the season as the 3rd longest serving manager in the league. could be 2nd tbh could see Stoke and Pulis parting ways http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers He's currently 16th on the list of long serving managers in English Football. Will go up to 14th once Fergie and Moyes officially leave. Only 34 current managers have been in place more than 1 year, only 21 over 2 years. Stability is a myth, Ferguson achieved what he did over time because he was an excellent manager and bought/developed brilliant players, he was also employed at a time where clubs generally gave the manager 4-5 seasons at least, the financial rewards were not so great and therefore the cost of a bad season or two was not really as drastic as it is now. Many Arsenal fans would insist that Wenger has long overstayed his welcome and is now actively holding the club back. If you look at the list of managers with more than 4 years service, how many have actually achieved anything other than not completely destroying their club. All of them, to me, have the distinct whiff of a club accepting mediocrity over success. Something we should never accept, but something Mike and his team of cash counters will be delighted with. Good post Colin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is one thing Pardew managed to achieve. Lowered expectation. Significantly. f***ing dodgy salesman. Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Yes look at this typical ian w response. Like he doesn't know the answer to his own question. Thanks, that clears it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Guess if he's not leaving I'll just have to get behind him and hope he learns from his mistakes. There has been in some of his quotes recently to suggest he might have done. Either way, I'll be absolutely flabbergasted if we're sitting 17th after 36 games last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 “Our fans can turn up and enjoy it,” he said. “I hope they come in fancy dress and enjoy it. “Regardless of the score, thank God we’re here next year in the greatest league in the world.” Ah, choices, choices, choices. Executioner, Death, Judge, Mafioso, Roman Emperor with massive thumb... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 He's not saying that, though, is he? Isn't more of retort to the whole 'woe is me, my life can't possibly go on' comments that we're subjected to an a daily basis? I'd put it down to people being a bit more emotional towards the club than others. At least they're not just some part-time posters who have just come back again after everything has turned out OK to try and wind people up. I've not agreed with much that you've said in the various threads but at least you have been present battling in your corner and at least arguing your case, not just turning up to belittle people. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 He's not saying that, though, is he? Isn't more of retort to the whole 'woe is me, my life can't possibly go on' comments that we're subjected to an a daily basis? I'd put it down to people being a bit more emotional towards the club than others. At least they're not just some part-time posters who have just come back again after everything has turned out OK to try and wind people up. I've not agreed with much that you've said in the various threads but at least you have been present battling in your corner and at least arguing your case, not just turning up to belittle people. #SOOPAFANPOSTER These people aren't genuine - if they are, then they need to seek urgent professional advice. You'd have thought we'd been relegated with the way they're posting. It's not been pretty, it's not been as straightforward as it should have been, but it's done now. If you're genuinely angry or wanting to do something about the situation, then go and help out KI and his "fruitless protest" at the weekend. If you're not able to do that, then chip in with the other sensible idea in that thread of putting the failings that you've seen all season into words and figures that can be distributed to the media/club/fans. Do something proactive about the club you love, or do something else. All this negativity must be ruining your mood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Guess if he's not leaving I'll just have to get behind him and hope he learns from his mistakes. There has been in some of his quotes recently to suggest he might have done. Either way, I'll be absolutely flabbergasted if we're sitting 17th after 36 games last season. Next Season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is one thing Pardew managed to achieve. Lowered expectation. Significantly. f***ing dodgy salesman. Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Yes look at this typical ian w response. Like he doesn't know the answer to his own question. Thanks, that clears it up. You're welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 “Our fans can turn up and enjoy it,” he said. “I hope they come in fancy dress and enjoy it. “Regardless of the score, thank God we’re here next year in the greatest league in the world.” Ah, choices, choices, choices. Executioner, Death, Judge, Mafioso, Roman Emperor with massive thumb... Benitez...Martinez...Kinnear....Peter Quigley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Even talks of having new coaches brought in for Pardew lol It's laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Might be a Giggs, but assuming Wigan go down, he would start the season as the 3rd longest serving manager in the league. could be 2nd tbh could see Stoke and Pulis parting ways http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers He's currently 16th on the list of long serving managers in English Football. Will go up to 14th once Fergie and Moyes officially leave. Only 34 current managers have been in place more than 1 year, only 21 over 2 years. Stability is a myth, Ferguson achieved what he did over time because he was an excellent manager and bought/developed brilliant players, he was also employed at a time where clubs generally gave the manager 4-5 seasons at least, the financial rewards were not so great and therefore the cost of a bad season or two was not really as drastic as it is now. Many Arsenal fans would insist that Wenger has long overstayed his welcome and is now actively holding the club back. If you look at the list of managers with more than 4 years service, how many have actually achieved anything other than not completely destroying their club. All of them, to me, have the distinct whiff of a club accepting mediocrity over success. Something we should never accept, but something Mike and his team of cash counters will be delighted with. Good post Colin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Doesn't he? That's incredible if true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Doesn't he? That's incredible if true. He doesn't attend games. I'll be damned if he doesn't watch our games on TV / DVD's though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. I don't blame people for staying away at all, it gets unbearable sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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