Disco Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 :lol: not sure what's more ridiculous; the bid or the rejection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'm all for Liverpool rejecting bids tbh. Anything to reduce player and agent power is good in my book. What's his contract situation? Signed a new one in January hence why he's so keen leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'm all for Liverpool rejecting bids tbh. Anything to reduce player and agent power is good in my book. What's his contract situation? 2022, signed in Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'm all for player power. Let that lad go and play where he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 You would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't really think Liverpool need a direct first team replacement for Coutinho, they could easily get away with: Salah - Lallana - Mane with Firmino up top and possibly look to bring in a younger player to fill in Coutinho's position. Agree they'd be better off buying Van Djik before this deal happens though Don't agree, if they didn't replace Coutinho whose going to get the front 3 the ball? Henderson and Can? A great front 3 doesn't work without a midfield setting them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't really think Liverpool need a direct first team replacement for Coutinho, they could easily get away with: Salah - Lallana - Mane with Firmino up top and possibly look to bring in a younger player to fill in Coutinho's position. Agree they'd be better off buying Van Djik before this deal happens though Don't agree, if they didn't replace Coutinho whose going to get the front 3 the ball? Henderson and Can? A great front 3 doesn't work without a midfield setting them up. It's not really an out and out front 3, it's behind Firmino. Lallana drops deep to pick up the ball as well, as would Wijnaldum play that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Aye, was going to say Wiji too. Probably a few players they could bring in to replace him as well at a quarter of the price but my minds blank at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Lallana's out for a while anyway. If they had been able to pull of any of the transfers for their top targets I'd say they should take it and go after Pulisic or someone. They've failed with that outside of Salah, just doesn't make sense letting him leave this late without any sign of bringing in someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wijnaldum never wants the ball to feet, and if he does he just passes it backwards or sideways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wijnaldum is good at quite a lot of things, but playmaking and setting up forwards so they are in dangerous positions isn't one of them. Lallana is the only one they'd have who is even decent at it and that's nowhere near enough, what would happen imo in that scenario is Mane being forced to come way too deep to get the ball because the midfield isn't good enough. I'm getting flashbacks to Ben Arfa just thinking about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieglory Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho If Barcelona didn't have 200-odd million burning a hole in their pocket as a direct result of the Neymar transfer, I doubt any club would have been bidding >£100m for Coutinho any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho 100% with you about Coutinho, I actually think De Bruyne is a better player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wijnaldum is good at quite a lot of things, but playmaking and setting up forwards so they are in dangerous positions isn't one of them. Lallana is the only one they'd have who is even decent at it and that's nowhere near enough, what would happen imo in that scenario is Mane being forced to come way too deep to get the ball because the midfield isn't good enough. I'm getting flashbacks to Ben Arfa just thinking about it You've moved the goalposts there like. Originally you asked who would get the ball to Mane, Salah and Lallana. Wijnaldum is obviously capable of doing that, you don't need to be a playmaker or even really a creative player to be able to get it into those areas. They're obviously going to weaken themselves by not having him in there, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you'd think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho 100% with you about Coutinho, I actually think De Bruyne is a better player That's not really profound like. De Bruyne's the best all round player in the league imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wijnaldum is good at quite a lot of things, but playmaking and setting up forwards so they are in dangerous positions isn't one of them. Lallana is the only one they'd have who is even decent at it and that's nowhere near enough, what would happen imo in that scenario is Mane being forced to come way too deep to get the ball because the midfield isn't good enough. I'm getting flashbacks to Ben Arfa just thinking about it You've moved the goalposts there like. Originally you asked who would get the ball to Mane, Salah and Lallana. Wijnaldum is obviously capable of doing that, you don't need to be a playmaker or even really a creative player to be able to get it into those areas. They're obviously going to weaken themselves by not having him in there, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you'd think. Not really i just didn't explain myself very initially with the words i used, also i disagree Wijnaldum is capable tbh. Their midfield as currently set up is nowhere near good enough, they were isolated as a front 3 against bloody Watford. They got away with it up to a point because it's Watford, but in general it's nowhere near good enough. In general if you want to be a good team and have a quality front 3, you will need a midfielder who can make sure said front 3 can maintain pressure and not get isolated. Nobody on that team can do that without Coutinho, i personally don't think Coutinho is as good as some people think but they would obviously need to replace what he provides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho 100% with you about Coutinho, I actually think De Bruyne is a better player Not sure why you're saying that like it's controversial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 City have at least 3 better attacking midfielders than Coutinho by themselves Matter about De Bruyne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hazard's better than De Bruyne like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wijnaldum is good at quite a lot of things, but playmaking and setting up forwards so they are in dangerous positions isn't one of them. Lallana is the only one they'd have who is even decent at it and that's nowhere near enough, what would happen imo in that scenario is Mane being forced to come way too deep to get the ball because the midfield isn't good enough. I'm getting flashbacks to Ben Arfa just thinking about it You've moved the goalposts there like. Originally you asked who would get the ball to Mane, Salah and Lallana. Wijnaldum is obviously capable of doing that, you don't need to be a playmaker or even really a creative player to be able to get it into those areas. They're obviously going to weaken themselves by not having him in there, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you'd think. Not really i just didn't explain myself very initially with the words i used, also i disagree Wijnaldum is capable tbh. Their midfield as currently set up is nowhere near good enough, they were isolated as a front 3 against bloody Watford. They got away with it up to a point because it's Watford, but in general it's nowhere near good enough. In general if you want to be a good team and have a quality front 3, you will need a midfielder who can make sure said front 3 can maintain pressure and not get isolated. Nobody on that team can do that without Coutinho, i personally don't think Coutinho is as good as some people think but they would obviously need to replace what he provides. Well we'll see. I think you're looking into it far too much tbh, they've been capable of getting the ball into that front 3 with a two of Wijnaldum, Henderson, Can, Lucas etc last season, so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to this season when the likes of Lallana always like to drop deep as well. It seems pretty obvious to me that it's Liverpool's defending and goalkeeping that still needs attention more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hazard's better than De Bruyne like As an all round player he's not. Dribbling and goalscoring though, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So Coutinho would've been the first £100m player, if it weren't for Neymar? :lol: Football has completely lost the plot. Coutinho 100% with you about Coutinho, I actually think De Bruyne is a better player I've probably been misunderstood here but I thought the point people were making was that Barca were offering a vast sum of money for the best attacking midfielder in England when most think that there are better players than him in the league. Not sure why you're saying that like it's controversial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It has been interesting to see the reaction among LFC fans on message boards I frequent. When Coutinho to Barca links first surfaced, almost everyone was "We will be unhappy if FSG sanctions the sale of Coutinho" Now with the latest bid, quite a sizable portion of the fans was stunned this was rejected. More to it than what meets the eye, IMO. I think the majority of the money would have been in add-ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Gabriel Paulista to Valencia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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