Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What a drip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Has he always been this way? I really don't remember his attitude being so WUMmy back in the day. Maybe I never noticed because I just didn't see the great value added to the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 So - Nobody/any other Mods, that post is fine and dandy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 LOL very much nitpicking. A lot of battling CM's pick up a lot of yellow cards. And they often have to play it safer in games before a big match. I think it's more the way he does it, by lacking an engine and being constantly out of position and chasing the game. If he was dominating the opposition midfield and putting in big tackles it would be different. It's just an excuse to have another pointless dig at the lad. Had he made a tackle that even put him in danger of getting a yellow, many would rightly criticise him for being stupid ahead of such a momentous game. He's a pretty crap PL midfielder - people don't need to invent reasons to have a go at him. You mean in the same way you find excuses to have pointless digs at Mbemba? Colback is a coward and brings absolutely nothing to the team. He'll make a block once every 5 games or so, but other than that he's as desperate and useless a PL player as one can get. Not at all surprising that people will have a dig at him for stealing a living. Contrast that with Mbemba who is new to the league and has shown far more in the 8 games or so he has played in than Colback ever has in his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Mbemba's poor aerial abilities keep costing us goals. Of his 30 aerial duels, he's lost 16. More than a couple have lead to goals. Colback's pretty crap. But I won't make things up just to have a dig at him. There's enough genuine evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Mbemba's poor aerial abilities keep costing us goals. Of his 30 aerial duels, he's lost 16. More than a couple have lead to goals. Colback's pretty crap. But I won't make things up just to have a dig at him. There's enough genuine evidence. What has anybody made up about Colback? Most of the criticism of his performances are usually based on pretty sound reasoning. When we signed him I actually stuck up for the move, despite at the time the abuse he was getting for being a ginger/mackem cunt. Since then though I have to admit I was wrong and that he is a liability regardless of being ginger or a mackem or a cunt ( this one is debatable). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm not defending the lads ability. But the "bottling challenges" stuff is silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I only add value to the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. Where are the 'facts' on there? Is it that red label where it lists under aerial duels 'very weak'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm not defending the lads ability. But the "bottling challenges" stuff is silly. It really isn't, especially seeing that he does actually bottle entire matches let alone challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Fucking aerial duels man FFS. Have never heard one normal football fan ever use that term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. So he's won half of his aerial duels? If he was poor, he'd be winning much less surely? What about strikers who score 1 out of their 3 shots? Are they poor? Anyone can use stats to prove a point. The eyes & brain combination is a better indicator IMO, and I can confidently say that Mbemba has had a very promising start to his PL career, and has shown a lot more strength than weakness. He's the least of our problems in defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Fucking aerial duels man FFS. Have never heard one normal football fan ever use that term. Every thread is littered with the same shit about Mbemba and Anita and them losing their aerial duels, almost always out of nowhere, out of context and in the wrong thread. It's just brought up wherever there are loads of people in one thread. Thread after thread, time after time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm not defending the lads ability. But the "bottling challenges" stuff is silly. It really isn't, especially seeing that he does actually bottle entire matches let alone challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If you're lost you can look and you'll find TCD. Thread after thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. So he's won half of his aerial duels? If he was poor, he'd be winning much less surely? What about strikers who score 1 out of their 3 shots? Are they poor? Anyone can use stats to prove a point. The eyes & brain combination is a better indicator IMO, and I can confidently say that Mbemba has had a very promising start to his PL career, and has shown a lot more strength than weakness. He's the least of our problems in defence. Aye, he's 21 and probably getting used to the pace and physicality of the league. I reckon he'll end up dominating when he plays alongside a better CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The Contrarian Donut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. So he's won half of his aerial duels? If he was poor, he'd be winning much less surely? What about strikers who score 1 out of their 3 shots? Are they poor? Anyone can use stats to prove a point. The eyes & brain combination is a better indicator IMO, and I can confidently say that Mbemba has had a very promising start to his PL career, and has shown a lot more strength than weakness. He's the least of our problems in defence. 1. Like I said, it's an observation that i've tried to back up with facts. We've conceded goals from Mbemba losing out in the air and from his poor headed clearances. We also look very susceptible to concede from set-pieces of which Mbemba is part of the problem. 2. You really think a CB should win half his aerial battles? By comparison: Van Dijk has won 27 of 36. Vertonghen 24 of 38. Smalling 34 of 56. Coloccini 12 of 22. I find it disingenuous that Colback gets a lot of stick for actually engaging his brain for once and making sure not to pick up a suspension. But another player can consistently lack in such a important area for his position and it's never mentioned. The same thing happened with Colo when his lack of physicality really began to cost us. I'm here to criticise Colback when it comes to holding on the ball for too long, always choosing the safe pass, not showing for the ball enough and being immobile as owt. But we should be fair in our assessments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He's not "poor" in the air FFS! http://www.whoscored.com/Players/104368 Chancel Mbemba's Characteristics - have a gander at his weaknesses. These are just the facts to back up obvious observations. So he's won half of his aerial duels? If he was poor, he'd be winning much less surely? What about strikers who score 1 out of their 3 shots? Are they poor? Anyone can use stats to prove a point. The eyes & brain combination is a better indicator IMO, and I can confidently say that Mbemba has had a very promising start to his PL career, and has shown a lot more strength than weakness. He's the least of our problems in defence. Winning half isn't really enough for a centre half like. I wouldn't worry about it too much though given he's young Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 And there's no way he's 21 lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I would suggest that you're not thick enough to not see the obvious, basic differences between Colback and Mbemba as players, their histories, the context of who they replaced etc. Especially...ye nah...in the Jack Colback thread, where Jack Colback is discussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I didn't bring up Chancel first. Just defended earlier points. I'm talking strictly asessing performances. The usual about his slowness and limited passing applies but NOT getting a yellow card was a good thing and i'm glad he realised he had to be more sensible than usual. I wouldn't want Gouffran or first half Tiote starting against Sunderland in his place tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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