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Aye, it's Pardew's fault for Remy not scoring from one of those sitters...

 

We lost control of the game in the second half after they made the changes. Seen it too many times before to start blaming individual players for not scoring every chance.

 

It's the other team's fault for trying to score, what else could we do?

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Pardew can't be blamed for our players not taking their chances. From my seat in the Gallowgate we could have been 3 or 4 nil up in the first half.

 

Players have done enough this season to hide his limits as manager.

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I would love to see our current squad managed by a positive manager.

 

Yeah, it's frustrating as fuck. We can have a decent season as it is but could be so much better.

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Yeah, it's frustrating as f***. We can have a decent season as it is but could be so much better.

 

I was genuinely optimistic after the Man U game because I thought he'd had a eureka moment when he'd commented on playing too direct and commenting about keeping more possession.  As soon as I read the starting 11 I knew he had just been talking shite and was reverting to type.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been shit but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were fucking about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

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Here's a problem. There isn't many goals in this team. And that's not all Pardew's fault like.

 

There's only Man U outside the top 5 who've scored more than us.

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Here's a problem. There isn't many goals in this team. And that's not all Pardew's fault like.

 

There's only Man U outside the top 5 who've scored more than us.

 

Happy Face would be proud. That stat is down to Remy. If he's off his game...we don't have many different players who can score. Gouffran and Cabaye are good for a few. Shola and Cisse may never score again.  We don't have any defenders who can chip in. It's a problem. Everton had four different scorers today.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been shit but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were fucking about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

We only looked more likely to grab a second once they'd equalised. First fifteen minutes of the second half were awful and that's what cost us. We sat extremely deep and gave them the initiative when we really didn't need to. I thought Southampton were rotten in the first half.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been shit but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were fucking about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

We only looked more likely to grab a second once they'd equalised. First fifteen minutes of the second half were awful and that's what cost us. We sat extremely deep and gave them the initiative when we really didn't need to. I thought Southampton were rotten in the first half.

 

They scored when we were pressing man. They caught us on the break. The goal wasn't a result of pressure that had been building the entire half, it was Santon trying a chip from 30 yards out when nee fucker was behind him to clear up his mess.

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Here's a problem. There isn't many goals in this team. And that's not all Pardew's fault like.

 

Absolutely right:

 

 

Here's Ashley's spending on strikers 2007 - 2013:

 

Viduka 0

Xisco £5.7m

Zamblera 0.5

Ranger 0

Lovenkrands (twice) 0

Best £2m

Ba 0 (+various add ons)

Cisse  £10m

Gouffran £2m

 

Total: £20.2m

 

Cisse came on to replace a striker who his manager has said isn't fit to play 2 games in a week and shouldn't be near a start for a premier league side in the first place. As bad as he is he is Cisse is still our number 9 - you can argue about the decision as much as you want, but we just haven't got the strikers to sustain a push for the top 6 imo.

 

I thought Southampton got a grip on the middle of the park in the 2nd half rather than us surrendering it - Anita was excellent in the first half but made mistakes in the 2nd half. Their half time changes made a difference, we had nothing on the bench to counter the grip they began to exert on midfield when Schneiderlinand Lallana came on.

 

 

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Here's a problem. There isn't many goals in this team. And that's not all Pardew's fault like.

 

There's only Man U outside the top 5 who've scored more than us.

 

Happy Face would be proud. That stat is down to Remy. If he's off his game...we don't have many different players who can score. Gouffran and Cabaye are good for a few. Shola and Cisse may never score again.  We don't have any defenders who can chip in. It's a problem. Everton had four different scorers today.

 

It's not like Remy has been scoring screamers like Cisse. A lot of them have been finishes from chances created for him. And what's the difference between Remy & Gouffran getting the bulk of ours and say, Sturridge & Suarez, Giroud & Ramsey and Rooney & RvP at other clubs?

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been s*** but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were f***ing about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

We only looked more likely to grab a second once they'd equalised. First fifteen minutes of the second half were awful and that's what cost us. We sat extremely deep and gave them the initiative when we really didn't need to. I thought Southampton were rotten in the first half.

