Guest Roman A. Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 He was shaky from the time he was at Chelsea. Thank god we got rid of him. He was ok going fwd but unreliable and always gives away possession in stupid ways. You lot need to look for someone else straight away haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 People can do what they like obviously, but it's a deeper problem at SJP, booing whenever we're losing, even when the performance is no worse than say the previous week winning. That pisses me off more than overpaid underachievers. i agree. I really don't see any point to booing players, espescially during the game. The players know when they haven't been good enough, and they don't need thousands of people screaming at them. If they play well, give them a cheer as they go off the field, if they don't preform, don't say anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 http://www.sportcartoons.co.uk/celestinebabayaro.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Pretty ridiculous for .com to say: Had he not turned out though, we would have really been hard up and presumably resorted to the sulky Zog to fill in at left back. Now if anyone deserved booing tonight..... then suggesting people booing Babayaro did it because he's black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 (sigh) If anyone wishes to read the .com report in its entirety, here it is: -------------------------------------------- Into December then and a month on from the Barrack Road implosion that was the Sheffield United game, things continue to straighten out in a vaguely pleasing manner. Scarves have been given out and although the queue for the Physio's room is bigger than the crowd goggling at Fenwicks window, good cheer and good fortune seem to have come home to roost. For parts of this game though it certainly wasn't the season of goodwill to all, with sections of the SJP crowd apparently under the impression that they'd turned up to see a pantomime and behaving accordingly. More of that later though... With the rare benefit of five full football free days, we began in decent fettle. Milner came close to testing the 'keeper and Martins looked determined to dig out a goal from somewhere - walking off at the interval having seen one saved, one just over the bar and one off the woodwork. By that point though we'd underdone our early good work and once again seemingly paid the penalty for failing to build on a deserved lead. Initially reticent, the visitors came into their own for the final 15 minutes of the first half, scored twice and could have had another couple as they suddenly cottoned on to the fact our defence was exposed and suffering from a touch of the Corporal Jones's. That was partly caused by the performance of Babayaro, who seemed to be operating in isolation and causing consternation as a consequence among Taylor and Ramage, who tried to adjust to cover only to find themselves lacking assistance from further up the field. While Butt continued in his recent lung-busting way (his standing has never been higher amongst the fans), N'Zogbia and Emre seemed averse to helping out, idling upfield with Sibierski and Martins as an emboldened Reading tried to set about us. The interval score was obviously of considerable concern, but those who booed Babayaro for his inactivity before the goal and then gave the whole team the bird as they trooped off should frankly be ashamed of themselves. Pathetic. The noticeable abuse of Babayaro continued after the break, but never to the extent reported in some quarters (there may have been a few feathers on the pitch, but I'm sure that they weren't accompanied by a vat of boiling tar). It was vaguely surprising to us that the defender was tempted away from the treatment table at all, but patently obvious that he wasn't fit. Had he not turned out though, we would have really been hard up and presumably resorted to the sulky Zog to fill in at left back. Now if anyone deserved booing tonight..... We're not excusing Babayaro's poor showing in the first half, but the evidence of our eyes shows it took him an hour to shake off his ring-rustiness before making a vital contribution in the closing stages. We just don't believe that slack-jawed arseholes in the paddocks shouting at him made the difference. We've been down this road before and as in previous times, we totally fail to understand what hounding our own players in this sort of hysterical knee-jerk manner is meant to achieve. What twisted gratification do people get from forking out to watch this stuff, then seemingly doing their best to undermine the team they profess to support? Most of those involved couldn't spell anarchy, let alone be motivated enough to try and provoke disorder and unsettle the current regime. It's no more than slack-jawed buffoonery - the malignant tendency. There's a fine line between a gut reaction and outburst when something goes wrong and a pre -meditated intention to slag players off, or indeed the whole team. Unfortunately we have a faction of "fans" at present who are ready to switch into the latter mode at the drop of a cross. Strange though that they become shy bairns when providing encouragement to the team is required - or staying in their seats until full time. Like the Bramble thing, we're not 100% sure that there's not a racially motivated angle to it all, with certain throwbacks taking advantage of the chance to indulge in some good old-fashioned baiting whenever one of our non-white players falls below a certain perceived standard. The atmosphere grew progressively more negative and a third Reading goal at that point would have doubtless had the "sack the board" faction clearing their throats and people nipping