Chicane Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I have taken younger kids to watch games on a couple of occasions, and I must have hit lucky that Ben Arfa had stormers in some of those. Took a couple of nephews from Scotland to a game where he ran from the halfway line taking out 3 defenders before sticking it in the net and the roof came off the place. Those two were hooked for life. Players like Ben Arfa are why we all become fans in the first place. The players who do things the rest of can't do, that thrill us, inspire us and most of all bring excitement and passion to the game. Even last year when Ben Arfa was supposedly the root of all our problems (in Pardew's eyes, and in the eyes of the sheep who follow him), any time he got the ball the entire atmosphere in SJP picked up. A murmur goes around the stadium and people get up on their feet in anticipation. Nobody falls in love with football because of good organization or a solid defensive shape. No kids are gonna watch Gouffran tracking back and say to their dad 'I wanna be like him when I grow up' and then rush down the park as soon as they can to try and imitate it. He had his faults of course, and that isn't to say he should necessarily have been playing every game because of course you have to be pragmatic and tactically astute as well if you want to win games but I will never understand why fans would actually turn on him like they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also check "Ben Arfa the Maverick One" on Dailymotion Genuinely crying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also check "Ben Arfa the Maverick One" on Dailymotion Genuinely crying. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also check "Ben Arfa the Maverick One" on Dailymotion Genuinely crying. Can't wait to read your letter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Someone do the 'shopp please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The hell is the point of sports if you can't have a guy like this in the team. Exactly Talented players are dicks. It happens. Not having him in the team because of that is an indication that winning isn't everything. Which makes even less sense when in the context of Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The hell is the point of sports if you can't have a guy like this in the team. Exactly Talented players are dicks. It happens. Not having him in the team because of that is an indication that winning isn't everything. Which makes even less sense when in the context of Newcastle United. This isn't a club that wants to win. Winning means nothing to NUFC. Stay up, TV money. Fill the stadium, get as many eyes looking at those Sports Direct signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This work ethic stuff is hilarious to me He's a forward, you are not supposed to have him track back constantly in his own half because it's ineffective. Look at all the best teams, hell even just good teams they don't make their forwards (centre or wide) track back into his own half the way Pardew made him. They make them press from the front, but once it gets past their zone it becomes the midfields problem and so on. Most teams defend like that now. Not like Ben Arfa never did that, I don't want Ben Arfa defending deep inside his own half anyway he's shit at it. He should be nowhere near his own box, he's a danger to the team like most forwards are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 For some reason, one moment that sticks out for me is a game against stoke (I think). Cross field ball to him, as its dropping most would bring it down in the usual standard style, hba decides to trap in as its about to hit the ground. Sounds shit and boring but the technique was ridiculous. Sure there's a video somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also check "Ben Arfa the Maverick One" on Dailymotion Nah. I can't. I have to let him go. We had the right team, and the wrong man in charge. We'll be mad about it for a long time. At one point in time this was our potential team, Mike. Krul Debuchy Yanga-Mbiwa Coloccini Santon Anita Cabaye Sissoko Ben Arfa Cisse Remy to to to IT'S ANGRY ANGUISH! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This work ethic stuff is hilarious to me He's a forward, you are not supposed to have him track back constantly in his own half because it's ineffective. Look at all the best teams, hell even just good teams they don't make their forwards (centre or wide) track back into his own half the way Pardew made him. They make them press from the front, but once it gets past their zone it becomes the midfields problem and so on. Most teams defend like that now. Not like Ben Arfa never did that, I don't want Ben Arfa defending deep inside his own half anyway he's shit at it. He should be nowhere near his own box, he's a danger to the team like most forwards are. Used to do my fucking head in when he'd be "tracking back" and pick the ball up on the corner of our own box. What a fucking waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also check "Ben Arfa the Maverick One" on Dailymotion Nah. I can't. I have to let him go. We had the right team, and the wrong man in charge. We'll be mad about it for a long time. At one point in time this was our potential team, Mike. Krul Debuchy Yanga-Mbiwa Coloccini Santon Anita Cabaye Sissoko Ben Arfa Cisse Remy to to to IT'S ANGRY ANGUISH! There is no reason whatsoever to think on it. We had a shot and we missed it. We didn't get beat, we decided not to compete. Can only hope tomorrow is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 For some reason, one moment that sticks out for me is a game against stoke (I think). Cross field ball to him, as its dropping most would bring it down in the usual standard style, hba decides to trap in as its about to hit the ground. Sounds s*** and boring but the technique was ridiculous. Sure there's a video somewhere. There is on YT its insane You know the name? