Yaron Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9320126/transfer-news-newcastle-move-for-ayoze-perez Perez has a release clause of €2million (£1.8million) and Newcastle have already informed Tenerife that they will pay that. :lol: Thanks for that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The youth team being "fuck all" to do with our manager and the first team is part of the reason why we don't bring good players through. The left hand couldn't care less about what the right hand is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I love how the topic of discussion is irrelevant, could be youth development, or media relations, or the going rate for advertising hoardings, or sponsorship deals, everyone on here becomes a fucking expert. Yes, our youth development record is patchy, but the youth team has fuck all to do with Pardew or the first team. In fact, first team opportunities for the kids is something we as a club are pretty generous with. Have to disagree there, we would have seen a lot more of the like of Bigi and Sammy and a lot less of Gosling and Shola if we gave youth a bit more of a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The youth team being "f*** all" to do with our manager and the first team is part of the reason why we don't bring good players through. The left hand couldn't care less about what the right hand is doing. Wish the left and right hand would team up and fucking throttle Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The youth team being "fuck all" to do with our manager and the first team is part of the reason why we don't bring good players through. The left hand couldn't care less about what the right hand is doing. None of the top clubs, including those with solid youth development, have the first team coach heavily involved with the youth team. Wenger takes a particular interest but he's an oddity. And generally speaking we're talking about 17 and 18 year olds even with Wenger. The first team coach has a very specific job to do and that's get the team prepared for Saturday. The youth team coaches need to be advocates for their players if they think they're good enough. That's not to say the left hand and right hand don't know what the other is doing. Southampton, who get a lot of praise, have implemented a club philosophy that filters down from the Director of Football to the Director of Coaching and then the coaches at every level of the club. There's a coherent culture that gets reinforced at all levels. But it's not the job of the first team coaches specifically to propagate that. It's the club infrastructure. That's what we lack. Pardew isn't a youth team coach and I don't want him to become one. He needs to take the players that are ready and integrate them into the first team. If they aren't good enough then that needs to be addressed but it's bugger all to do with the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I love how the topic of discussion is irrelevant, could be youth development, or media relations, or the going rate for advertising hoardings, or sponsorship deals, everyone on here becomes a fucking expert. Yes, our youth development record is patchy, but the youth team has fuck all to do with Pardew or the first team. In fact, first team opportunities for the kids is something we as a club are pretty generous with. Have to disagree there, we would have seen a lot more of the like of Bigi and Sammy and a lot less of Gosling and Shola if we gave youth a bit more of a chance. Arguably. But he seems perfectly comfortable playing Dummett. I think it's more that he isn't convinced some of the other kids are good enough. He has criticized them publicly before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 If Pardew had anything resembling a structure in place for the first team (or any managerial talent whatsoever), maybe every young player we bring through wouldn't completely stagnate when they actually do get into the squad. 'Fuck all to do with the manager'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I love how the topic of discussion is irrelevant, could be youth development, or media relations, or the going rate for advertising hoardings, or sponsorship deals, everyone on here becomes a fucking expert. Yes, our youth development record is patchy, but the youth team has fuck all to do with Pardew or the first team. In fact, first team opportunities for the kids is something we as a club are pretty generous with. Have to disagree there, we would have seen a lot more of the like of Bigi and Sammy and a lot less of Gosling and Shola if we gave youth a bit more of a chance. Arguably. But he seems perfectly comfortable playing Dummett. I think it's more that he isn't convinced some of the other kids are good enough. He has criticized them publicly before. Dummett is only 4 months younger than Santon and 9 months older than Haidara. He's not exactly gambled on the youngster Him not being convinced by the youth is the problem. He has shown time and time again he'll rather go with the "safe" option which is why players like Gosling and Shola were getting games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9320126/transfer-news-newcastle-move-for-ayoze-perez Perez has a release clause of €2million (£1.8million) and Newcastle have already informed Tenerife that they will pay that. :lol: Thanks for that! Tyneside Giants "Can't compete" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I love how the topic of discussion is irrelevant, could be youth development, or media relations, or the going rate for advertising hoardings, or sponsorship deals, everyone on here becomes a fucking expert. Yes, our youth development record is patchy, but the youth team has fuck all to do with Pardew or the first team. In fact, first