mozy Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Rubbish article. Harsh. It's on point to a degree, but fails to make reference to the important fact that Colback can't operate as a holding player by himself because he isn't good enough basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Rubbish article. Harsh. It's on point to a degree, but fails to make reference to the important fact that Colback can't operate as a holding player by himself because he isn't good enough basically. It's creating a false image of him as a successful tackler when in reality he's too slow to close down effectively when the opponent has any space. The rest of it I could even put up with such as the safe passing. I actually think he's quite good on the ball other than he slows the game down sometimes while he decides where to pass (usually backwards). I don't know if you ever saw Paul Bracewell when he used to play for Everton, but he was everything that Colback should be. Just played it simple and recycled the ball quickly, but alongside Peter Reid he could shut down the opposition midfield in an instant. They wouldn't be jogging around the centre circle watching the opposition string together nice passing triangles that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If he would just stop pretending that he's going to pass it anywhere else than backwards he would indeed cut down a big chunk of the time he wastes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Maybe, particularly against the bigger sides when we're under the cosh, he's asked to slow the game down a bit and just keep the ball? Not that he'd be capable of launching perfect through ball after through ball if you told him to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Maybe, particularly against the bigger sides when we're under the cosh, he's asked to slow the game down a bit and just keep the ball? Not that he'd be capable of launching perfect through ball after through ball if you told him to mind. What does he do different against the smaller sides? I can't say I've noticed much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Rubbish article. Harsh. It's on point to a degree, but fails to make reference to the important fact that Colback can't operate as a holding player by himself because he isn't good enough basically. It's creating a false image of him as a successful tackler when in reality he's too slow to close down effectively when the opponent has any space. The rest of it I could even put up with such as the safe passing. I actually think he's quite good on the ball other than he slows the game down sometimes while he decides where to pass (usually backwards). I don't know if you ever saw Paul Bracewell when he used to play for Everton, but he was everything that Colback should be. Just played it simple and recycled the ball quickly, but alongside Peter Reid he could shut down the opposition midfield in an instant. They wouldn't be jogging around the centre circle watching the opposition string together nice passing triangles that's for sure. His closing down is absolute shite like, fully agree. Never saw Bracewell but the description you give sounds spot on. Anita was much better at this vs Liverpool, the tackle where he left his foot in on one of their players (Allen?) was one of the most pleased I'd been with him since he joined us. That sounds stupid, but we need him to be a zippy, committed ball winner. Back to Colback, he looks a lot better vs the bigger sides where his job is more simple (no real creative responsibility) and he has less ground to cover because we naturally sit deeper. Vs the smaller sides he sees a lot more of the ball and doesn't do a great deal with it, plus he gets caught out on the counter more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Nailed it for me that article! exactly as he says, he does the unglamourous work, gives the ball to better players who will create things, the better the team around him the better he will look. Astonished to see he has 86% pass rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If you could add aerial prowess and imposing physique imagine what would happen to our midfield... oh well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Colback has never been part of a successful midfield, guess why? It's not difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How long before this ubercunt is suspended again? iirc it's 2 matches for 10 yellows? Utter pap today apart from one or two clearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How long before this ubercunt is suspended again? iirc it's 2 matches for 10 yellows? Utter pap today apart from one or two clearances. That short corner attempt towards the end of the game summed him up. Opportunity to whip a good ball into the box...plays it short, gets it back and doesn't beat the first man. It's ridiculous how terrible he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How long before this ubercunt is suspended again? iirc it's 2 matches for 10 yellows? Utter pap today apart from one or two clearances. That short corner attempt towards the end of the game summed him up. Opportunity to whip a good ball into the box...plays it short, gets it back and doesn't beat the first man. It's ridiculous how terrible he is. I lost it at the tv when he did that. Even Townsend rightly blasted his stupidity in the commentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 God i hope we get at least one new CM asap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He seems to run a lot. Other than that, I can't say I notice him doing anything. Although I think he did put the free kick in for the first goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He seems to run a lot. Other than that, I can't say I notice him doing anything. Although I think he did put the free kick in for the first goal? He did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If i took all Newcastle freekicks i'd get assists as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He always seems involved yet has no influence on the game at all. He's like the carrier bag blowing around the stadium of light. perfect. And at least the carrier bag is worth 5p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What's the cut off for 10 yellows? Is it 31st December, end of Jan or does it not have a cut-off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He is far worse than Tiote when it comes to picking up stupid yellow cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'll never understand why people hate players picking up a yellow card. It's not like he's consistently getting sent off for two yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'll never understand why people hate players picking up a yellow card. It's not like he's consistently getting sent off for two yellows. Is that a serious question? When your central (supposedly combative) midfielder is on a yellow, he has to be on his best behavior so as not to risk a second yellow. Players in that position have to take risks sometimes to stop imminent attacks. I wouldn't mind him picking up yellows, it's just that 99% of the time they're stupidly avoidable yellows where he could have just let the player go as they posed very little threat. Save taking the yellow card for when it's worth it, and not when you foul an opponent in their own fucking half because you can't tackle for shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Right. There was a moment I think before we scored the winner where Kane outmuscled him on the half way line and took the ball up the pitch. Colback stayed with him but couldn't do anything because he was on a yellow. That would have been the moment to get a yellow, not the one he got in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Right. There was a moment I think before we scored the winner where Kane outmuscled him on the half way line and took the ball up the pitch. Colback stayed with him but couldn't do anything because he was on a yellow. That would have been the moment to get a yellow, not the one he got in the first half. I remember shouting for him to bring Kane down and take the red for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'll never understand why people hate players picking up a yellow card. It's not like he's consistently getting sent off for two yellows. Is that a serious question? When your central (supposedly combative) midfielder is on a yellow, he has to be on his best behavior so as not to risk a second yellow. Players in that position have to take risks sometimes to stop imminent attacks. I wouldn't mind him picking up yellows, it's just that 99% of the time they're stupidly avoidable yellows where he could have just let the player go as they posed very little threat. Save taking the yellow card for when it's worth it, and not when you foul an opponent in their own f***ing half because you can't tackle for s***. Right. There was a moment I think before we scored the winner where Kane outmuscled him on the half way line and took the ball up the pitch. Colback stayed with him but couldn't do anything because he was on a yellow. That would have been the moment to get a yellow, not the one he got in the first half. Spot on both of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ...that and yellow cards accumulate over matches as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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