The other games today - 2014/15

[Jack Flash]

Villa must think football is black.

I still don't get the difference.

 

You're a disgrace Pip. A big disgrace.

When gay is used in a derogatory sense, there's no difference!

 

I'm not going to get into this, but you're wrong. Very wrong.

Kobe was fined for using a slur. It's the same thing, bro. Get with the times.

 

Homophobia will eventually reach the level of racism. Won't be for a while though as it's fairly new and people are fucking idiots.

[Taylor Swift]

Harry Kane, the second coming if NBC are to be believed.

This annoyed me all game.

[Klaus]

Kane has a permanent Lerp face

[Skeletor]

Glad I stopped watching. Prine Harry FFS. Hate the media.

[Guest neesy111]

Kane sounds like he has something in his throat.

[maybe_next_year]

Congratulations on finally scoring brummie!

[brummie]

Last 36 games - lost 23 of them.

 

Goal difference = -34.

 

Safest manager in the league.

[Wullie]

Safest manager in the league.

 

[brummie]

Incidentally, Spurs are the worst team I've seen at Villa Park this season, and that possibly includes even us, they were truly feeble.

 

The fact we let them win is just staggering.

 

That Mason is an absolute cunt, mind. He had his head right in Benteke's face, and the minute he reacts, he runs straight to the ref. What a cunt.

 

Benteke was fuckign stupid and was always going to get sent off, but Mason should have gone as well.

[brummie]

Safest manager in the league.

 

 

Another new record smashed today.

 

Longest run of defeats for 47 years, which takes it just outside my life time.

[Wullie]

Incidentally, Spurs are the worst team I've seen at Villa Park this season, and that possibly includes even us, they were truly feeble.

 

The fact we let them win is just staggering.

 

That Mason is an absolute cunt, mind. He had his head right in Benteke's face, and the minute he reacts, he runs straight to the ref. What a cunt.

 

Benteke was fuckign stupid and was always going to get sent off, but Mason should have gone as well.

 

Vertonghen should have gone two minutes earlier as well if the referees are going to be consistent. Absolute carbon copy of Debuchy's tackle at West Brom last year.

[Wullie]

Safest manager in the league.

 

 

Another new record smashed today.

 

Longest run of defeats for 47 years, which takes it just outside my life time.

 

Pff. We were losing 6 on the bounce before it was cool.

[Kanj]

Incidentally, Spurs are the worst team I've seen at Villa Park this season, and that possibly includes even us, they were truly feeble.

 

The fact we let them win is just staggering.

 

That Mason is an absolute c***, mind. He had his head right in Benteke's face, and the minute he reacts, he runs straight to the ref. What a c***.

 

Benteke was fuckign stupid and was always going to get sent off, but Mason should have gone as well.

 

Don't even say that about Benteke man, he was getting absolutley molested by the Spurs players and then Mason goes and tries to be a big man in front of the massive monster that is Benteke. Mason deserved a yellow for that, Lamela deserved a yellow for doing the card showing bull shit, and Benteke a yellow for getting Mason out of his face (not that I agree with that).

 

Sick to death of the second player always getting the red, it's stupid man. Letter of the law my ass, change the law then; Spurs got lucky.

[DJ_NUFC]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

[brummie]

38% possession against a side as poor as Spurs, and just the one shot on target.

[brummie]

But Lambert has just, apparently, been on Sky Sports and said we were "excellent".

[Wullie]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

 

Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

[brummie]

I think your crowds are freakishly good. There's plenty to admire in that.

 

However, I just know too many people who are of exactly the same opinion as me and have had enough.

 

This is the year we get relegated, I can tell. I saw it happen the last time and all the same signs are there.

[brummie]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

 

Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

 

At a certain point around 1992, the relationship stopped being "club and supporters" and became "club and customers".

 

We stopped being an integral part of the clubs, it became a business relationship, and that meant them treating us no different to the way M&S treat their shoppers. This whole thing was entirely of their making.

 

if people don't turn up week in week out to watch a load of offensive shit, then that's a direct result of them changing the relationship, with all the enormous price inflation that meant.

 

They can't have it both ways.

[Si]

One of my most hated things in football. Attendance banter is the f***ing pits

 

Shall we sing a song for you? Especially in the way it's hurting us at the minute people turning up regardless.

