Collage Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'm not sure at least he admitted to going to away games to draw. Pardew plays hoof ball around his own goal-area and then calls it attacking football and that we had a go at it. Same s*** both of them, difference is Sam is doing a horribly boring job with a horribly boring squad while Pardew is doing it with a far better squad. Actually think Pardew genuinely thinks West Ham has a better team since they're all british. Probably, yeah. They're both cunts, let's just leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'm not sure at least he admitted to going to away games to draw. Pardew plays hoof ball around his own goal-area and then calls it attacking football and that we had a go at it. Same s*** both of them, difference is Sam is doing a horribly boring job with a horribly boring squad while Pardew is doing it with a far better squad. Actually think Pardew genuinely thinks West Ham has a better team since they're all british. Probably, yeah. They're both c***s, let's just leave it at that. Glad we can agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Why can't these cretins realise that ultimately fans that fork out the money they do, to go to games, don't want to then sit there for 90 mins watching awful football, otherwise they're going to be pretty pissed off about it. They gave that baboon Allardyce so much money this summer, and the football is still putrid, and gross to look at. They actually allowed him to spend £16 million on Carroll, and God knows how much else on the likes of Joe Cole and Downing who have all flopped. Then these punks come out with an attitude, and blame the fans for the horrible play, because they're making the players nervous? Give me a break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Madrid choking when its crunch time as per usual. 32 wins. 21 second places. 85 seasons of La Liga. 53 seasons in top two positions. Over 1/3rd as winner. Madrid choking when its crunch time as per usual. What is this I don't even Stop making sense, Kaiz. It doesn't jive with his narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He's right if you take the past 10 seasons, though. Their record in big games is not too good. And their trophy haul despite their on paper squad quality and spending levels is a bit disappointing. This season they have just taken 1 point in 12 against games versus us or Atlético. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ronaldo has been there for almost 5 seasons now, only 1 league title so far for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Barcelona has been the better team the past decade. Doesn't make Real choke artists though. And they've only been top of the league for 4 weeks this season, so it's not as if they've been dominating all year and just now coughed up the lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They have been choke artists since Zidane retired. In the last 10 years in CL the only relevant team they have beaten is Man Yoo. They have only made the Semi's 3 times in 11 years. They do this every year, its not surprising in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They have been choke artists since Zidane retired. In the last 10 years in CL the only relevant team they have beaten is Man Yoo. They have only made the Semi's 3 times in 11 years. They do this every year, its not surprising in the slightest. Since Zidane retired? Didn't they only win like 2 titles during his 5 years at Real? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They have been choke artists since Zidane retired. In the last 10 years in CL the only relevant team they have beaten is Man Yoo. They have only made the Semi's 3 times in 11 years. They do this every year, its not surprising in the slightest. Since Zidane retired? Didn't they only win like 2 titles during his 5 years at Real? 2 titles, 1 Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The way I look at it: under Pérez presidency (10 seasons not including this one), as he's the one behind the galáctico policy. - 3 league titles - 1 CL - 1 Spanish Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Barcelona has been the better team the past decade. Doesn't make Real choke artists though. And they've only been top of the league for 4 weeks this season, so it's not as if they've been dominating all year and just now coughed up the lead. Aye, it's like the whole Andy Murray thing a few years ago. He wasn't a bottler, he was a great player simply competing with some of the greatest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I heard a commentator describe Ancelotti as dragging Real out of the Mourinhou 'barren' years, hang on didn't he wrestle the league back from what was then regarded as the best team in the world? Obviously not quite the sparking footy they wanted, and no champions league for him but I wouldn't mind barren years like that. Thing is I guess is that Real want to have era defining teams and such, but recently at least their sides have been outshone, it's gone from the Barca to Bayern. It's a tad unfair as current Real is actually quite fearsome a proposition for any team, and they do have their own identity, no-one counter attacks like them. Unfortunately they are hampered by poor planning, managerial changes trying to chop and change the philosophy, teams built around players rather than the other way around and by playing in a league that only challenges them a few times a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The way I look at it: under Pérez presidency (10 seasons not including this one), as he's the one behind the galáctico policy. - 3 league titles - 1 CL - 1 Spanish Cup I've held quite a dislike of Real Madrid over the years and that started due to Perez and the whole Galactico thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I heard a commentator describe Ancelotti as dragging Real out of the Mourinhou 'barren' years, hang on didn't he wrestle the league back from what was then regarded as the best team in the world? Obviously not quite the sparking footy they wanted, and no champions league for him but I wouldn't mind barren years like that. Thing is I guess is that Real want to have era defining teams and such, but recently at least their sides have been outshone, it's gone from the Barca to Bayern. It's a tad unfair as current Real is actually quite fearsome a proposition for any team, and they do have their own identity, no-one counter attacks like them. Unfortunately they are hampered by poor planning, managerial changes trying to chop and change the philosophy, teams built around players rather than the other way around and by playing in a league that only challenges them a few times a season. 