TaylorJ_01 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Said it before, but I still don't really understand how this will ever go well. He's already been found out to be totally tactically inflexible, and have no idea of any other ways to play. Even if he does spend the hundreds of millions needed to adapt fully to his 'style' it'll not take long for teams to just learn how to play against them. Just look at Ange at Tottenham. To be doing as badly as he's doing is quite impressive. It's honestly no better than just getting like Harry Maguire to pick the team and just see what happens each week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 13 minutes ago, The Bonk said: You can’t, but he’s not selling it fully, whether that’s because of english being a second language or him not being convincing enough. I feel for the guy, he’s been brought in at the wrong time and these players all have no fight in them collectively. I'd agree with that tbh I think he's also pushing some of the responsibility onto the squad too. I get the fact he's asking a few of them to change their normal game and do slightly different things in different areas but they're just not producing. They either can't do it technically or they can't be arsed to do it consistently. They gave Liverpool a hell of a game at Anfield not long ago - was the system an issue for the players that afternoon? Yet so often they've looked like they just couldn't give a fuck. And if that's the real issue then that club is utterly fucked. You can change formations, managers, coaches but unless you gut the dressingroom then that stench will always be there. Like sewing rotten fish into the seams of the curtains, it's always going to stink Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Also Onana is hilarious. 0 saves and let in 3, including a howler must be demoralising for the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 wins in 10 league games? City and Southampton? Not exactly convincing performances, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: 2 wins in 10 league games? City and Southampton? Not exactly convincing performances, either. It's 3 wins in 11 with 6 losses Everton was the other win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 In a genuine question, what is their managers style supposed to be? Never watched a team of his previously, but surely his style can't be that alien to a group of professional football players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Remember when they were back with that Amad magic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Thank God for Sunderland single handedly making Amad the player he is today, otherwise manure would have nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Keggy_Keagal said: Every single Manchester United manager since Ferguson has said this that and the other about the style and about rebuilding the squad. They all espouse having to learn a different way of playing then they start having a few bad results and it's ffs stick in the channels for the quick lads. I like Amorim, he seems an honest and genuine guy but that club is currently a basket case and some of the most experienced coaches in world football have struggled in the past decade or so. That dressing room seems poisonous. They need to do what Arsenal did with Arteta which is back him as they move the high earners who aren't performing out and they rebuild around talented younger players like Amad. Didn't they try that with Solksjaer though. Mourinho said it was his biggest achievement what he did at that club. They hounded him out. They're running out of ideas and FFP will not help. I think it's only going to get worse for them. It's a great watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Speaking of Sunderland and the often quoted premise that they don't care how shit THEY are as long as we're worse, is it small time that my frustrations over our progress are, somewhat, tempered by seeing Manure and Spuds in the mud? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The goals today they let in are shockingly hilarious. The GK for the third. If you watch de ligt for the first first he sprinted towards the half way line as the Brighton player drifted the ball over everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 12 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Speaking of Sunderland and the often quoted premise that they don't care how shit THEY are as long as we're worse, is it small time that my frustrations over our progress are, somewhat, tempered by seeing Manure and Spuds in the mud? 😂 Not necessarily, they are considered rivals as they are part of the so called big six, so the more they struggle the better The sooner this big six nonsense gets shattered the better and both of those clubs struggling and finishing well outside the top 6 helps towards that (Plus if you know any Man U fans personally then it's always extra enjoyable because growing up they were the most arrogant fans going by a country mile) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Groundhog63 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Not necessarily, they are considered rivals as they are part of the so called big six, so the more they struggle the better The sooner this big six nonsense gets shattered the better and both of those clubs struggling and finishing well outside the top 6 helps towards that (Plus if you know any Man U fans personally then it's always extra enjoyable because growing up they were the most arrogant fans going by a country mile) Aye, indeed. I'm an avid fan of any, non "big 6", team breaking into that top7 league places. Obvs I'd like it to be us, consistently, but the more get in and squeeze those cunts out the better. Up the