Wullie Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We have several outstanding players imo (I have always said that) and once in a while, they'll prove that, as they did today in the second half. The manager's job is to get the consistent best out of them and he's still shown no signs of doing so. You could put a tramp in charge of Barcelona's players and they'd still occasionally blitz someone. It's not proof of anything when the evidence against is so consistent and overwhelming. He's certainly making a better fist of it than last season but having personally set the bar so low himself, that in itself is not worth any congratulation whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We won b/c his Plan A worked. Had he had to switch to Plan B, we know the evidence in the past of that. No bueno. Isn't having a plan that works a good thing though? More times than not Plan A doesn't work man, you know that. Evidenced by his shit managerial record and the lack of wins we've had over the course of the past 2 seasons. OK, but even so. He thought of a way that he believed we could beat Chelsea, and we went and beat Chelsea. It's a bizarre kind of masochistic logic to then go 'yes, but we all know he'd have been in the shit if it hadn't worked'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yep, fair point. Just thing it's a shame that we can't even really enjoy a massive win like today. I'm thrilled we've won, tbh. I'm just not going to sit back and give a man a smile and plaudits who's made a mockery of the position...including his pre and post match comments about his boss. He needs to shut his mouth, thank the fans for CONTINUED support and his players who put in a shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 His pre match comments were disgusting, fuck him. I'm still going to enjoy the fantastic victory today....and not think about that wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 How many points did we have after 10 games last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Last season we had 14 points after 10 games with a -2 goal difference, today we have 14 points from 10 games with a -2 goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 How many points did we have after 10 games last season? Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Last season we had 14 points after 10 games with a -2 goal difference, today we have 14 points from 10 games with a -2 goal difference. Would you say we're as bad as we were last season Mick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Last season we had 14 points after 10 games with a -2 goal difference, today we have 14 points from 10 games with a -2 goal difference. No Europa mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Would you say we're as bad as we were last season Mick? I wouldn't say we're any better, for that to happen we need to string a few results and performances together, instead of us blowing hot and cold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Would you say we're as bad as we were last season Mick? I wouldn't say we're any better, for that to happen we need to string a few results and performances together, instead of us blowing hot and cold. Fair enough, let's hope we manage it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Lost 2 I'd expect to win. Won 1 and drawn 1 I'd expect to lose. He's still lower than he should be....and said that himself after the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We have several outstanding players imo (I have always said that) and once in a while, they'll prove that, as they did today in the second half. The manager's job is to get the consistent best out of them and he's still shown no signs of doing so. You could put a tramp in charge of Barcelona's players and they'd still occasionally blitz someone. It's not proof of anything when the evidence against is so consistent and overwhelming. He's certainly making a better fist of it than last season but having personally set the bar so low himself, that in itself is not worth any congratulation whatsoever. No, I don't agree, that couldn't explains why we can perform that well "consistently" against Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea. We have good players but compare with them we are nothing. My take is we will never, never get a consistent series of results because of Pardew's style. He simply loves to play tactical game against the opponents, and he nearly did it every match. If he got it right we can get 3 points against any teams, but if he got it wrong we can also lose to any teams. It is just like gambling. All or nothing. We can either get a 5th finish or relegation and it is only depending on his luck. It is fucking crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 As I quickly calculated, game for game, we are 3 points better off - taking Cardiff as Wigan and Hull as Reading. Today doesn't really change my longer-term opinion at all. He'll have us a bit further away from relegation, but we'll be in that tight mid-table pack. Get lucky and we'll have the couple of extra points to be at the upper end of that, thanks to the quality we clearly have, shown today. Those comments though man about Ashley. Got as good a chance as any now of putting a good home run together until new year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Would you say we're as bad as we were last season Mick? I wouldn't say we're any better, for that to happen we need to string a few results and performances together, instead of us blowing hot and cold. Fair enough, let's hope we manage it. 6 or so wins from 54 games of the opposition scoring first under Pardew suggests theres quite a long running issue. When you are limited to keeping a clean sheet or scoring first to win a game, you will be inconsistant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Today was only the 2nd time we've seen us win at home in the league from 5 attempts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We've been far better this season, even if it's just for the fact we are playing better football. Points tally might be the same but nobody can deny how much our football has changed and is much more pleasing on the eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Well, whilst you can debate whether to give him credit for the team's performance or not, one thing is for certain, this shite about being undermined by Ashley/innear spouted in the media has been truly dispelled as myth. Those comments are disgraceful. Fuck all in the way of humility and sensitivity. He's the worst of the pack imo as at least Ashley never comes out and pretends to be on our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We won b/c his Plan A worked. Had he had to switch to Plan B, we know the evidence in the past of that. No bueno. Isn't having a plan that works a good thing though? More times than not Plan A doesn't work man, you know that. Evidenced by his shit managerial record and the lack of wins we've had over the course of the past 2 seasons. OK, but even so. He thought of a way that he believed we could beat Chelsea, and we went and beat Chelsea. It's a bizarre kind of masochistic logic to then go 'yes, but we all know he'd have been in the shit if it hadn't worked'. We had a good game plan and we worked well as a team. These are the qualities we haven't shown for far too many games under Pardew and that's why I'm not a fan at all. Great result and performance today though, but even a broken clock is right two times a day. He needs to show he can adapt to different teams and get the best out what is a very gifted squad of players consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We've been far better this season, even if it's just for the fact we are playing better football. Points tally might be the same but nobody can deny how much our football has changed and is much more pleasing on the eye. So far this season, we've been as inconsistent as last season. The last 20 minutes today were good and I hope that we carry that into our next game because we're capable of playing that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 What did he say pre-match ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 What did he say pre-match ? Lets win today for Mike...as the stick given out this week was harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Deserves credit today, one of those rare occasions where it all works out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We've been far better this season, even if it's just for the fact we are playing better football. Points tally might be the same but nobody can deny how much our football has changed and is much more pleasing on the eye. So far this season, we've been as inconsistent as last season. The last 20 minutes today were good and I hope that we carry that into our next game because we're capable of playing that way. Just the last 20? Can't be serious. We nullified the threat of Hazard, Mata and Oscar. It was excellent, the work rate we put in was superb and each player did their job to a high standard. We looked to attack them when the opportunity arose but priority was to make sure we stopped Chelsea first, and we did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Deserves credit but i wish he'd keep his gob shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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