Hanshithispantz Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sorry everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I know he's a dick but from an NUFC perspective I don't care if he buggers children, he makes football teams play nice football What are you on about? van Gaal nice football? Ever since leaving Ajax his teams have been all about tactics, all about winning games even if it was done the wrong way. Ask VI what he thinks about him, he basically destroyed Rivaldo's career, one of the best at the time because of his boring football philosophy. I mean even the majority of Bayern fans were happy to see him go, even after taking them to a CL final and we all understand why now, look at where they went without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. Not really relevant, but Ryan Taylor has not been "useful" at all. One of the worst players I've seen for us in a long, long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Tons of managers around who wants their team playing entertaining football. Said last season that Martinez would've been an excellent appointment as long as he had some guidances in the transfer window. Doing a very good job at Everton who could've been further up the table had they not been so unlucky in the beginning of the season where they just couldn't seem to score from a million of chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. Not really relevant, but Ryan Taylor has not been "useful" at all. One of the worst players I've seen for us in a long, long time. Was ok during that unbeaten run, but was still the weakest link and the unbeaten run came to an end when he had a mare against Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sorry everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. Not really relevant, but Ryan Taylor has not been "useful" at all. One of the worst players I've seen for us in a long, long time. He was a part of a back 4 that pretty much got us a 5th place finish He wasn't great at left back by any means, and was replaced by Santon halfway through the season, but to say he wasn't useful that season is being really churlish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Tons of managers around who wants their team playing entertaining football. Said last season that Martinez would've been an excellent appointment as long as he had some guidances in the transfer window. Doing a very good job at Everton who could've been further up the table had they not been so unlucky in the beginning of the season where they just couldn't seem to score from a million of chances. Swansea has just sacked someone who I'd wank my penis off if we got. The whole "might as well keep him, because who would we replace him with" went out the window the second he was sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. I wonder how good the EPL would be if England had an actual sports media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Would take top 8 over a cup run, but at least plays good football along the way that could still make profit on players. Mike Ashley's wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Tons of managers around who wants their team playing entertaining football. Said last season that Martinez would've been an excellent appointment as long as he had some guidances in the transfer window. Doing a very good job at Everton who could've been further up the table had they not been so unlucky in the beginning of the season where they just couldn't seem to score from a million of chances. Swansea has just sacked someone who I'd wank my penis off if we got. The whole "might as well keep him, because who would we replace him with" went out the window the second he was sacked. Are you not a tiny bit suspicious about the way he's left Swansea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. I wonder how good the EPL would be if England had an actual sports media. It's so bad here tbh. I can't think of one journalist/pundit I respect. The is version is streets ahead It sounds like no one with a TV gig watches a minute of our games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. I don't play close enough attention to other clubs to notice how their poorer players are performing but I know Williamson, Best, Raylor, Perch, Guthrie etc.. Have all had spells at the club where they were considered worse than shite then could have arguably been harshly moved out of the team when the regular first teamers have got fit again. Williamson is probably our first choice centre back (even with everyone fit) at the moment for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think they just have a quick glance at the league table and base their comments on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. I wonder how good the EPL would be if England had an actual sports media. It's so bad here tbh. I can't think of one journalist/pundit I respect. The is version is streets ahead It sounds like no one with a TV gig watches a minute of our games. That's basically it, they do the bare minimum and watch what's on/big teams. Then peddle the latest cliche around "pardew is doing fine", I seem to recall one saying we were a threat from set pieces once A threat to the fans behind the goal and the players making up the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's a bit cliche that Pardew makes poor players play better than they are, or would at any other club tbh. Most poor players have just looked unsurprisingly like poor players under him. Williamson is fairly solid when alongside Coloccini and Leon Best and Ryan Taylor have been "useful" under him. There are many other poor players up and down the league putting in performances for other managers. I don't play close enough attention to other clubs to notice how their poorer players are performing but I know Williamson, Best, Raylor, Perch, Guthrie etc.. Have all had spells at the club where they were considered worse than shite then could have arguably been harshly moved out of the team when the regular first teamers have got fit again. Williamson is probably our first choice centre back (even with everyone fit) at the moment for example. I don't think Pardew improved any of those players, they just fit in with his back to basics style of football. Not surprising since they are Championship players for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would rather have that little Argie manager from Southampton. Tons of managers around who wants their team playing entertaining football. Said last season that Martinez would've been an excellent appointment as long as he had some guidances in the transfer window. Doing a very good job at Everton who could've been further up the table had they not been so unlucky in the beginning of the season where they just couldn't seem to score from a million of chances. Swansea has just sacked someone who I'd wank my penis off if we got. The whole "might as well keep him, because who would we replace him with" went out the window the second he was sacked. Are you not a tiny bit suspicious about the way he's left Swansea? Compared to how Pardew is handling us? No, not in the slightest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I can think of a couple of candidates I'd prefer though... Pundits who are good: Marcotti Carragher Honigstein Neville Souness at times. I know I know, shuuut up There are more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'd take Danny Baker, he could pick the side using a toaster to make decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So you'd have someone who is a decent pundit over someone who won a cup with fucking Swansea and has proven he plays good football? Also, you do know that you make your point redundant the very second you typed up Souness' name, right? Being a decent pundit does not mean you can manage a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. I wonder how good the EPL would be if England had an actual sports media. It's so bad here tbh. I can't think of one journalist/pundit I respect. The is version is streets ahead It sounds like no one with a TV gig watches a minute of our games. That's basically it, they do the bare minimum and watch what's on/big teams. Then peddle the latest cliche around "pardew is doing fine", I seem to recall one saying we were a threat from set pieces once A threat to the fans behind the goal and the players making up the wall. And to ourselves if i recall, we seemed to end up conceding from them we innovated the set piece Getting back to it, I saw something when that dude walked up to Pards and tried to give him his season ticket. The caption was like "They're 8th!" all incredulous that the fans would be this pissed off. I found it hilarious, tbh. How unaware of our team/play/last two seasons do you have to be to think we're overreacting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So you'd have someone who is a decent pundit over someone who won a cup with fucking Swansea and has proven he plays good football? Also, you do know that you make your point redundant the very second you typed up Souness' name, right? Being a decent pundit does not mean you can manage a team. I think I've confused you a bit there, sorry. I responded to the post above me, then went on to rejoin the discussion on pundits. I don't think Gabriele Marcotti would make a good manager ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 lollemache Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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