midds Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Don't know a single person who doesn't acknowledge the fact that Jack Colback runs around a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Apparently ran 2.5km more than any other player... He certainly ran a long way after that Southampton player before pulling him down for the booking. That was so cynical the kind of thing that would send me raging if it happened to one of our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Apparently ran 2.5km more than any other player... He certainly ran a long way after that Southampton player before pulling him down for the booking. That was so cynical the kind of thing that would send me raging if it happened to one of our players. Wouldn't have been as bad if he had managed to take him down without needing ten attempts at it. Also the way he lost the ball to lead to the foul was pathetic. Weak as piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 It was the right thing to do once he'd got past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 It was the right thing to do once he'd got past him. Problem is he gets himself in that situation too many times. Out of position and then too slow to catch them up so has to hack them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 It's all about opinions. Mine is that players like Colback rarely catch the eye whilst on the ball. It's not often that they inspire us, or we marvel at their contribution (in a "Christ I'm couldn't do that" kind of way). But you sharp notice the difference if nobody is doing that role: harrying (Gateshead/Morpeth Harrier-ing?? ) hassling, doing the running, closing down, narrowing the options, tackling. David Batty used to get a lot of stick (self included) for his sideways movement/slowing down of attacking momentum, but had recognition from those who know, including Sir BR. (Soldiers are reliable, artists are not). I personally rate Colback more highly. IMO he consistently puts in disciplined performances, and 'goes that extra mile' (or 2.5km...) and I include willingness to take a card for the team within a sense of discipline and commitment. I think he'll be a regular starter, and reckon he'll add five goals, even from his deep role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I'm insulted on David Batty's behalf at that comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Suspect DB wouldn't be that arsed...he had a hard shell... picked it up from Ray Wilkins... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 It's all about opinions. Mine is that players like Colback rarely catch the eye whilst on the ball. It's not often that they inspire us, or we marvel at their contribution (in a "Christ I'm couldn't do that" kind of way). But you sharp notice the difference if nobody is doing that role: harrying (Gateshead/Morpeth Harrier-ing?? ) hassling, doing the running, closing down, narrowing the options, tackling. David Batty used to get a lot of stick (self included) for his sideways movement/slowing down of attacking momentum, but had recognition from those who know, including Sir BR. (Soldiers are reliable, artists are not). I personally rate Colback more highly. IMO he consistently puts in disciplined performances, and 'goes that extra mile' (or 2.5km...) and I include willingness to take a card for the team within a sense of discipline and commitment. I think he'll be a regular starter, and reckon he'll add five goals, even from his deep role. f*** me. Recognizing what Colback is supposed to bring to the team despite his lack of real quality is one thing, and comparing him to David Batty is quite another. If Colback was anywhere near Batty's quality then he SHOULD be the first name on the team sheet. He isn't half the player though. Seeing as he plays for NUFC I would love nothing more than for him to improve to that level however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I'm usually quite patient with players but I can't see what he offers, genuinely. He's not as good as Tiote at breaking up play/DM, his passing and distribution is much worse that Anita, his set pieces are awful and presumably Wijnaldum will prove consistently better at those. He can't really dribble and he's not quick. He does have an alreet shot and gets on a few blocks like today (although why is he so deep in the first place?) but he's not worth accommodating IMO. But he is at least decent in all of the categories you describe above. He's currently our best allround CM (let's wait until Gini settles) so I can totally understand why he's picked to play. Do yo really think he is decent - I would say borderline average at best and I still say if he plays the majority of games then the team will end up absolutely nowhere. Can't believe some people actually think he is ok and the worrying thing is I actually think McCLaren will play him in every game. The amount of stupid free kicks he gives away is bordering on thickness and always in dangerous positions. He doesn't create anything and all he does is slow play down every time he gets the ball. In my opinion there was five players in that team who shouldn't be anywhere near it Colback, Anita, Colo, Hiadara and Obertan. If these continue to play over a period of time then there is no way this team is going to be anywhere apart from at the bottom end. If the question was do I think a team with Jack Colback starting in CM can finish in the top 7/8 of the Premier League then yes, absolutely. It's the old glue guy argument from Basketball, just doing most things to a decent standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Shouldn't be starting games for us unless injuries absolutely dictate it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Apparently ran 2.5km more than any other player... That'd be ace to know if we were a running club and not a football club. My man, Ash, :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 He was running really hard to keep up with Mane (was it?) just then. Couldn't even hack him down at the first try so had to run some more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Shouldn't be starting games for us unless injuries absolutely dictate it Harsh, he was as good as Anita today, although I'd be looking at strengthening that position before a forward (that counts for Cloback, Anita, Tiote and Abeid) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 This board is negative as fuck. He had a decent game today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think he's a poor player but he did alright today. Just disappeared when his legs went as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 He's bland as f***. Hate seeing him on the ball. Zero excitement. Maybe the team needs someone like that, but he still annoys me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 This board is negative as f***. He had a decent game today. He was at worst average today, and yet we are still gifted with continuous discussion of how poor a player he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm insulted on David Batty's behalf at that comparison. Just reminded me of the 'Rob Lee with less goals' comparison from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 This board is negative as f***. He had a decent game today. He was at worst average today, and yet we are still gifted with continuous discussion of how poor a player he is. Absolute idiots in this forum- go and wank off over Ben arfa in nice and watch them finish 7th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Jack Colback can only dream of playing in a team that could finish 7th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Jack Colback can only dream of playing in a team that could finish 7th. Saved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I actually thought he's had plenty better games last season than he did today, didn't think it was a particularly good performance by him by any means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Shouldn't be starting games for us unless injuries absolutely dictate it Harsh, he was as good as Anita today, although I'd be looking at strengthening that position before a forward (that counts for Cloback, Anita, Tiote and Abeid) not really, we've realistically got one spot for either anita, colback or tiote to play the recycling possession / picking up from fullbacks and distributing game anita is the best we have at it, has been for ages, and it's slowly starting to dawn on some people that this is the truth tiote (when fit) offers much more presence, pace and physicality than colback in the defensive side of things arguably between tiote and colback to backup anita imo, when everyone is fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 This board is negative as f***. He had a decent game today. He was at worst average today, and yet we are still gifted with continuous discussion of how poor a player he is. Absolute idiots in this forum- go and wank off over Ben arfa in nice and watch them finish 7th It saddens me that people have such hate for the players who try to play the beautiful game. It is not your fault lad, you are a product of the media, you've been made to feel this way. One day you will break free and it will be a glorious day. I will pray for you my son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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