HaydnNUFC Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Really can't see Rafa playing Almiron and Perez at the same time very regularly, it's not as glamorous on paper but the idea that he wouldn't play at least one winger just isn't realistic IMO. Just seems harsh on Perez if he's dropped imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Really can't see Rafa playing Almiron and Perez at the same time very regularly, it's not as glamorous on paper but the idea that he wouldn't play at least one winger just isn't realistic IMO. Why not, he's playing Atsu and Perez together, and played Perez and Kenedy together at Burnley. There's no reason Almiron can't play instead of Atsu. In the 3-4-3/5-2-2-1 formation we use fyi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 If Almiron has come in to displace Perez rather than Atsu I'd seriously question the whole point of the signing. The latter is physically incapable of kicking the ball with more force than an infant. It's not as if he's played like a winger in this set-up anyway; he's a lot more left-of-centre with Ritchie overlapping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I thought the whole point of Almiron is to unlock Perez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Really can't see Rafa playing Almiron and Perez at the same time very regularly, it's not as glamorous on paper but the idea that he wouldn't play at least one winger just isn't realistic IMO. Just seems harsh on Perez if he's dropped imo. It's about the balance of the team and knowing Rafa's tendencies. the team you posted but Atsu or Kenedy for Perez is what i think he'll do. Not really about Perez is more it is that Rafa will see it to be important to have some natural width alongside Almiron and Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I thought the whole point of Almiron is to unlock Perez Nah the point is he's a #10 and we haven't had one in forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 If Almiron has come in to displace Perez rather than Atsu I'd seriously question the whole point of the signing. The latter is physically incapable of kicking the ball with more force than an infant. It's not as if he's played like a winger in this set-up anyway; he's a lot more left-of-centre with Ritchie overlapping. Maybe, but I want to see Almiron behind Rondon in the #10 role. We don't really play with wingers and Atsu I don't actually think has done that badly in that quasi CM position, although he's so frustrating when on the ball most of the time. Nice headache for Rafa to have I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Kenedy can't be trusted do anything right now. If we're replacing Perez what's the point? We've already signed and not bothered playing one lad who was supposed to do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Really can't see Rafa playing Almiron and Perez at the same time very regularly, it's not as glamorous on paper but the idea that he wouldn't play at least one winger just isn't realistic IMO. Just seems harsh on Perez if he's dropped imo. It's about the balance of the team and knowing Rafa's tendencies. the team you posted but Atsu or Kenedy for Perez is what i think he'll do. Not really about Perez is more it is that Rafa will see it to be important to have some natural width alongside Almiron and Rondon. Maybe, but Almiron like you say has been bought as a #10. If we stick with the 5-3-1-1 I'm not sure where the width could come from aside from the wing backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do people see Atsu and Perez as playing different positions? I see them as playing directly opposite each other to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do people see Atsu and Perez as playing different positions? I see them as playing directly opposite each other to be honest. Him and Perez go wide when we're out of possession and defending in low block in like a 5-4-1. When we're attacking we go to like a 5-3-1-1 with Perez behind Rondon and Atsu in like a sort of free(ish) role in front of Longstaff and Hayden, or 5-2-2-1 with the two of them either side of Rondon. It seems to vary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Kenedy can't be trusted do anything right now. If we're replacing Perez what's the point? We've already signed and not bothered playing one lad who was supposed to do that Point is if he's as good as reputation says he's significantly better lol, we haven't had a proper AM in years the rest doesn't really matter tbh. Honestly if he's as good as people who have watched him seems to think he is then he's someone we haven't had in forever and people are honestly underestimating the impact someone like that should have on the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do people see Atsu and Perez as playing different positions? I see them as playing directly opposite each other to be honest. Aye, in our 3 at the back formation they're playing basically as two 10's, it's what i'm seeing anyhoo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Almiron's also much more free role than second striker like Perez. Atsu's position, if it really is different, looks made for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It's such a shame Kenedy's form has plummeted so dramatically. Not a clue where he's ever going to fit in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This formation we're currently playing has been the making of Perez. IMO Almiron will displace Atsu. He and Ayoze will drop wide when in defense. If we go back to the 4-2-3-1 then Almiron will go back to being the #10 and I could def see Ayoze going out and playing wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It's such a shame Kenedy's form has plummeted so dramatically. Not a clue where he's ever going to fit in now. Chelsea's reserves. Honestly, for me he's 3rd choice Left wing back and 5th choice for one of the two number 10 positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This formation we're currently playing has been the making of Perez. IMO Almiron will displace Atsu. He and Ayoze will drop wide when in defense. If we go back to the 4-2-3-1 then Almiron will go back to being the #10 and I could def see Ayoze going out and playing wide. I'd probably argue for this for the Huddersfield and Burnley double header in a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Perez and Almiron will be a thorn for most defences, as thorny as a thorny thing, a bush, as thorny as a bush. It's been a long day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Dubz Yedlin Schar Lascelles Lejeune Ritchie/Dummett/Barreca Longstaff Diame Perez Almiron Rondon Something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This formation we're currently playing has been the making of Perez. IMO Almiron will displace Atsu. He and Ayoze will drop wide when in defense. If we go back to the 4-2-3-1 then Almiron will go back to being the #10 and I could def see Ayoze going out and playing wide. This i agree with, my opinion was more based on the current formation Rafa is using. I hope i'm wrong, but i have a feeling he will want a winger alongside Almiron even if they aren't playing there but have the ability to do it if necessary. Think he will see it as having more tactical flexibility and width for balance, i mean he could prove me wrong but based on his history that's what i expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Really can't see Rafa playing Almiron and Perez at the same time very regularly, it's not as glamorous on paper but the idea that he wouldn't play at least one winger just isn't realistic IMO. We don’t play with wingers as it is. Perez and Atsu play in the same role just on opposite sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Aye, I’d hope Almiron for Atsu will be the swap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Aye, I’d hope Almiron for Atsu will be the swap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I don’t think tactics will change even as we add quality in attack. Difference is we’ll have more quality on the ball rather than keep surrendering possession and being forced back on the back foot. I still think we’d defend deep but with a better chance of hurting the opposition when we break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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