Cajun Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ireland has got shit abs. They are marginally better than mine. Marginally. I'm a fat fuck, would love a stomach like that. Stop it ur beutifull. I have a 24 hour glass figure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I have a 24 gallon glass figure True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Hurts because its true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2524890/Manchester-Uniteds-Wilfried-Zaha-set-to-Newcastle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Do not want.... if we were to loan players we wont have permanently should at least do a Everton and loan actual quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Aye, much rather stick with Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Obertan doesn't start to begin with and what he's doing above Ben Arfa in the pecking order in some games this season is down to Pardew's idiocy. He wouldn't improve the team so we are just padding the squad for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Obertan doesn't start to begin with and what he's doing above Ben Arfa in the pecking order in some games this season is down to Pardew's idiocy. He wouldn't improve the team so we are just padding the squad for the sake of it. Of course he would. Just because you don't rate him doesn't mean he isn't a talented player. He clearly is. He wouldn't displace anyone in the squad who didn't deserve displacing and he'd be an asset off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I doubt i'm the only one who thinks he wouldn't improve the starting eleven tbh.... i don't want players which make the disparity in quality between the starting eleven and the bench even bigger than it already is. I want players that would actually improve he starting eleven and for me he doesn't do that.... also his talent doesn't outweigh his lack of brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Well, when you put it that way, I feel even less convinced of your position. We should be looking to improve the squad as a whole, not scoffing at players who don't walk straight into the starting XI. And considering the only true winger on our squad is Gabriel Obertan, I'd be willing to give this guy a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Makes far more sense to be one of the only clubs our level not benefiting from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Agree with Mole ect, don't fancy loaning in squad fillers, we have better players than him on the bench who should already be getting far more pitch time than they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Makes far more sense to be one of the only clubs our level not benefiting from it. its the principle of the matter. I would much rather give a chance to one of our kids than loan one of manchester uniteds regardless of ability gap because at the end of the day its a ridiculous short term measure and only to manchester uniteds benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Makes far more sense to be one of the only clubs our level not benefiting from it. Having Lukaku for a season would be benefiting from it, having Zaha for a season wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think people are underrating Zaha personally. He is a good player who was a level above anything in the lower division and hasn't been given any sort of chance for his new club. This is not his fault, and I believe he will still prove to be quality at this level. That said, we are fairly well stocked out wide. Unless Obertan and/or Jonas are leaving, there is no reason to bring more players in for this area. A striker is much more pressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a f*** and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will f*** off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Preventing ourselves from acquiring quality players for a season without paying a transfer fee is going to help NUFC compete with the upper echelon of the league? The club should do what is best for itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. I don't think loyalty is the issue, more like weighing up the negative aspects of a short term loan vs the positives in each case. Lukaku for instance is so good and would improve our first team to such a degree that he'd be worth taking even with no possibility of a permanent transfer. Zaha just isn't, not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a f*** and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will f*** off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Preventing ourselves from acquiring quality players for a season without paying a transfer fee is going to help NUFC compete with the upper echelon of the league? The club should do what is best for itself. and when these players go back to their parent club? its short term thinking at its worst. we should be looking to sign young players of ability on permanent deals not borrow them for a temporary lift which will fade once he's gone anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Makes far more sense to be one of the only clubs our level not benefiting from it. Having Lukaku for a season would be benefiting from it, having Zaha for a season wouldn't. It's a matter of opinion, he was regarded as one of the most exciting young players around 6 months ago but his stock has obviously dropped now. Sturridge wasn't looking upto much when he went to Bolton, Andros Townsend's been all over the place and has only really started to look the part recently, even the likes of Wellbeck and Rose have done canny jobs for the mackems in the recent past. I'd rather not do it either but when you have an owner that spends fuck-all, beggars can't be choosers and we 100% need more depth and variety in the forward/wide positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Realistically we won't be competing with them, not in the long term so I don't see how improving our options is going to be a detriment to us. Its not like Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc... can't just go out and buy a shed load of talent whenever they please. These are clubs who have players struggling to get an appearance who would walk into our side. As for fattening up, what does that really mean? If these players are good enough they will get loans anyway, why not improve the quality of our squad if we get the chance rather than letting them go to our real rivals while we have our 'pride'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a f*** and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will f*** off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Preventing ourselves from acquiring quality players for a season without paying a transfer fee is going to help NUFC compete with the upper echelon of the league? The club should do what is best for itself. Jonas and Obertan should be out of the door as they're not good performers in the wide positions and will not improve. If they left then you've only got Gouffran, Ben Arfa and Remy with injuries and suspensions to deal with and also the likelihood that one of them will have to fill in centrally now and then, or more often than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them. This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Realistically we won't be competing with them, not in the long term so I don't see how improving our options is going to be a detriment to us. Its not like Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc... can't just go out and buy a shed load of talent whenever they please. These are clubs who have players struggling to get an appearance who would walk into our side. As for fattening up, what does that really mean? If these players are good enough they will get loans anyway, why not improve the quality of our squad if we get the chance rather than letting them go to our real rivals while we have our 'pride'. I'd rather hang onto pride and hope that with intelligent enough planning and leadership from top to bottom of the club that in time we could compete with them again rather than wave the white flag and admit we'll never be better than them because if thats the case then what the fuck is the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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