Hanshithispantz Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's fucking mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was prouder in that defeat than I've been in most England victories over the last few years at least. It's odd. I thought we were very good aside from when it truly mattered. I thought the BBC pundits were all spot on as well. Totally agree KI. Great to see an England team with some drive and intention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Thought Baines was pretty rank unfortunately. Really like Baines too I thought both full backs were naff but Baines moreso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all our players fit unlike them. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all out players fit unlike then. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. It was the best and brightest England performance at a tournament for a while. It shows how low our stock has fallen though that people are proud of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. What are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was prouder in that defeat than I've been in most England victories over the last few years at least. It's odd. I thought we were very good aside from when it truly mattered. I thought the BBC pundits were all spot on as well. Aye. We were the better team but Italy are masters of the full victory. If we turn up for the next two we shouldn't have a problem going through like. Love Costa Rica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. What are you talking about? I said it was arguable at best that Sturridge is better than Rooney. Your position is that it 'isn't arguable', yet you think Sturridge is better. You need to look the word up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Anyhow why is the England thread locked?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Both sides had good chances I felt Italy out played us and deserved to win tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Both sides had good chances I felt Italy out played us and deserved to win tbh. Outplayed seems very harsh to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Attacking wise England were very dangerous and caused Italy numerous problems, but certain individuals just didn't perform and that centre of midfield is too slow and too cautious. I like Henderson, but you can't have him and Gerrard in there together. I'd have Barkley in there as he has the energy and ball carrying skills to not only work the opposition midfield, but to also help out Gerrard defensively. I'd play Rooney deeper too and push Wellbeck wide left with Sterling wide right. Those two have the legs to help out their full-back and support the attack. ------- ----Gerrard Barkley------- ---------------Rooney------- Sterling ----- Sturridge -------- Wellbeck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Pirlo was majestic as well tbf. Casual as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Both sides had good chances I felt Italy out played us and deserved to win tbh. Outplayed seems very harsh to me. I think in a footballing sense we were outplayed. We were reliant on the counter attack and somewhat one dimensional for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Attacking wise England were very dangerous and caused Italy numerous problems, but certain individuals just didn't perform and that centre of midfield is too slow and too cautious. I like Henderson, but you can't have him and Gerrard in there together. I'd have Barkley in there as he has the energy and ball carrying skills to not only work the opposition midfield, but to also help out Gerrard defensively. I'd play Rooney deeper too and push Wellbeck wide left with Sterling wide right. Those two have the legs to help out their full-back and support the attack. ------- ----Gerrard Barkley------- ---------------Rooney------- Sterling ----- Sturridge -------- Wellbeck I like the sentiment but a 4-2-31 should be played with a double pivot for me playing Barkley would leave us massively exposed for especially as Gerrard is lacking defensively. There is a reason why June play Pirlo with two box to box midfielders in front of them and that is with 3 centre halfs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I thought Gerrard done what was expected of him tbh, not to any great level but he made himself available in the centre and distributed the ball well. Him and Henderson were pretty much alone in the centre and expected to feed the forwards where as Italy packed it with Pirlo, De Rossi, Verratti and Marchisio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Kept thinking throughout the match that Prandelli looked like Bob Mortimer with more hair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all out players fit unlike then. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. It was the best and brightest England performance at a tournament for a while. It shows how low our stock has fallen though that people are proud of it. Shouldn't forget who you were playing against. Italy have a knack of making you feel you've had the upper hand in the game but somehow lost against the run of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 The usual people spaffing over Pirlo and hating on Rooney. Love a scapegoat do the English. Some assist by the Roonburger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all out players fit unlike then. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. It was the best and brightest England performance at a tournament for a while. It shows how low our stock has fallen though that people are proud of it. Shouldn't forget who you were playing against. Italy have a knack of making you feel you've had the upper hand in the game but somehow lost against the run of play. But nobody feels like that. Italy were just superior in every department as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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