Villa, Forest, Brighton, Bournemouth and plucky Newcastle is what I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Not sure what to make of Amorim tbh. I don't really watch Man United all that much so maybe I'm not best placed to comment but I thought Ten Hag had the right idea when he stood up to Ronaldo and over time he just wasn't able to wean out all the bad eggs it seems. Now Amorim is asking his team to stand up and be counted and whilst he is absolutely correct I feel he's doing so whilst the season is still young and whilst that could have been a masterstroke and dragged them up the league the reality has fast become evident - that they don't have the right aspirations, desires, dedication or professional pride to actually work for their managers, themselves or their pay. I'd (mentally) even argue that he'd be better off chucking in a few kids or swap the whole lot for a game or two me to make absolute mugs of the first team squad. If nowt else, they'd at least be made twats of and fans might see the right level of application and desire from kids who wanna succeed and play for the right reasons. Players aren't bigger than clubs - that always has to be the attitude for a successful side. I cannot see anything working for this chap other than an overhaul and then financial limitations will potentially restrict that, and so his final chance will be relying on those youngsters. Edited January 19 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I just don't get how a manager can come out and say "we're shit" and it not basically be a stackable offence. He's the manager. If they're shit then it's on him. If it's not him then what is it? The players? That's a great way to get them on your side. The board? Always a good idea to call your boss shit. Trying to undo the effects of the previous manager? Ok maybe, but good lord there's better ways to get your point across. Can only see this ending in tears at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Cf said: I just don't get how a manager can come out and say "we're shit" and it not basically be a stackable offence. He's the manager. If they're shit then it's on him. If it's not him then what is it? The players? That's a great way to get them on your side. The board? Always a good idea to call your boss shit. Trying to undo the effects of the previous manager? Ok maybe, but good lord there's better ways to get your point across. Can only see this ending in tears at this point. Foundations aren't there for him to be stacked. Jokes aside, he's only calling the squad though, right? Not upwards? He basically has a load of scrounging, jobsworth, good for nowts freeloading an expensive salary. Granted it's not best form to do what he's doing, but I suspect the board aren't bothered by it. You'd think there'd be transfers swirling around Old Trafford though both in and out. Edited January 19 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, Cf said: I just don't get how a manager can come out and say "we're shit" and it not basically be a stackable offence. He's the manager. If they're shit then it's on him. If it's not him then what is it? The players? That's a great way to get them on your side. The board? Always a good idea to call your boss shit. Trying to undo the effects of the previous manager? Ok maybe, but good lord there's better ways to get your point across. Can only see this ending in tears at this point. But they’re shit regardless of whether he says it, so don’t see how saying it is a sackable offence. In fact it’s v important for a manager to recognise when they’re shit - I’m much more worried when they seem to not see it. That said, don’t know if it’s a good strategy for motivating players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo2 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 hours ago, The Bonk said: Just in case you haven’t seen it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Mike said: 9:15 "I've thrown balloons quicker than this cross" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The Onana meltdown at 10:00 is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Cf said: I just don't get how a manager can come out and say "we're shit" and it not basically be a stackable offence. He's the manager. If they're shit then it's on him. If it's not him then what is it? The players? That's a great way to get them on your side. The board? Always a good idea to call your boss shit. Trying to undo the effects of the previous manager? Ok maybe, but good lord there's better ways to get your point across. Can only see this ending in tears at this point. Maybe he's wanting to get the sack as that club (brilliant to see) is a total cluster fuck currently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 These historic psr advocates being constrained by the very thing they have championed when they need a new squad is glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poon Raccoon Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: These historic psr advocates being constrained by the very thing they have championed when they need a new squad is glorious. Being constrained? $40 million covid payment? $30 million bullshit payment? Yep, there restrained alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) He said we are being the worst Man Utd side. Not that they are the worst. That's just factually true based on results. I think his point was that he wants to keep trying to implement his style, but they need to pick up more points short term aswell, as the results have been historically bad. Atleast he wasn't making excuses about how some of the losses were unlucky etc. Edited January 20 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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