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2014 FIFA World Cup Brasil™ - Germany win again


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The saddest thing is I think it could have been a respectable loss had Brazil not bought into their own hype and chased the game so arrogantly. Brazil should have been the one to be sitting 11 men behind the ball and only attacking on the counter.

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There's been a certain mystique about Brazilian football which dates back to the Pele era, and which has survived a few disappointments since. I think this defeat will have buried it.

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Tim Vickery made an excellent point though saying this might finally stop the Brazilian hierarchy resting on their laurels and talking about their 5 World Cup wins as an excuse not to do anything. Change needs to happen and this might be the catalyst for that.

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There's been a certain mystique about Brazilian football which dates back to the Pele era, and which has survived a few disappointments since. I think this defeat will have buried it.

Was thinking exactly the same.  There has been many times that countries have been beaten by Brazil before a ball has been kicked.  This result may put that to bed. They've had some of the very best sides in history...This one doesn't even deserve the same label as their predecessors.

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Guest Haris Vuckic

Said all along that this was the worst Brazilian side in many years - they proved it big time last night although all credit to the Germans for an excellent performance.

 

This defeat will haunt Brazilian football for many years and will have the same effect as the 7-1 hammering England took from the Hungarians at Wembley in the 1950s....we never again believed we were the world's best footballers and apart from a brief Indian summer between 1966 and 1970, the decline has been constant and irrefutable. In some ways, Brazil's humbling was worse because it is one thing to lose 7-1 in a friendly at home, but quite another to do it in a WC Semi-final with the whole world watching on live TV.....

 

Many reasons why Brazil is not the power it once was, but basically, they haven't got the raw talent anymore. Germany have developed youngsters and have a well-run league, unlike the over-priced and over-rated Circus that is the PL and their disciplined performance shows what is necessary to win at the top level now.

 

That was in Budapest . The corresponding fixture at Wembley finished 3-6...to Hungary... :thup:

 

 

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Scolari thinks he can stick it out until the 2018 World Cup :mackems:

 

What are your thoughts on Hiddink building on van Gaal's good work?

 

Very excited about the prospect of Hiddink taking over from Van Gaal. I think he will have us playing better football, and the experience these young players gained this month will be invaluable. Danny Blind for Russia 2018 though :anguish:

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Nigel de Jong back in training. If there's one player I absolutely hate seeing in the next match... :anguish:

 

Fingers crossed he makes it, because we have a much better chance with him sitting deep breaking up play. One of the best in the business in what he does.

 

Vlaar also a major doubt for tonight, and Van Persie and Janmaat have been ill the last couple of days.

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That's me supporting Argentina then. He may be an important player for the Dutch but I can't bring myself to support a thug.

 

There go our chances of reaching the final then.. :(

 

:lol:

 

It all depends on the fitness of your players. RVP has looked absolutely crack especially in the last game. And there will be plenty of attention on Robben too. Outside those two, there's little threat in this side. LVG is a massive factor though.

 

As a neutral, I think Germany-Argentina should make better viewing too.

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Found last night strangely uncomfortable viewing. In any other circumstances I'd love a 7-1 demolition, but in Brazil, during their world cup, at a semi final just seemed a tad cruel like. Actually felt quite sorry for the Brazilian people.

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It's quite obvious when you look back at events in history to be able to pinpoint why events occur.

 

I've looked into it and I think it's clear that Brazil just haven't been the same since Ron left.

 

However fair play to The Sun for getting him back here to finish his sentence.

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Guest firetotheworks

Love Flip trying to claw himself to moral high ground. "Well...well...we don't riot!!"

 

 

Only jesting of course, but it's still funny.

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Brazil deserved this for not playing joga bonito in a World Cup on their home soil!

 

But jokes aside it's ridiculous how the Brazilians made the game all about Neymar. You would have thought Neymar had just died last match with all the pre match shenanigans. The whole team wearing white caps with his name and holding up his shirt during the national anthem. Embarrassing really. He's 22years old and in his first World Cup ffs.

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