1. For better or for worse Jose Mourinho is not a Real Madrid type of manager. His character and his style of play/management. Even though they've lost in the league against their near rivals and not registered a single one, they actually went toe-to-toe with Barcelona for the first time in a long time and they weren't embarrassed (unlike the first and only Jose tried to attack Barcelona from the off and got slumped 4/5-0 at home if my memory is correct). If Ancelotti does succeed at Madrid, wins the league or CL - he'll have done it in a Real Madrid manner. Finding a system to suit his best players and letting them express themselves. A Del Bosque type approach. 2. Your last point is false, La Liga is a better league than is given credit for. The teams are less physical but they are certainly better than the equivalent in the Premiership and certainly the Bundesliga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ok maybe it is a lazy point, and all the leagues atm are basically 2 or at best 3 horse races but that it's news when Real or Barca lose shows how far above the other teams they are (or it's a slightly imagined superiority meaning so many teams just roll over, which is certainly partially true at least). The league below that is certainly good and has plenty of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They have been choke artists since Zidane retired. In the last 10 years in CL the only relevant team they have beaten is Man Yoo. They have only made the Semi's 3 times in 11 years. They do this every year, its not surprising in the slightest. This is just a strange viewpoint. Choke artists? It implies that they're the leaders throughout the season and then bottle it at the end, which isn't how recent history have been regardless of a trophy drought. Barcelona have completely dominated. You could say they've won a lot less trophies than they've aspired to/probably should have considering money spent in recent years, but that's about it. Choke artists/bottlers are something else entirely. They don't do this every year, they do quite well only Barcelona do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The way I look at it: under Pérez presidency (10 seasons not including this one), as he's the one behind the galáctico policy. - 3 league titles - 1 CL - 1 Spanish Cup piss poor return for the sums spent but thats what you get when the needs of the squad are secondary to "whats the biggest name in football we can get?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollof rice and pea Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 That 5-0 was perfect football, probably the best Xavi has ever played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The way I look at it: under Pérez presidency (10 seasons not including this one), as he's the one behind the galáctico policy. - 3 league titles - 1 CL - 1 Spanish Cup p*ss poor return for the sums spent but thats what you get when the needs of the squad are secondary to "whats the biggest name in football we can get?" In recent years they've gone about building very good squads back to front. Well since the Kaka in Robben out debacle. This season I think they have arguably the second strongest squad in the world. The madrid/Spanish lads coming through (and bought back) are providing fantastic depth. Although i've been dissappointed with Carvahal in recent games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 The way I look at it: under Pérez presidency (10 seasons not including this one), as he's the one behind the galáctico policy. - 3 league titles - 1 CL - 1 Spanish Cup p*ss poor return for the sums spent but thats what you get when the needs of the squad are secondary to "whats the biggest name in football we can get?" In recent years they've gone about building very good squads back to front. Well since the Kaka in Robben out debacle. This season I think they have arguably the second strongest squad in the world. The madrid/Spanish lads coming through (and bought back) are providing fantastic depth. Although i've been dissappointed with Carvahal in recent games. Carvajal has been a good signing, but lately him and Bale have been atrocious. Well for the past two games at least. I think they have the 2nd best squad as well, they have much more depth than Barcelona. What they don't have though is an Iniesta or Messi that when they turn up, they turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 They've done a good job of bringing back Carvahal, bringing through Jese and investing in Spanish youth from other clubs. That's really given them real depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 That 5-0 was perfect football, probably the best Xavi has ever played. Can't think of many better performances than that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 That 5-0 was perfect football, probably the best Xavi has ever played. Can't think of many better performances than that like. I haven't looked at Mourinho the same since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Madrid have a great squad indeed, certainly with bigger depth than ours. But once again their penchant for marquee names hurts them. Bale, for example, while certainly a great player, has to play by decree and it has shown in these two past games that it makes Real Madrid too top heavy and easily to break in midfield, as he doesn't track back and doesn't do much in creative areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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