[BONTEMPI]

I think your crowds are freakishly good. There's plenty to admire in that.

 

However, I just know too many people who are of exactly the same opinion as me and have had enough.

 

This is the year we get relegated, I can tell. I saw it happen the last time and all the same signs are there.

 

I think you'll stay up. Can't see beyond these lot.

 

QPR

Sunderland

Burnley

[Wullie]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

 

Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

 

At a certain point around 1992, the relationship stopped being "club and supporters" and became "club and customers".

 

We stopped being an integral part of the clubs, it became a business relationship, and that meant them treating us no different to the way M&S treat their shoppers. This whole thing was entirely of their making.

 

if people don't turn up week in week out to watch a load of offensive shit, then that's a direct result of them changing the relationship, with all the enormous price inflation that meant.

 

They can't have it both ways.

 

Our lot do have it both ways, that's the problem.

[Guest neesy111]

I think your crowds are freakishly good. There's plenty to admire in that.

 

However, I just know too many people who are of exactly the same opinion as me and have had enough.

 

This is the year we get relegated, I can tell. I saw it happen the last time and all the same signs are there.

 

I think you'll stay up. Can't see beyond these lot.

 

QPR

Sunderland

Burnley

 

Leicester are starting to sink.

[midds]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

 

Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

 

At a certain point around 1992, the relationship stopped being "club and supporters" and became "club and customers".

 

We stopped being an integral part of the clubs, it became a business relationship, and that meant them treating us no different to the way M&S treat their shoppers. This whole thing was entirely of their making.

 

if people don't turn up week in week out to watch a load of offensive shit, then that's a direct result of them changing the relationship, with all the enormous price inflation that meant.

 

They can't have it both ways.

 

Newcastle's gate income for 2013 was circa £28m. The increase in the new tv deal was worth approximately the same, so in effect the club could play in an empty stadium and, financially, be no worse off than the previous year due to the hike in tv cash. In the past the fans mattered because a club couldn't run without the cash on the gate. If your gates crashed and fans boycotted for whatever reason the chairmen had to act or they couldn't pay the bills. Fans mattered, their opinions and feelings mattered.

 

Now that Sky pump in billions the folk who continue to turn up week after week don't matter any more. If gates dropped by 50% then the net effect is negligible to the accounts, the clubs can get by quite happily treating the loyal fans like shit because the chairmen are not totally reliant on gate income any more. Cunts like Ashley and Lerner can get away with it because the game's fundamentally changed. It's barely a sport any more it's just an exercise in making money. Fuck it. 

[Beren]

Feel for you, Brummie. And I have to say, I had no idea how bad things were at Villa before you shone the light on it through your posts.

 

Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

 

At a certain point around 1992, the relationship stopped being "club and supporters" and became "club and customers".

 

We stopped being an integral part of the clubs, it became a business relationship, and that meant them treating us no different to the way M&S treat their shoppers. This whole thing was entirely of their making.

 

if people don't turn up week in week out to watch a load of offensive shit, then that's a direct result of them changing the relationship, with all the enormous price inflation that meant.

 

They can't have it both ways.

 

Newcastle's gate income for 2013 was circa £28m. The increase in the new tv deal was worth approximately the same, so in effect the club could play in an empty stadium and, financially, be no worse off than the previous year due to the hike in tv cash. In the past the fans mattered because a club couldn't run without the cash on the gate. If your gates crashed and fans boycotted for whatever reason the chairmen had to act or they couldn't pay the bills. Fans mattered, their opinions and feelings mattered.

 

Now that Sky pump in billions the folk who continue to turn up week after week don't matter any more. If gates dropped by 50% then the net effect is negligible to the accounts, the clubs can get by quite happily treating the loyal fans like shit because the chairmen are not totally reliant on gate income any more. Cunts like Ashley and Lerner can get away with it because the game's fundamentally changed. It's barely a sport any more it's just an exercise in making money. Fuck it. 

 

I'm not sure that's true tbh. If fan attendances dropped significantly, I don't think TV revenues would be as high as they wouldn't want to broadcast empty stadiums across the world. Equally, less club tat would get sold domestically and abroad.

 

Getting fan buy-in, en masse, to a) believe the above and b) care enough about the club actually achieving something beyond the trophy of 8th place is a different story. A story which means that the fans effectively have as little power as you've described.

 

IMO.