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That team though Mike, that team could have gone somewhere, it really could have. They are all very good players, all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That team though Mike, that team could have gone somewhere, it really could have. They are all very good players, all of them. It wouldn't have gone anywhere because it would have been Krul booting high balls to Cisse for 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 For some reason, one moment that sticks out for me is a game against stoke (I think). Cross field ball to him, as its dropping most would bring it down in the usual standard style, hba decides to trap in as its about to hit the ground. Sounds s*** and boring but the technique was ridiculous. Sure there's a video somewhere. There is on YT its insane You know the name? Ben Arfa Control Vs. Stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This work ethic stuff is hilarious to me He's a forward, you are not supposed to have him track back constantly in his own half because it's ineffective. Look at all the best teams, hell even just good teams they don't make their forwards (centre or wide) track back into his own half the way Pardew made him. They make them press from the front, but once it gets past their zone it becomes the midfields problem and so on. Most teams defend like that now. Not like Ben Arfa never did that, I don't want Ben Arfa defending deep inside his own half anyway he's s*** at it. He should be nowhere near his own box, he's a danger to the team like most forwards are. Used to do my f***ing head in when he'd be "tracking back" and pick the ball up on the corner of our own box. What a f***ing waste of time. Only to get a load of shit from the crowd when he lost it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This work ethic stuff is hilarious to me He's a forward, you are not supposed to have him track back constantly in his own half because it's ineffective. Look at all the best teams, hell even just good teams they don't make their forwards (centre or wide) track back into his own half the way Pardew made him. They make them press from the front, but once it gets past their zone it becomes the midfields problem and so on. Most teams defend like that now. Not like Ben Arfa never did that, I don't want Ben Arfa defending deep inside his own half anyway he's s*** at it. He should be nowhere near his own box, he's a danger to the team like most forwards are. Usually, when you are playing as a winger, it´s your job to follow the fullback if he advances. If you are not doing that, it usually mean 2 v 1 situation on your flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That team though Mike, that team could have gone somewhere, it really could have. They are all very good players, all of them. It wouldn't have gone anywhere because it would have been Krul booting high balls to Cisse for 90 minutes. Ah nah, obviously I mean if between the years 2011 and 2015 we'd had a manager and not an actual cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 For some reason, one moment that sticks out for me is a game against stoke (I think). Cross field ball to him, as its dropping most would bring it down in the usual standard style, hba decides to trap in as its about to hit the ground. Sounds s*** and boring but the technique was ridiculous. Sure there's a video somewhere. There is on YT its insane You know the name? Ben Arfa Control Vs. Stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That team though Mike, that team could have gone somewhere, it really could have. They are all very good players, all of them. It wouldn't have gone anywhere because it would have been Krul booting high balls to Cisse for 90 minutes. Ah nah, obviously I mean if between the years 2011 and 2015 we'd had a manager and not an actual cunt. But we didn't, KI. This was our shot. This week. They called him back to fire him. That's who we support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He has been my favourite player ever since he came here. He directly influenced by own game when I played as well I'm so glad I got to see his goal at Fulham, I went completely beserk. He's gona be one of the players I tell my kids about in years to come, he's the reason we go to matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That team though Mike, that team could have gone somewhere, it really could have. They are all very good players, all of them. It wouldn't have gone anywhere because it would have been Krul booting high balls to Cisse for 90 minutes. Ah nah, obviously I mean if between the years 2011 and 2015 we'd had a manager and not an actual cunt. But we didn't, KI. This was our shot. This week. They called him back to fire him. That's who we support. Oh God, no. I'm going to spend years beating myself up over that team like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I hope nice get a decent amount of games on bt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This work ethic stuff is hilarious to me He's a forward, you are not supposed to have him track back constantly in his own half because it's ineffective. Look at all the best teams, hell even just good teams they don't make their forwards (centre or wide) track back into his own half the way Pardew made him. They make them press from the front, but once it gets past their zone it becomes the midfields problem and so on. Most teams defend like that now. Not like Ben Arfa never did that, I don't want Ben Arfa defending deep inside his own half anyway he's s*** at it. He should be nowhere near his own box, he's a danger to the team like most forwards are. Usually, when you are playing as a winger, it´s your job to follow the fullback if he advances. If you are not doing that, it usually mean 2 v 1 situation on your flank. That's Pardew's fault for playing a flat 442, he's not a winger in a traditional sense so doesn’t have the same tendencies. He was great as a Right Forward in a 433 because of the reasons mentioned many times before and the fact he didn't need to hold his full backs hands. I genuinely wonder who impersonated Pardew during that month as it clearly wasn't him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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