sunderland 2 - 1 Newcastle United - 27/10/13 - post-match reaction from page 47

[bhoywhonder]

2 days and no commemorative T-shirts? They must be getting lax in their approach to this fixture, or after 2-in-a-row are they taking it for granted now? Thanks Pardew, you tit.

[Paully]

 

2 days and no commemorative T-shirts? They must be getting lax in their approach to this fixture, or after 2-in-a-row are they taking it for granted now? Thanks Pardew, you tit.

 

http://www.alsshop.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=739&zenid=edab42b3d52527b30d2686610836caf3

[LFEE]

Knew we would get beat, people on here were predicting 3 and 4 nil but f***ing hell, our manager is the biggest cowardly c*** in Football and he hasn't got a b****** clue either, we were never going to win.

 

Probably been mentioned already but before the game getting into the Stadium of s**** was a joke, surprised no one got injured.

 

was a f***ing shambles, the whole stewarding through the game. They're still incapable of hosting this game without the risk of people getting hurt. Hopefully they go down and end up with more manageable 20k crowds. That said the brainless bunch of 20 lads who caused the crush outside turnstile 71 allegedly to try and rush the turn styles because some of them didn't have tickets want to take a long look at themselves too.

 

That's where I was, heard a few without tickets went over like, infact you could tell in the ground as the stairs were f***ing chocker.

 

Heard about that, how bad was it? Loads of people around me got in without tickets, it was absolutely rammed.

 

Anyone could have walked in without a ticket. The fire exit doors were opened once the turnstile was broke. Worst thing about the away down there is knowing you're going to get crushed 3 times - once at Central, again at the turnstiles and again at St Peters on the way back. Horrible, horrible feeling. At one point on Sunday I was lifted off the floor and was kept in the air being crushed inbetween two blokes. One day, there'll be a death at a derby game because the police escorts are shambolic.

 

Well... All i can say is i feel very lucky to still be able to walk today as i was one of the ones crushed... My knee is swollen and bruised... Calf is done in... Ribs sore... Back hurts...

 

Police brought us up far too late for people not to start panicking when they saw the crowds which were caused by all the turnstiles jamming...

 

A steward was pressurised into open the side door but didn't move the wheelie bin out the way which toppled over and blocked the bottom of the door (only one would open as the other jammed and started to buckle under the pressure)... Everyone charged from the back to get through a single door not being able to see the bin was in the way... I got my leg jammed between bin and wall  and span 180 degrees and almost had the life squeezed out of me... Possibly one if not thee scariest moment in my life... The game just passed me by to be honest...

 

SAFC rang me back today after leaving them a message yesterday... They are aware of the events but tried to distance themselves as you'd expect... I might not let this one drop so easy... It was disgraceful...

[Dave]

That's terrible.

[Superior Acuña]

2 days and no commemorative T-shirts? They must be getting lax in their approach to this fixture, or after 2-in-a-row are they taking it for granted now? Thanks Pardew, you tit.

 

It's tragic when we've made them so used to beating us that they don't instantly release a load of merchandise to commemorate a shite 2-1 victory.

[Greg]

Knew we would get beat, people on here were predicting 3 and 4 nil but f***ing hell, our manager is the biggest cowardly c*** in Football and he hasn't got a b****** clue either, we were never going to win.

 

Probably been mentioned already but before the game getting into the Stadium of s**** was a joke, surprised no one got injured.

 

was a f***ing shambles, the whole stewarding through the game. They're still incapable of hosting this game without the risk of people getting hurt. Hopefully they go down and end up with more manageable 20k crowds. That said the brainless bunch of 20 lads who caused the crush outside turnstile 71 allegedly to try and rush the turn styles because some of them didn't have tickets want to take a long look at themselves too.

 

That's where I was, heard a few without tickets went over like, infact you could tell in the ground as the stairs were f***ing chocker.

 

Heard about that, how bad was it? Loads of people around me got in without tickets, it was absolutely rammed.

 

Very bad, I nearly got crushed to death and feared for my life at one point. A mixture of incompetence from SAFC staff and brain dead idiots in our support.

 

I've only missed one Sunderland away game since 2006, don't think I'll bother going back.

[Andymc1]

Knew we would get beat, people on here were predicting 3 and 4 nil but f***ing hell, our manager is the biggest cowardly c*** in Football and he hasn't got a b****** clue either, we were never going to win.

 

Probably been mentioned already but before the game getting into the Stadium of s**** was a joke, surprised no one got injured.

 

was a f***ing shambles, the whole stewarding through the game. They're still incapable of hosting this game without the risk of people getting hurt. Hopefully they go down and end up with more manageable 20k crowds. That said the brainless bunch of 20 lads who caused the crush outside turnstile 71 allegedly to try and rush the turn styles because some of them didn't have tickets want to take a long look at themselves too.

