Ched Evans - Not Guilty

[Thomson Mouse]

If he is found to be not guilty, this will discourage any lass from coming forward over similar allegations. She's had enough s*** from people already, even when he was guilty.

 

He's not guilty, and only will be if he gets found guilty.

 

Rapists are disgusting and deserve everything they get, but I hope you're aware that less than 10% of accused rapists are proven guilty in court. I'm not suggesting that means 90% are innocent, but it's clear that crying rape is a huge problem, for two reasons:

 

1. Innocent people are being accused of rape and having their lives destroyed.

 

2. Actual rape victims have to face the 'cry rape' stigma because of those who do 'cry rape'.

 

In my opinion, the penalty for crying rape needs stiffening (although I acknowledge that the majority of cases will end not-guilty both ways on lack of evidence).

 

The clear-up rate for burglaries is similar, about 10% as well. It's a real problem, all these people pretending they've been burgled. Throw away the key I say.

 

[BlueStar]

In terms of repercussions from false allegations, I don't think the allegations came from the alleged victim in the first place, did they? Might be wrong, but I thought she reported that she woke up semi-naked in a puddle of urine, the police investigated and found evidence like the text messages and CCTV. Based on what they uncovered during the investigation, it was the police that made an allegation of rape and decided to prosecute.

[Troll]

In terms of repercussions from false allegations, I don't think the allegations came from the alleged victim in the first place, did they? Might be wrong, but I thought she reported that she woke up semi-naked in a puddle of urine, the police investigated and found evidence like the text messages and CCTV. Based on what they uncovered during the investigation, it was the police that made an allegation of rape and decided to prosecute.

 

They should all be arrested then.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How fucking dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and fuck yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

[Disco]

what a melt.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

Noodles is Noodles.

 

His views on most things are pretty disgusting

 

I was going to send a sensible reply, but looking at your other posts, I'd be wasting my time. Instead. A couple of things:

 

1. I don't know who Noodles is. (It certainly isn't me).

 

2. Please quote anything that I have said that is 'disgusting'.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

what a melt.

 

Great value post. Cock.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

For general info, although my last couple of posts might seem slightly angry, it's only because I don't take kindly to being called a sexist.

 

I'm not really some sort of raging cock, I do enjoy debating here. Really.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Oh dear...

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How fucking dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and fuck yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Technically women can't rape a man (or indeeed another woman)

[Guest Phillipealbert]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Technically women can't rape a man (or indeeed another woman)

 

Technically you are correct. A women can only commit a serious sexual assault.

 

Although men can be (and are) rape victims.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Oh dear...

 

Great argument, once again.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Oh dear...

 

Great argument, once again.

 

I'll respond to your lunacy when I'm not in work. Lunatic.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Oh dear...

 

Great argument, once again.

 

I'll respond to your lunacy when I'm not in work. Lunatic.

 

Listen, don't bother. This is getting tedious, and I'm sure the rest of N-O don't want to read a thread full of personal insults, so I'm going to step away and leave you to it.

 

Have fun, and no hard feelings!

[Deuce]

Phillipealbert seems to have a bit of a problem with women, like. Wreaking lingering resentment in most posts. Not all, but those posts that are not are tranished by those that do and it's not fair on the posts that aren't entirely sweeping statements.

 

Crying rape, ffs. Have a word with yourself.

 

How f***ing dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'.

 

Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob.

 

I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying.

 

Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

 

I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and f*** yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said.

 

Oh dear...

 

Great argument, once again.

 

I'll respond to your lunacy when I'm not in work. Lunatic.

 

Listen, don't bother. This is getting tedious, and I'm sure the rest of N-O don't want to read a thread full of personal insults, so I'm going to step away and leave you to it.

 

Have fun, and no hard feelings!

 

No we pretty much thrive on that.

[thomas]

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Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig.

[...]

I mean, I pretty much agree with this. There are crimes where merely being publicly accused can exact a very heavy social punishment far before any criminal proceedings begin and establishment of guilt is made.

[Hanshithispantz]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

 

Seriously - I am not noodles.

[Deuce]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

 

Seriously - I am not noodles.

 

Something I'd expect to hear from noodles.

[Kaizero]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

 

Seriously - I am not noodles.

 

Something I'd expect to hear from noodles.

 

[Guest Phillipealbert]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

 

Seriously - I am not noodles.

 

Something I'd expect to hear from noodles.

 

Although I really am not Noodles, would it make you feel better if I pretended to be him?

[Deuce]

It's probably best to actually clear up whether Albert is Noodles or not lik.

 

Seriously - I am not noodles.

 

Something I'd expect to hear from noodles.

 

Although I really am not Noodles, would it make you feel better if I pretended to be him?

 

Nah, noodles was a twat.

[Guest Phillipealbert]

They used to say about to catch a predator that any programme that made you feel sympathy for peadophiles was doing something wrong. That's how Albert made me feel about Branko.

 

I've made you feel that Branko is a nonce?

[Hanshithispantz]

They used to say about to catch a predator that any programme that made you feel sympathy for peadophiles was doing something wrong. That's how Albert made me feel about Branko.

[mozy]

This whole case was questionnable as fuck from the start.