 

They scored when we were pressing man. They caught us on the break. The goal wasn't a result of pressure that had been building the entire half, it was Santon trying a chip from 30 yards out when nee f***er was behind him to clear up his mess.

 

Purely because it was a set piece, we werent pressing them whatsoever 2nd half until they scored. We were taking pressure.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been s*** but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were f***ing about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

We only looked more likely to grab a second once they'd equalised. First fifteen minutes of the second half were awful and that's what cost us. We sat extremely deep and gave them the initiative when we really didn't need to. I thought Southampton were rotten in the first half.

 

They scored when we were pressing man. They caught us on the break. The goal wasn't a result of pressure that had been building the entire half, it was Santon trying a chip from 30 yards out when nee f***er was behind him to clear up his mess.

 

Purely because it was a set piece, we werent pressing them whatsoever 2nd half until they scored. We were taking pressure.

 

Were we taking pressure because Pardew's shit or Southampton are actually a pretty good side who excel at retaining and recycling possession, particularly when they need a goal?

 

Do some of our supporters genuinely expect us to sit on the front foot for 90 minutes? Yes, we often perform poorly after HT but this isn't Norwich. Pardew really can't take much if any flack for today.

 

As for the negative stuff, we were actively looking for a second when we conceded the equaliser. Actually if we were a bit more negative and kept more men back we'd probably not have drew today.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been s*** but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were f***ing about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

How could he not have done much more today?  We were pissed on by Swansea and he later admitted that we'd tried to play too direct so had told the players to play a possession game against Man U where we bossed the game and won.  Could he not have done the same again today?  It looks like Southampton had almost as much of the game as Swansea had and they were the away team. 

 

I can't believe that he came up with a way to beat Man U a week ago yet couldn't even carry that into the next game.

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I've criticised Pardew a lot because for large parts of the last 18 months he's been s*** but he couldn't have done much more today. We created the best chances, missed some sitters and even in the second half I thought we look more likely to grab a second than concede.

 

It is amusing to see loads of people whinge about Pardew's perceived negativity and they only scored because our full back and centre back were f***ing about on the edge of their final third when they broke :lol:

 

How could he not have done much more today?  We were pissed on by Swansea and he later admitted that we'd tried to play too direct so had told the players to play a possession game against Man U where we bossed the game and won.  Could he not have done the same again today?  It looks like Southampton had almost as much of the game as Swansea had and they were the away team. 

 

I can't believe that he came up with a way to beat Man U a week ago yet couldn't even carry that into the next game.

 

Please tell me what you would've done differently today, because from where I was sat it looked like we created twice as many chances as Southampton and on another day we'd have ran out comfortable winners.

 

It's shit like this that makes us look like mugs. We're fucking sixth. Pardew will continue to make mistakes because every manager does, however today I can't really fault the bloke.

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Please tell me what you would've done differently today, because from where I was sat it looked like we created twice as many chances as Southampton and on another day we'd have ran out comfortable winners.

 

It's s*** like this that makes us look like mugs. We're f***ing sixth. Pardew will continue to make mistakes because every manager does, however today I can't really fault the bloke.

 

I would have started with Ben Arfa instead of shola and I would have told the players to retain possession like we did against Man U.  I've said that in the post that you replied to so I don't know why you have to even ask the question.

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Please tell me what you would've done differently today, because from where I was sat it looked like we created twice as many chances as Southampton and on another day we'd have ran out comfortable winners.

 

It's s*** like this that makes us look like mugs. We're f***ing sixth. Pardew will continue to make mistakes because every manager does, however today I can't really fault the bloke.

 

I would have started with Ben Arfa instead of shola and I would have told the players to retain possession like we did against Man U.  I've said that in the post that you replied to so I don't know why you have to even ask the question.

 

So not only are you assuming Pardew didn't ask/want the players to do that but that's the level of your tactical nous?

 

Don't give up the day job, mate :lol:

 

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So not only are you assuming Pardew didn't ask/want the players to do that but that's the level of your tactical nous?

 

Don't give up the day job, mate :lol:

 

 

The players only do what he tells them when it works, when it doesn't it's the players fault, I get it.  And starting Shola doesn't point to us wanting to keep possession, it points to us playing the way that we did.

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