out to secure a prime spot outside the Milburn steps to get their mugs on Sky TV. If anything the Baba abuse actually had a positive effect on the crowd, as those right thinking onlookers with a sense of proportion and a memory slightly larger than the average guppy started abusing the booers. That then led to a counter protest of people actually cheering their own side on, which thankfully was taken up and within minutes had a right old din echoing round the place. Such was the turnaround that we scanned the crowd closely to see if that Vic Reeves' old assistant Les had appeared and was running through his spirit level and chives routine (don't worry if this means nothing to you...) Having never displayed the slightest talent for playing the game, we are only able to recount to you the two things that people who have worn the shirt tell us: There's no better crowd to get a lift from when things aren't going well than this one. It's a unique feeling and one which stays with you for a lifetime. There's no worse crowd to be when things are going badly than this one and they are on your back. The negativity is contagious and can simply destroy players. Work it out for yourselves. Back to the proper action and we got back on level terms thanks to a dubious penalty award, followed by a Sibierksi effort that was inexplicably ruled out. Some good positive support in the closing stages though made this an enjoyable evening and kept the interest levels up right until the end - Reading thankfully giving Leroy Lita (their cut-price version of Martins) only ten minutes in which to try and worry our defence. Emre's goal was a belter and let's face it - long, long overdue, sending everyone away in good heart and good cheer, the previous misadventures and recriminations of the evening forgotten about. We remain in a precarious position, but despite the injury blows we are starting to get back to the spirited team performances that characterized Roeder's time in charge last season - and the results are being recorded in a similar fashion. Nothing earth-shattering, but heading in the right direction. The rest of our December programme looks like a slog, with it virtually guaranteed that the wheels are going to come off somewhere when we meet a decent side on a good day, when we're under strength and under the weather. It could come at Stamford Bridge, The Reebok or even at St.James' on New Years Day. One bad result though won't undo the good work of recent weeks and shouldn't provoke hand-wringing and soul-searching. To truly appreciate and savour that great winning feeling that was evident tonight, you do have to put up with some rotten displays. People seem to have forgotten that. As the spirit, confidence and belief among the squad holds steady in the face of adversity, it's vital that those qualities don't ebb away from the terraces. If this team were sinking without trace then we couldn't argue against people vocally rubbishing them - even though we wouldn't be joining in. But if there's commitment and effort on display as we are currently seeing, we fail to accept or understand why that cannot be replicated by those who profess to "hate sunlun", but often seem to forget that they can show their affinity for Newcastle at times other than the 90 seconds after we score a goal. The away travellers among us tend to do the triumph in adversity thing quite well, it's the moaning magpie minnies closer to home who are the enemy within. As someone once said "support the Toon, it's your duty." Or stop in the house and boo the cat. Biffa ------------------------------- Pretty spot-on for the most part, me thinks. 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Rebellious Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Couldnt agree with this more and i take my hat off to Biffa for putting it so eloquently "We're not excusing Babayaro's poor showing in the first half, but the evidence of our eyes shows it took him an hour to shake off his ring-rustiness before making a vital contribution in the closing stages. We just don't believe that slack-jawed arseholes in the paddocks shouting at him made the difference. We've been down this road before and as in previous times, we just fail to understand what hounding our own players in this sort of hysterical knee-jerk manner is meant to achieve. What twisted gratification do people get from forking out to watch this stuff, then seemingly doing their best to undermine the team they profess to support? Most of those involved couldn't spell anarchy, let alone be motivated enough to try and provoke disorder and unsettle the current regime. It's no more than slack-jawed buffoonery. There's a fine line between a gut reaction and outburst when something goes wrong and a pre -meditated intention to slag players off, or indeed the whole team. Unfortunately we have a faction of "fans" at present who are ready to switching into the latter mode at the drop of a cross.. Strange though that they become shy bairns when providing encouragement to the team is required - or staying in their seats until full time. Like the Bramble thing, we're not 100% sure that there's not a racially motivated angle to it all, with certain throwbacks taking advantage of the chance to indulge in some good old-fashioned baiting whenever one of our non-white players falls below a certain standard." I have my suspicions too. To any man who booed Baba - You're a proper c***. I remember my first visit to SJP. I had to listen to fans calling Dyer and Titus black bastards all match. Not just one or two either. Surely if they wanted to slag players off they should just be called bastards. Is there a below average percent of ethnic minorities up there? As I have stated before growing