Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Tiote is undroppable right now, probably been our best player in recent months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Tiote is undroppable right now, probably been our best player in recent months. Months? Cabaye has been better than him in any case and while he does the role totally differently Anita never has let us down and we won't lose much from playing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Tiote is undroppable right now, probably been our best player in recent months. Months? Cabaye has been better than him in any case and while he does the role totally differently Anita never has let us down and we won't lose much from playing him. He's been great since the start of October. Maybe not the best but certainly in the top 3 for me. In my opinion we should play all three of them and Tiote's form has been one of the biggest factors in our good run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Really hard to pick a side with the players I want and for it to have balance. Gouff should not miss out but I just feel Benny needs to play, his ability is wasted on the bench and the only way he will learn to play as part of a team is to play. ----------------Krul Debu-----Willo------MYM-----Hid ----------------Tiote -----Mous-----Cabs------Anita --------Remy---------Benny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Krul Debuchy Williamson MYM Santon Sissoko Anita Cabaye HBA Gouffran Remy Same side as mine. Great minds think a like and all... No Tiote? I think our recent form has a lot to do with Tiote coming back to form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Krul Debuchy Williamson MYM Haidara Sissoko Cabaye Tiote Gouffran Shola Remy Reasons before I get lynched for having Shola in there. Haidara for Santon simply because Santon has been a bit rubbish and if anything could do with reminding his place isn't set in stone and Haidara's only going to get better if he's given a go. No HBA because the only place he's ever been good for us is on the right wing which Sissoko is really impressing in and doesn't deserve to be dropped or moved from. Behind the striker as some may suggest HBA has been garbage for us. I include Shola ahead of Anita because Remy hasn't impressed me that much when we tried him as a lone striker, he's been better with someone to help keep defenders busy either from left wing in a 433 or in the 442 with Shola. MYM I just think is better than Colo now. I would say 442 as well because its the formation that seems to suit the most players in the team at present. 433 for my money just doesn't carry the same goal threat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 ------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------- Debuchy --------- Yanga -------- Colo ------------- Haidara ------------- Sissoko ------ Anita ----- Cabaye --------------- HBA ------------------------ Remy -------------------- Gouffran I see no reason why that collection of players can't play a fluid and expansive game. However, Pardew is only suited to a basic 4-4-2 with basic functions, so really I'd rather we re-built the squad, to an extent, with players that are suited to his tactics. We'll progress better that way, as the comparison between this season and last has proven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Krul Debuchy Williamson MYM Santon Sissoko Anita Cabaye HBA Gouffran Remy Same side as mine. Great minds think a like and all... No Tiote? I think our recent form has a lot to do with Tiote coming back to form. Having a hardtackling player isn't always needed. A player who is positionally good and can make interceptions is preferable to a player who is liable to give away free kicks in dangerous areas and take wild potshots everygame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... I think it does, it just doesn't suit our manager. After all if Swansea can make it work with the likes of Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge I see no reason why we couldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... Our last away game suggests otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Can't agree with you all that Krul should be up front. Anyway, I'll go: Remy Gouffran Ben Arfa Cabaye Sissoko Anita Haidara Coloccini MYM Debuchy Krul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... I think it does, it just doesn't suit our manager. After all if Swansea can make it work with the likes of Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge I see no reason why we couldn't. It definitely doesn't suit our manager, that we can agree on! I would just say that It's only Anita who clearly would be a much better fit in a possession team than the direct style we play. No surprise really given his Ajax DNA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote Wild generalisations are wild generalisations. I also haven't seen much wrong in Tiote keeping possession lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... Our last away game suggests otherwise. That's a fair point, but a small sample size against a Man U team who have a very average (at best) midfield, and a clear confidence/adaptation issue under Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote Wild generalisations are wild generalisations. I also haven't seen much wrong in Tiote keeping possession lately. Those potshots aren't example possession based I just think Anita in a busquets role is more beneficial than Tiote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote Wild generalisations are wild generalisations. I also haven't seen much wrong in Tiote keeping possession lately. Those potshots aren't example possession based I just think Anita in a busquets role is more beneficial than Tiote I don't see any reason Anita and Tiote couldn't be in the same midfield with Cabaye. Tiote has been back to his best this season which has really helped the central defense and theres not much actual reasons for leaving him out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 A possession style doesn't really suit anyone else though... Our last away game suggests otherwise. It suggested that we can hold teams off by keeping the ball but what else? Correct me if I'm wrong, but we didn't really create an awful lot, did we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Like all Tiote does is tackling. As for unnecessary fouls and wild potshots, you may as well drop YoCabs from there too. Cabaye has more than one Newcastle go to his name and is a much more complete player than Tiote though. A move towards a more possession orientated style would suite Anita more than it would Tiote hence why I'd personally drop Tiote Wild generalisations are wild generalisations. I also haven't seen much wrong in Tiote keeping possession lately. Those potshots aren't example possession based I just think Anita in a busquets role is more beneficial than Tiote I don't think Anita is active enough to play the Busquets role alone in this league. When Tiote is playing well he's everywhere while Anita can sometimes be a passenger. It's a cliche but Tiote's physical presence is something that Anita can never offer for us. I also don't see the massive gulf in their passing ability that many clearly do. Like said above, we should play Tiote, Anita and Cabaye all as they really complement each other well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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