team opportunities for the kids is something we as a club are pretty generous with. Have to disagree there, we would have seen a lot more of the like of Bigi and Sammy and a lot less of Gosling and Shola if we gave youth a bit more of a chance. Arguably. But he seems perfectly comfortable playing Dummett. I think it's more that he isn't convinced some of the other kids are good enough. He has criticized them publicly before. Dummett is only 4 months younger than Santon and 9 months older than Haidara. He's not exactly gambled on the youngster Him not being convinced by the youth is the problem. He has shown time and time again he'll rather go with the "safe" option which is why players like Gosling and Shola were getting games. . Dummett is still only 22 and of limited experience. I still fully expect you're right with him seeing Shola and Gosling as safer options but the question needs to be asked, why is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Coming according to Marca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Sounds decent (until we get to him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I love how the topic of discussion is irrelevant, could be youth development, or media relations, or the going rate for advertising hoardings, or sponsorship deals, everyone on here becomes a fucking expert. Yes, our youth development record is patchy, but the youth team has fuck all to do with Pardew or the first team. In fact, first team opportunities for the kids is something we as a club are pretty generous with. Have to disagree there, we would have seen a lot more of the like of Bigi and Sammy and a lot less of Gosling and Shola if we gave youth a bit more of a chance. Arguably. But he seems perfectly comfortable playing Dummett. I think it's more that he isn't convinced some of the other kids are good enough. He has criticized them publicly before. Dummett is only 4 months younger than Santon and 9 months older than Haidara. He's not exactly gambled on the youngster Him not being convinced by the youth is the problem. He has shown time and time again he'll rather go with the "safe" option which is why players like Gosling and Shola were getting games. . Dummett is still only 22 and of limited experience. I still fully expect you're right with him seeing Shola and Gosling as safer options but the question needs to be asked, why is that? The manager is addicted to windolene? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Coming according to Marca Impressive, that's some inside info right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Time to you tube him to scupper this deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/5YXrwxV.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Sorry gents, afraid of over sharing http://www.marca.com/2014/05/21/futbol/equipos/tenerife/1400685788.html Google translate: Ayoze Perez has chosen to continue his England career. Tenerife Pearl defend shield Newcastle next season, according to advanced Radio Club Tenerife. The player has passed a medical and signed commitment. Missing from the Tenerife section will close a negotiation that is personally taking Miguel Concepción. Just need official confirmation . All indications are that , regardless of the clubs to sign the agreement , it will not be announced until the end of participation in Tenerife Second or run out of options to fight for the playoffs. On Monday surprised the absence of Perez Ayoze in remedial training team . The club would only say that he had permission to leave because "he was fixing some paperwork ." At night , the Association of Sports Press Island gave an award and did not attend , sent his brother to collect the award . The detail confirmed the rumors . The youth was in Newcastle to pass a medical examination and closing a transfer by the Magpies undertake to pay to Tenerife as provided in clause of rescission , ie about 2 million. The player was very satisfied with the amounts offered the Newcastle, but still need to finish the matter with the narrow Tenerife , as well as seeking to recover the amounts due to the transfer of the player, as a possible transfer possibilities or collecting traded for future transfer . Newcastle is one of the Premier clubs who have followed Perez Ayoze months. His scouts have seen both play point on the island and the peninsula, the most recent of Norman Wooster against Real Jaen. The Newcastle bet on the future fichando Tenerife young footballer . It is also a bold step in the white club this season has been located in the middle of the classification and aims to improve its effectiveness to fight for European competition play . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Another transfer which has sneaked under the radar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Another transfer which has sneaked under the radar Another talent wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 http://www.worldsoccer.com/blogs/ayoze-perez 20 years old, Release clause of 2m euros. Versatile. Winger, playmaker, 2nd striker. Lots of pace. Sounds plausible to me. Nice cheap bench sitter. Too much tricks not enough fret. No tackles. Pardewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Guys, I agree that Pardew is shite but every single thread is full of 'Pardewed' The guy is staying, so it's best we move the fuck on, because there's nowt we can do about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 f*** that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Fucking the fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yep..lets just accept everything and not voice our concerns/opinions. Constant state of is how it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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