up in Ipswich I used to watch the games and heard only encouragment towards players having bad games and it usually worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Wednesday night wasn't just a one off from Babayaro. Since he joined us, he has more often than not looked disinterested in the cause and his performances reflect this. As I said previously, I can understand why he was booed (though I did not join in). If some of you's are willing to accept a player in the side who has little or no heart, then you get what you deserve. Coming back from injury is one thing, but a total lack of effort and committment is something else entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 At the risk of getting a slap, he played reasonably well yesterday. Made one fantastic challenge half way up the pitch and no one was more visibly delighted when we scored. More of the same for me if he is going to be staying past january. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 .com reckon he's got 5 yellow cards and will be banned for Wednesday. God knows what our defence will look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Think he misses Watford but I'm not sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Think he misses Watford but I'm not sure I'm pretty sure it'll be Wednesday. There's no appeal process for a yellow card so the ban is effective immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 If you remember, Van Persie got his 5th yellow 6 days before playing us, yet he played our game because the ban doesn't take effect for 7 days, unlike a red which is immediate. I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 If you remember, Van Persie got his 5th yellow 6 days before playing us, yet he played our game because the ban doesn't take effect for 7 days, unlike a red which is immediate. I think. It's the other way round. If you appeal a red card then the ban is only effective after the appeal - assuming the appeal is turned down of course. nufc.com reckon he'll be missing on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Aye but it's not a red, it's a 5th yellow. There is no appeal, I'm just saying van Persie got his 5th yellow on the Sunday and 6 days later was allowed to play against us, as the ban takes effect 7 days after the 5th yellow. So 7 days after Saturday is obviously next Saturday, so Baba misses Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Credit where it's due, he's done canny in the last two matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Babayaro is a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Was miles better today, took down a ball and cleared it right infront of Shay, under pressure and did a great job. When he looks like he can be botherd, he is a decent enough player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Was miles better today, took down a ball and cleared it right infront of Shay, under pressure and did a great job. When he looks like he can be botherd, he is a decent enough player. Fucking hell, well if doing one thing right all day is "much improved".... He was dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Was miles better today, took down a ball and cleared it right infront of Shay, under pressure and did a great job. When he looks like he can be botherd, he is a decent enough player. :lol::lol::lol::lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Was miles better today, took down a ball and cleared it right infront of Shay, under pressure and did a great job. When he looks like he can be botherd, he is a decent enough player. What?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Was miles better today, took down a ball and cleared it right infront of Shay, under pressure and did a great job. When he looks like he can be botherd, he is a decent enough player. I'm not one of his big critics, but howay, he was not good today. He actually stopped and let them through once, had ramage not gotten across... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 IMO he was better, am not saying he is a great player but has been better!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo_11 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I thought straight away, in the first 5 minutes when his first touch led him out of play and the groans were heard, that he would have a poor game today. * held his hand up and Parker had to get back and challenge Francis * could have give a penalty away if he caught that Watford player in the second half when diving in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Morph Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I thought straight away, in the first 5 minutes when his first touch led him out of play and the groans were heard, that he would have a poor game today. * held his hand up and Parker had to get back and challenge Francis * could have give a penalty away if he caught that Watford player in the second half when diving in Sorry, I didn't see the tackle that you mention in your second point, but WTF? Thats harsh, getting on his back for that LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I thought straight away, in the first 5 minutes when his first touch led him out of play and the groans were heard, that he would have a poor game today. * held his hand up and Parker had to get back and challenge Francis * could have give a penalty away if he caught that Watford player in the second half when diving in Sorry, I didn't see the tackle that you mention in your second point, but WTF? Thats harsh, getting on his back for that LOL if you had seen it you would understand. Awful "tackle" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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