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It's very recent. He was number 4 when he joined in January and also for a few days this pre-season while he was waiting for a new number

 

 

Hasn't been posting since February, but the second Hatem is getting abused, WHAM! :lol:

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So boring this, like. He's got a gut, it's unprofessional. He's clearly gained a lot of weight in the past 2 years which has coincided with a massive career slump. I love his talent and will miss him playing for us but there's blatantly something wrong. Let's move on.

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His upper body is not that fat, no. But that's only because the fat accumulating process starts at the hips/arse area and then makes its way around the rest of the body. (Which is less noticeable to the naked eye than lower body fat.)

 

He needs to sort himself out, but I don't think he's gives a damn.

 

 

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So boring this, like. He's got a gut, it's unprofessional. He's clearly gained a lot of weight in the past 2 years which has coincided with a massive career slump. I love his talent and will miss him playing for us but there's blatantly something wrong. Let's move on.

 

Agree.

 

But I don't particularly want to move on.... there's no dull moment with HBA. :lol:

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So boring this, like. He's got a gut, it's unprofessional. He's clearly gained a lot of weight in the past 2 years which has coincided with a massive career slump. I love his talent and will miss him playing for us but there's blatantly something wrong. Let's move on.

 

 

or let everyone talk about what they want to on a forum and just don't get involved in the discussion if you don't want to. It'll go the way that it works with everything else on here, it'll die out naturally of its own accord.

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Most stuff on here is pretty undebatable until the season starts. Everything's pretty much reminiscing or predicting any way.

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Incredible how extreme/black & white the opinions on HBA are on here. It's literally either 'he's fat, lazy and the sole engineer of his downfall' or 'he's been horribly mismanaged and it's everyone else's fault.' The truth lies somewhere in the middle does it not?

 

Hatem is probably the most talented player I've ever seen pull on an NUFC shirt (I am only 26 though). The way he can beat a man is incredible. That being said, he can be incredibly frustrating on the pitch too. I'd love to have a fit, motivated HBA still here though. The excitement he brings on the pitch is difficult to replicate, that's why people are still talking about him.

 

Pardew mismanaged him to an extent but his attitude (and from all accounts in training) didn't help. His weight problems are surely an indicator of that-

 

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I really hope he makes a good fist of it at Nice. He's still got a few years in him if he can dedicate himself to the cause. I certainly hope I get to watch him fly past a few players one more time.

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It goes all the way back to Pardew saying HBA didn't want to play out wide, a few weeks after he signed. This was Pardew's first excuse for not playing him, after HBA had done an interview with the chronicle saying that he wanted to supply the crosses for Carroll.

 

 

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Or maybe because his fitness want up to scratch.

No. He played well - albeit sparodically due to Pardew dropping him all the time - for over 6 months after returing from his injury in pre season training until he was finally allowed to start regularly over Pardew's Obertan. I specifically remember him looking sharp against Man City on his 1st or 2nd game back from that injury (I think he might have hit the post actually).
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Or maybe because his fitness want up to scratch.

No. He played well - albeit sparodically due to Pardew dropping him all the time - for over 6 months after returing from his injury in pre season training until he was finally allowed to start regularly over Pardew's Obertan. I specifically remember him looking sharp against Man City on his 1st or 2nd game back from that injury (I think he might have hit the post actually).

 

You still didnt know what his fitness levels were like to last the 90 odds minutes, though? Did you?

 

Because looking 'sharp' for the odd 20 minute here and there is not something to go on. That could be anything, like short term energy.

 

Nobody can tell whether his condition, cardiovsuclar or otherwise, was ready for regular football. (Unless you have access to his fitness stats, of course?)

 

 

 

 

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Neither did you, neither did anyone, because we never got to see. THAT IS THE POINT.

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Or maybe because his fitness want up to scratch.

No. He played well - albeit sparodically due to Pardew dropping him all the time - for over 6 months after returing from his injury in pre season training until he was finally allowed to start regularly over Pardew's Obertan. I specifically remember him looking sharp against Man City on his 1st or 2nd game back from that injury (I think he might have hit the post actually).

 

You still didnt know what his fitness levels were like to last the 90 odds minutes, though? Did you?

 

Because looking 'sharp' for the odd 20 minute here and there is not something to go on. That could be anything, like short term energy.

 

Nobody can tell whether his condition, cardiovsuclar or otherwise, was ready for regular football. (Unless you have access to his fitness stats, of course?)

 

 

 

 

 

That'll be the reason where we kept bringing back players before they were ready, under pardew's tenure.

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You still didnt know what his fitness levels were like to last the 90 odds minutes, though? Did you?

 

Because looking 'sharp' for the odd 20 minute here and there is not something to go on. That could be anything, like short term energy.

 

Nobody can tell whether his condition, cardiovsuclar or otherwise, was ready for regular football. (Unless you have access to his fitness stats, of course?)

 

 

:lol:

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