 

That's where I was, heard a few without tickets went over like, infact you could tell in the ground as the stairs were f***ing chocker.

 

Heard about that, how bad was it? Loads of people around me got in without tickets, it was absolutely rammed.

 

Very bad, I nearly got crushed to death and feared for my life at one point. A mixture of incompetence from SAFC staff and brain dead idiots in our support.

 

I've only missed one Sunderland away game since 2006, don't think I'll bother going back.

 

The whole day is a bit shit really down there. The majority of our support think they're Danny Dyer for the day as well, the amount of stone island clobber was embarrasing.

 

When a was getting squashed against a bolder at the metro station I was in actual fear for a while like. In order to stop the problems getting into the ground I think they need to do two escorts. The one escort results in too many people arriving at the turnstiles at the same time, there needs to be some sort of filter so people are arriving gradually.

[David Icke - Son of God]

The carry on at St Peters on the way back is ridiculous. Every year it happens and every year people get crushed. Daft.

[Greg]

They need to start checking tickets much earlier than at the turnstyles, as I've experienced a few times in Europe.

[geordiesteve710]

They need to start checking tickets much earlier than at the turnstyles, as I've experienced a few times in Europe.

 

that would be my solution- check tickets at the station before boarding metros. Tricky for the police to do that when they're being overrun, barriers pushed over etc in the rush to get to the platform like we saw Sunday. Maybe have a checkpoint set up at the side station entrance we use, so tickets can be checked before people get in an enclosed space so they cant manufacture a crush in order to get past without tickets???

[geordiesteve710]

The carry on at St Peters on the way back is ridiculous. Every year it happens and every year people get crushed. Daft.

 

Aye, not sure what the solution would be mind. Unfortunately a large proportion of our support seem to love causing needless crushes at every opportunity for this fixture. Doesn't happen at other games and as well as being fucking pointless is a bit on the homo-erotic side for my liking.

[leffe186]

Finally got to watch the match - well, most of it. Fuck me, that has to be the ugliest crowd ever. I thought you were unlucky, they didn't look very good at all, and really just exploited your central defenders. Borini's was a bit of a worldy, but was also the first time I thought your midfield left too much space between them and the back four. That's been one of your biggest issues, and Tiote and Cabaye seemed to have sorted it out for the most part.

 

Maybe there were one or two signs that Poyet might save them, but they really don't convince me at all. It will be a struggle for Sunderland this year. Your key will be how you deal with November. Three home matches out of four sound good, but it could all go tits up very quickly, particularly if you can't get your centre-backs fit. Failure to get at least six points will be a problem, as December looks awkward. Not incredibly tough, just awkward.

[Guest bimpy474]

Finally got to watch the match - well, most of it. Fuck me, that has to be the ugliest crowd ever. I thought you were unlucky, they didn't look very good at all, and really just exploited your central defenders. Borini's was a bit of a worldy, but was also the first time I thought your midfield left too much space between them and the back four. That's been one of your biggest issues, and Tiote and Cabaye seemed to have sorted it out for the most part.

 

Maybe there were one or two signs that Poyet might save them, but they really don't convince me at all. It will be a struggle for Sunderland this year. Your key will be how you deal with November. Three home matches out of four sound good, but it could all go tits up very quickly, particularly if you can't get your centre-backs fit. Failure to get at least six points will be a problem, as December looks awkward. Not incredibly tough, just awkward.

 

 

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo.

[jdckelly]

Finally got to watch the match - well, most of it. Fuck me, that has to be the ugliest crowd ever. I thought you were unlucky, they didn't look very good at all, and really just exploited your central defenders. Borini's was a bit of a worldy, but was also the first time I thought your midfield left too much space between them and the back four. That's been one of your biggest issues, and Tiote and Cabaye seemed to have sorted it out for the most part.

 

Maybe there were one or two signs that Poyet might save them, but they really don't convince me at all. It will be a struggle for Sunderland this year. Your key will be how you deal with November. Three home matches out of four sound good, but it could all go tits up very quickly, particularly if you can't get your centre-backs fit. Failure to get at least six points will be a problem, as December looks awkward. Not incredibly tough, just awkward.

 

 

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo.

same problem we're going to keep on having unless we address it in the transfer window we have no width in the side (hba remy etc all cut into the middle when playing wide) and it makes our side woefully predictable

[Guest bimpy474]

Finally got to watch the match - well, most of it. Fuck me, that has to be the ugliest crowd ever. I thought you were unlucky, they didn't look very good at all, and really just exploited your central defenders. Borini's was a bit of a worldy, but was also the first time I thought your midfield left too much space between them and the back four. That's been one of your biggest issues, and Tiote and Cabaye seemed to have sorted it out for the most part.

