alexf Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 It was just the way you phrased it Surely having better players would give us a better chance not a worse one? But I agree it's not worth it if they are only a slight improvement. My point was Jonas is the current starting left winger and it makes me sad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Downing will assist Carroll for one of his goals against us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. That team will destroy us, cant wait to see Pardew try to out long-ball west ham lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Thats a team with a very defined ceiling on how well they will do as well as a floor in which they'll not fall. A classic premiership team written all over it...and yes I'd be scared shitless to play that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Classic ? Don't know about that, for a 90's team . Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Classic ? Don't know about that, for a 90's team . Yes. Yeah I meant it that way but was terribly vague...my bad. classic = vintage = standard 90's style = classic big sam team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Classic ? Don't know about that, for a 90's team . Yes. Yeah I meant it that way but was terribly vague...my bad. classic = vintage = standard 90's style = classic big sam team. I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good That's a horrible side. I like diame however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 It was just the way you phrased it Surely having better players would give us a better chance not a worse one? But I agree it's not worth it if they are only a slight improvement. My point was Jonas is the current starting left winger and it makes me sad As you say, not worth it for a slight improvement. If Dowing was coming here on a free and at a reasonable wage? Sure, he's better than Jonas. If Downing is coming here for a fee and wages that are the same that is being touted for someone like Ince or Sinclair? Fuck Downing, especially as the contract is likely going to take him up to 33/34 years old. We have already had far too many players like that, ironically the one we are talking about replacing is one of them! We will more than likely end up with none but I really don't want us signing players just because they are better than those who shouldn't be in the first team anyway which is exactly what Downing would be imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good That's a horrible side. I like diame however. Horrible? They're all effective other then Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Certainly safe from relegation, that team looks like a Pardew wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good That's a horrible side. I like diame however. Horrible? They're all effective other then Downing. Jonas is effective if you need him to run all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good That's a horrible side. I like diame however. Horrible? They're all effective other then Downing. Jonas is effective if you need him to run all day. We should sign mo farah then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. To 12th or 13th yeah.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Horrible? They're all effective other then Downing. I've never been a huge admirer of Carroll, even when at us, happily saw him leave for 35 mill and never to return unless it was on the very cheap (not 17 mil or whatever big sam paid). Nolan/Barton are consistent but hardly going to set the place alight. You know what you'll get with them but they are both in their 30's. Downing and Jarvis are just your typical average English wingers, very inconsistent and limited in terms of natural footballing ability. Put them all together and they’ve just got a side to hit Carroll with and hope Nolan feeds on scraps inside of the box. Can safely say I won’t be tuning in to watch this side on Sky/BT many times during the season. Will be horrible and painful to watch imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Carroll Downing Nolan Jarvis Diame Barton Its about as Allardyce as you can get. Looks pretty good That's a horrible side. I like diame however. Horrible? They're all effective other then Downing. Jonas is effective if you need him to run all day. I said the side looked 'pretty good' for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. To 12th or 13th yeah.... They were a few points off 8th last year with some bad injuries. They'll basically be nowhere near relegation which is something I'm envious of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. To 12th or 13th yeah.... They were a few points off 8th last year with some bad injuries. They'll basically be nowhere near relegation which is something I'm envious of. They were 5 points ahead of us and I'm fairly comfortable assuming our injuries were worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. To 12th or 13th yeah.... They were a few points off 8th last year with some bad injuries. They'll basically be nowhere near relegation which is something I'm envious of. These are just another club i'd happily wager anyone that we finish above of. Actually think they may finish a respectable 10th with this side but they will just hurt everyones eyes for the entire season with the dross football on show. Anyone who thinks we should be envious or fearful of West Ham may as well just give this season up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 That team would ruin us. The way to destroy that team would be to be able to keep possession, and pass it round them, which would be quite easy to do with the likes of Nolan and Barton in midfield. Nolan would be knackered after 15 mins, and Barton would just get frustrated and start kicking everyone. Unfortunately, we have not been able to master passing and moving effectively enough to be able to accomplish that against this kind of team. That West Ham team would essentially pummel any team, who can't move the ball around well, but would get decked by the "classier" teams in the league, and by that I don't necessarily mean the top teams either. A Swansea would make life very difficult for them for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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