2014 FIFA World Cup Brasil™ - Europe vs. America

[Guest palnese]

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Not a foul

 

That picture means nothing, look at the moving pictures ffs. Any single image can look worse or better.

 

I have looked at the moving pictures. Marquez is nowhere near the ball and his only intention is to stop Robben skipping past him.

 

I couldn't care less what Marquez was up to, Robben threw himself to the floor, he wasn't knocked or nudged, he threw himself over a leg. Threw as in dive, as in cheat.

Ok lets just never have penalties awarded again

 

Oh my fucking God.

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Not a foul

 

That picture means nothing, look at the moving pictures ffs. Any single image can look worse or better.

 

I have looked at the moving pictures. Marquez is nowhere near the ball and his only intention is to stop Robben skipping past him.

 

I couldn't care less what Marquez was up to, Robben threw himself to the floor, he wasn't knocked or nudged, he threw himself over a leg. Threw as in dive, as in cheat.

Ok lets just never have penalties awarded again

 

Yes because that's exactly what i was saying wasn't it. Twit.

[S.S.R.]

Costa Rica's clearances are always panicked and hopeless.

[Unbelievable]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

 

Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position.

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Not a foul

 

That picture means nothing, look at the moving pictures ffs. Any single image can look worse or better.

 

I have looked at the moving pictures. Marquez is nowhere near the ball and his only intention is to stop Robben skipping past him.

 

I couldn't care less what Marquez was up to, Robben threw himself to the floor, he wasn't knocked or nudged, he threw himself over a leg. Threw as in dive, as in cheat.

Ok lets just never have penalties awarded again

 

Yes because that's exactly what i was saying wasn't it. Twit.

Twit Refs don't give penalties unless somebody falls to the floor so if players took your advice there would never be penalties

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He

got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

This is a bit different because Fred wasn't pulled at all. Also significantly more incidental contact is generally allowed above the waist and should be.

[Flip]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

 

Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position.

 

That's ridiculous, Fred could've turn and shot if the slight touch doesn't come either. Neither are penalties, but I'll leave it at that.

[The Prophet]

This is just vintage Greece.

[Unbelievable]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

 

Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position.

 

That's ridiculous, Fred could've turn and shot if the slight touch doesn't come either. Neither are penalties, but I'll leave it at that.

 

[Guest bimpy474]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

 

Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position.

 

Eh ? players slightly catching players happens over and over and over in every single game, it's up to the ref to decide if the contact warrants a free kick. Or if a player has dived as Robben does on a million occasions. It's a contact game ffs, not a tarts paradise of luvvie acting school.

[Guest firetotheworks]

The original debate was about Robben 'deserving' a pen because he 'could have went down' earlier...the penalty was a foul, it was just the way Chiles was going on, the really ugly man.

 

[Incognito]

I remember Michael Owen falling over an outstretched foot against Argentina in 02. And there's little difference between that incident and today's.  Both were pens. Both left slightly unsavoury tastes for the over dramatising.

[Flip]

 

Lovrens left arm, holds his shoulder. Check the moving images again. There's barely any contact, but I don't see how Robben gets away with it for you but not Fred.

[Unbelievable]

I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty.

 

Simple as that really.

 

Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

 

Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position.

 

Eh ? players slightly catching players happens over and over and over in every single game, it's up to the ref to decide if the contact warrants a free kick. Or if a player has dived as Robben does on a million occasions. It's a contact game ffs, not a tarts paradise of luvvie acting school.

 

Out of interest, and obviously inconsequential with regards to the later shenigans, but did you think the incident in the first half was a penalty?

[Unbelievable]

Dirty Greek cunts

[Foluwashola]

Robben one was actually a pel, Fred's wasn't.

 

Obviously nee excuse for Robben to have a fit.

[Beren]

Ooh. Fucking Greece. Thought that was a pen for a sec.

[Guest palnese]

Good decision, that.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Love that Campbell lad. Cracking player.

[Keefaz]

Nice tackle.

[Flip]

I remember Michael Owen falling over an outstretched foot against Argentina in 02. And there's little difference between that incident and today's.  Both were pens. Both left slightly unsavoury tastes for the over dramatising.

 

The thing is, Robbens foot doesn't get stuck or anything, he actually throws himself with a slight touch on his toes. We might as well blow every contact then. Robben THROWS himself, he doesn't fall or over exaggerate. I'm a big defender of over exaggerating, but there's a difference between that and falling on purpose.

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

 

Lovrens left arm, holds his shoulder. Check the moving images again. There's barely any contact, but I don't see how Robben gets away with it for you but not Fred.

He never grabs his arm, this is a still from when Fred is beginning his slow motion dive. Having your arm on top of someone else's arm will never be a penalty. The only contact is his hand lightly on his clavicle.

 

Greece don;'t even attack. They just hold the ball until they lose it and settle back.

[Disco]

Shenanigans.

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Not a foul

 

That picture means nothing, look at the moving pictures ffs. Any single image can look worse or better.

 

I have looked at the moving pictures. Marquez is nowhere near the ball and his only intention is to stop Robben skipping past him.

 

I couldn't care less what Marquez was up to, Robben threw himself to the floor, he wasn't knocked or nudged, he threw himself over a leg. Threw as in dive, as in cheat.

Ok lets just never have penalties awarded again

 

Yes because that's exactly what i was saying wasn't it. Twit.

Twit Refs don't give penalties unless somebody falls to the floor so if players took your advice there would never be penalties

 

The Robben one before was a penalty and the one for 'West Ham was it ?', Taylor getting impeded by Sagna i think, was a penalty. You judge each incident on it's merits, a player doesn't have to knocked down (Taylor) for a penalty to be given, but the contact has to be enough for a ref to give it.

 

Diving is what i'm talking about, and Robben dived, the slight contact didn't warrant the reaction and wasn't enough for a foul imo...if that does then nearly every contact on a pitch will warrant the same decision, it's ludicrous.

[Unbelievable]

Karagounis please