 

Maybe there were one or two signs that Poyet might save them, but they really don't convince me at all. It will be a struggle for Sunderland this year. Your key will be how you deal with November. Three home matches out of four sound good, but it could all go tits up very quickly, particularly if you can't get your centre-backs fit. Failure to get at least six points will be a problem, as December looks awkward. Not incredibly tough, just awkward.

 

 

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo.

same problem we're going to keep on having unless we address it in the transfer window we have no width in the side (hba remy etc all cut into the middle when playing wide) and it makes our side woefully predictable

 

Aye if we are to try to cross it we need a winger and Striker. I still say we should be able to create lots of chances with the players we have. But Pardew's lack of tactically accumen to have good movement and attacking intent makes us buying players like a Winger or Striker futile. They'll struggle in such a stagnant team. (The movement has been better at times this season tbf)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

[Guest bimpy474]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

 

Hence him being dropped

[DJ_NUFC]

Doesn't tackle enough.

[Disco]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

 

I am genuinely baffled to what we do on the training field compared to other teams. We're static, we're reliant on individuals opposed to team moves usually, we're shocking at set-pieces at both ends, we don't defend well as a unit, etc.

 

When we came 5th there was a very obvious plan both with the rigid 4-4-2 and the less so 4-3-3, now there is nothing.

 

 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

 

I am genuinely baffled to what we do on the training field compared to other teams. We're static, we're reliant on individuals opposed to team moves usually, we're shocking at set-pieces at both ends, we don't defend well as a unit, etc.

 

When we came 5th there was a very obvious plan both with the rigid 4-4-2 and the less so 4-3-3, now there is nothing.

 

We can often go from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 throughout the course of 90 minutes.  It's absurd.

[Guest bimpy474]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

 

I am genuinely baffled to what we do on the training field compared to other teams. We're static, we're reliant on individuals opposed to team moves usually, we're shocking at set-pieces at both ends, we don't defend well as a unit, etc.

 

When we came 5th there was a very obvious plan both with the rigid 4-4-2 and the less so 4-3-3, now there is nothing.

 

We can often go from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 throughout the course of 90 minutes.  It's absurd.

 

Aye and this is one of Pardew major flaws. When the oppo starts well against a certain formation rather than just tweak it to suit. Pardew goes all out panic and changes too much making us so disjointed it's laughable.

[jdckelly]

Finally got to watch the match - well, most of it. Fuck me, that has to be the ugliest crowd ever. I thought you were unlucky, they didn't look very good at all, and really just exploited your central defenders. Borini's was a bit of a worldy, but was also the first time I thought your midfield left too much space between them and the back four. That's been one of your biggest issues, and Tiote and Cabaye seemed to have sorted it out for the most part.

 

Maybe there were one or two signs that Poyet might save them, but they really don't convince me at all. It will be a struggle for Sunderland this year. Your key will be how you deal with November. Three home matches out of four sound good, but it could all go tits up very quickly, particularly if you can't get your centre-backs fit. Failure to get at least six points will be a problem, as December looks awkward. Not incredibly tough, just awkward.

 

 

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo.

same problem we're going to keep on having unless we address it in the transfer window we have no width in the side (hba remy etc all cut into the middle when playing wide) and it makes our side woefully predictable

 

Aye if we are to try to cross it we need a winger and Striker. I still say we should be able to create lots of chances with the players we have. But Pardew's lack of tactically accumen to have good movement and attacking intent makes us buying players like a Winger or Striker futile. They'll struggle in such a stagnant team. (The movement has been better at times this season tbf)

forget anything like accumen etc our side just needs it to change things around when its not working. As it stands we'll only ever end up going through the middle and not stretching sides with width and pace so once that game plan is shut down what then? None of our players apart from Sammy are naturally inclined to width and pace. Buy a good winger and I dare say a fair number of the plodding performances we've seen come out as wins (not all obviously)

[Greg]

It's the lack of movement off the ball that's the strangest thing. It's like everyone just stands there.

 

Playing Anita helped.

 

I am genuinely baffled to what we do on the training field compared to other teams. We're static, we're reliant on individuals opposed to team moves usually, we're shocking at set-pieces at both ends, we don't defend well as a unit, etc.

 

When we came 5th there was a very obvious plan both with the rigid 4-4-2 and the less so 4-3-3, now there is nothing.

 

We can often go from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 throughout the course of 90 minutes.  It's absurd.

 

The clown in the dugout changed the formation 4 times in the first 10 minutes on Sunday.